Trump Revealed Classified Information to Russian Foreign Minister - WashPo

[nacixems]

The liberals on mmo-champ are going off the rails again over mere allegations by unnamed sources.

This is 80% of the posts, in a nut shell.

[alexw]

"There’s nothing that the president takes more seriously than the security of the American people. The story that came out tonight, as reported, is false. The president and the foreign minister reviewed a range of common threats to our two countries, including threats to civil aviation. At no time — at no time — were intelligence sources or methods discussed. And the president did not disclose any military operations that were not already publicly known. Two other senior officials who were present, including the secretary of state, remember it being the same way and have said so. Their on-the-record accounts should outweigh those of anonymous sources. And I was in the room. It didn’t happen."

Trump just tweeted what Mick said yesterday. Hot air and smoke smell so good when this forum gets hype over nothing.

So where is his denial that he did not share extremely sensitive top secret clearance information with the Russian ambassador? Can you please point that out to me, where he said that?

[Skroe]

He certainly made statements that were meant to mislead and get people to believe things that were not true. By doing that he's begun the process of selling out his soul to Trump.

Weeks and months of that? We would consider him no different than Sean Spicer.

Across the decades... maybe across history, it is a recurring theme: those who attempt to control or moderate a would be authoritarian figure invariably end up being controlled by that figure.

It never works and the "well maybe Mattis and Tillerson will be adults in the room" line was just the same repackaged bullshit that always fails.

And as a matter of principle, in the United States of America, if we have to do that, we've done something dreadfully wrong.

[GennGreymane]

Seems Trump has confirmed it?

[Zolor]

This is 80% of the posts, in a nut shell.

But Trump confirmed on Twitter?

What now?

I think his people are just nuts, like he is

[LordKain]

The pro-trump people trying to defend this.....so hilarious and sad at the same time.

[WoWGoneBad]

If the American people let him do that, they sure are a nation of cucks. This is the first and last time I will be using that word, but it's literally the best word to describe them. If you are willing to sit idly and watch that clown fuck your country up - it's the proper word for it.

See here is the problem with this country as it stands. The 'People' who live in thos country have ZERO power other than votes. It is the "Republic" of Government that has the true power. And the Republicans who now control the country COMPLETELY are going to let this shitshow keep rolling so long as it lets them keep pushing their civil war against Democrats until they destroy everything and get all they wanted done.

NO Republican is going to get enough headway to get this (please find a good enough word for stupid for me) man out of office, because they can now get all they have been wanting for the past 30-50 years or so completed. And in NO FUCKING Way am I saying Democrats are any better. All of the Countries politicians have blood on their hands for getting this (again please find a good enough word for stupid for me) man into office.

Impeachment will never happen and it is sad that I can say that with almost complete certainty.

[GennGreymane]

Across the decades... maybe across history, it is a recurring theme: those who attempt to control or moderate a would be authoritarian figure invariably end up being controlled by that figure.

It never works and the "well maybe Mattis and Tillerson will be adults in the room" line was just the same repackaged bullshit that always fails.

And as a matter of principle, in the United States of America, if we have to do that, we've done something dreadfully wrong.

Its also a shitty point and shows how little faith they have in someone.

I also notice it is his supporters who say this..... (not claiming the person you are quoting is a supporter)

Most of the people have no fucking idea whats going on in the heads of Trumps cabinet, some may have never been heard of before being put in the cabinet. Some probably just stick to their specific job. There job is not to control Trump and you have other people going for the same influence.

Too many ppl watch dumb TV shows like house of cards and game of thrones and see reality in it some how when it comes to politics. Sure, a show like house of cards can be based on reality, but its a script, its in its own universe, only some characters are meant to have the cogs moving in their heads and thus does not truely reflect what reality can be.

[Skroe]

This is 80% of the posts, in a nut shell.

Hey remember when an unnamed source named "Deep Throat" brought down a President last time? And how Deep Throat wasn't known for 40 years until it turned out to be FBI Deputy Director Mark Felt?

