'No one believes we do this to kids': Will Congress end school lunch shaming?

[Spectral]

Presumably because parents want control over their children's diets and don't like paying for things they aren't using.

We don't generally seem to be in the business of caring whether people want to subsidize spending at schools. This is a funky exception.

[A dot Ham]

I'm confused. The "shaming" is that kids try to buy food without knowing that their lunch account is insufficient and can't. So what would actually be the solution outside of memes like crowdfunding?

I mean, the reasonable solution is to try to charge them BEFORE handing them food, but this article makes it sound like "Republicans" "agree" that just expanding the free lunch program to everyone (or letting them eat food off social media bucks, same thing) would be the answer, which is something I doubt they'd go for because muh creeping socialism.

I mean, I got reduced lunches for most of my childhood and occasionally I'd run out of money and eat a PB sandwich. It wasn't shameful, everyone's parents forgot sometimes or their kid forgot to tell them. These people overreacting about this incredibly minor problem are hilarious.

The "reasonable" solution is that if you are going to force someone to be somewhere more than 8 hours a day, you should also feed them.

If your job sends you to a conference for a day they are required (by federal law) to pay you per diem.

Likewise, if you are going to force a child to be somewhere to learn (all day) they should also be provided a meal.

Lets ignore for a second, that in some cases the meal the child cannot pay for is often thrown out. But then they are required to work for... that meal... they didn't actually get to eat, to teach them a lesson about wasting? If that isn't ass backwards thinking I don't know what is.

Face value... that's child labor... plain and simple. Whether you think working for that meal... by scrubbing tables or picking up trash etc is a good idea. The kid should at the very least be able to consume said meal.

[Queen of Hamsters]

It's the social clime you get when those without are stamped as being "lazy leeches". Generations have fostered that attitude, so thinking it'll go away any time soon, especially when seeing how frantically some not-haves will defend the 1%, is too optimistic.

There won't ever be a "banish on poverty", the ones having enjoy their status way too much. Even wanting increased minimum wages as costs of living rises is labeled as "seeking welfare"...

[Sergar]

The "reasonable" solution is that if you are going to force someone to be somewhere more than 8 hours a day, you should also feed them.

If your job sends you to a conference for a day they are required (by federal law) to pay you per diem.

Likewise, if you are going to force a child to be somewhere to learn (all day) they should also be provided a meal.

They are. Breakfast and a cold lunch. Hot lunch is extra.

[A dot Ham]

They are. Breakfast and a cold lunch. Hot lunch is extra.

Entrance into said program is two fold.

(1) You have to qualify and apply

(2) You are on a waiting list as there are not enough spots for all the kids that have a need

[Sergar]

Yeah, it was made permanent. It doesn't include every child getting a free breakfast. So, again, what area feeds all children for free at breakfast? That was the original claim, all kids get a free breakfast. It's not true.

You are technically right, but the school breakfast is ridiculously common and free is easy to qualify for.

https://www.fns.usda.gov/sites/defau...Pfactsheet.pdf

"In Fiscal Year 2012 over 12.9 million children participated every day. Of those, over 10.1 million received their meals free or at a reduced‐price."

[Easo]

Schools should have free lunch, preferably hot, for everyone.
P.S.
Time to receive some hate.

[Stormspark]

Back when I was in school I just brought my own lunch. And I kept a few dollars in reserve just in case they had pizza or burgers or something I liked. There wasn't any standardized lunch...I had whatever I brought from home, and any additional stuff I got there was bought individually. If I wanted a piece of pizza I got a piece of pizza. If I wanted a burger I got a burger.

[zoefschildpad]

This whole thread reads like it's from another planet. I don't understand how anyone could oppose feeding children. They can't help their parents being poor, and food is not a luxury.
Also why is anyone in a first world country so poor that they can't afford food?
Why are there hot lunches in schools?
And wtf is wrong with a cheese sandwich?

[Tennis]

Thank you Tennisace for your weekly Nation bashing thread.

Please elaborate.
I've seen this story featured over the past few days.

[Video Games]

I really do feel sorry for those kids. If they're too poor to even get school lunch they probably don't have a very good home in the first place.

[Garnier Fructis]

I hesitate to enter threads like this, because it's guaranteed to contain people with approximately 0 humanity. And I wasn't not-disappointed.

[Stormspark]

I hesitate to enter threads like this, because it's guaranteed to contain people with approximately 0 humanity. And I wasn't not-disappointed.

As Carlin said, all these people are highly supportive of the un-born. But once you're born, screw you, you're on your own. Until you reach military age.

[Eon Drache]

Okay, then he doesn't qualify for it I guess. We've had the free/reduced lunch/breakfast program in the U.S since the 60's, whether you believe they do it or not.

I can believe from my personal experience graduating in 2008 that breakfast was NOT free at my HS. Nor was lunch. In a town that actually had 0 fast food places, too.

[Exeris]

The kids get to school before school starts, and are able to go to the cafeteria and get (usually) some pop-tarts and a container of orange juice (or grape apple whatever), or a powerbar... Sometimes its even a hot breakfast, like a piece of breakfast pizza.

..........

[Deleted]

You know what was great about school lunches when I was a kid? The fact I didn't have to worry about having to pay for them. School lunches, free for everyone, was pretty great.

When was that? The only free lunches across the board I can think of was from the last government with the lib dems.

[xChurch]

Sooo I guess just providing kids free lunches it out of the question?

[melodramocracy]

Old enough to recall simply not having a cafeteria at all at school. You either brown bagged it, or you weren't eating.

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Sooo I guess just providing kids free lunches it out of the question?

Schools have more important things to spend money on. Like sprawling sports fields:

[Better]

How is payment an issue? They'd give us the hot lunch schedule every two weeks with a special envelope and our parents just paid for all of the days we wanted hot lunch for all at once.

Where I went to school, after elementary we just had a student ID number, and you'd punch that in to pay for it with money from your account. As far as I recall there was no way to check balance other than when you were paying for lunch, and to add more you had to bring money at that time. I actually forgot to get money all the time, and I honestly don't even remember them giving me a shittier lunch, I'm fairly sure I got nothing when I didn't have money. Usually had to bum food from friends, and repay them if they ever forgot.

[Deleted]

http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/15/news...-story-summary

This is despicable. Very disappointed that this wasn't a major issue in the recent elections.

When I was in school in the 90's, there was no free lunch. We had to pay for it. There wasn't anyone giving us anything. I mean I think it's stupid to throw food away, and I would've loved free food, nothing against that, but this isn't the end of the world. Tell your parents to give you some cash for fuck's sake. If they don't have money for food, tell them to stop wasting it on drugs. If your parents are such pieces of shit, try to reach out and get child services, or whatever it's called, to take care of this or something. We were poor when I grew up, and I always had food in school.