Be careful with what you wish for when you want names named. Leaking is very rarely some low level 30 year old guy trying to be a hero. It's almost always an official by a faction or interest (like out of a Senators office), or someone senior and in the know.

I wouldn't be surprised if one of the people that is an anonymous source for the Post (though probably not the originator) is McMaster or Dina Powell. Or somebody else senior on the NSC staff.

That is _exactly_ how this works. The Bradley Manning and Edward Snowdens of the world are the exception. The General Cartwrights of the world are the rule.

[HeyGuysHello]

Trump already confirmed the story, you're too late.

You guys need to learn how to read. This is tiring.

Everyone, including Trump's tweets say it was about terrorism and civil airlines.
Even if the information was classified, which everyone that isn't anonymous has said it wasn't thus far, Executive Order 13526 protects his right to declassify terrorist information on his own whim.

All you're going to see is the story disappear with a bunch of sad, boring "Well remember when he was accused of" in the aftermath for future events, and the media using reactionary inbreds to start talking about this non-story over all the other crap happening now. Seth Rich is a better story right now and I'm pretty sure it's all tinfoil.

[Deleted]

Soo here is a thing. I will not defend his stupidity for sharing Super Secret information( most of our OWN Intelligence agencies did not have this information), but.... If the WH staffer kept their mouth shut, NO ONE not even ISIS (who now knows who the spy in their midst is) would know he said anything.

But now with it being TOP NEWS all over the world.... the entire media and social media agencies just gave away that information TO ISIS.

This is not about ISIS at all. Russia is not a friend/ally/pal/mother in law of the West and Trump gave away intel collected by actual allies, who don't consider Russia to be a friend/ally/pal/mother in law. It's a breach of confidence, it's Kyle behaving like Cartman.

[JohnBrown1917]

You guys need to learn how to read. This is tiring.

Everyone, including Trump's tweets say it was about terrorism and civil airlines.
Even if the information was classified, which everyone that isn't anonymous has said it wasn't thus far, Executive Order 13526 protects his right to declassify terrorist information on his own whim.
.

So he did do it.

[Deleted]

Because that might help Russia bomb or otherwise work against ISIS more effectively. OH THE HORROR, how could he do this HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE thing! Right, exceptional nazionalist?

If Russians drop bomb on asset that provided this information then yeah i could be really bad, thats kinda the point here clearly Russia doesn't have working relation with country that this intel came from and for Trump to just tell anything about this to Russians put people at risk.

[GennGreymane]

Just to add

Looks like people claim this was unfounded

They continue to do so

Except Trump has confirmed it

However Trump is claiming it was something he was allowed to do and stuff that was not that important

Except people who support him (or will claim to be super duper independent and would never support him, but the libs turned them off because tumblr exists even though they have no political influence or power) seem to still think its totally made up.

[HeyGuysHello]

So he did do it.

Again, you're a terrible reader.

[NYC17]

Again, you're a terrible reader.

Or, the shit you are writing isn't worth reading.

[Shadowferal]

Trump: I have 'absolute right' to share facts with Russia
Trump’s comments appeared to acknowledge reports Monday that he disclosed highly classified intelligence information to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador during an Oval Office meeting last week — contradicting carefully worded denials issued by his own White House. The move was met with condemnation from Democrats, and some Republicans, on Capitol Hill, who said the revelation could jeopardize intelligence sources on the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and make allies more reluctant to share intelligence with the U.S.

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Meanwhile, WH Staff is feeling a tad frustrated with the Orange Skull

[Stormspark]

Or, the shit you are writing isn't worth reading.

He's going to be in prison for treason, and they'll still be saying "but her eeeeeeeeeeeeemails".

[GennGreymane]

Just to reiterate for the "independents" (before skroe has a heart attack)

Source claims it

People say this is unfounded

Trump confirms it

Trump states it was not important info and would have been shared anyway (this should be our debate)

People say this is unfounded

Same people believed Pizzagate

[HeyGuysHello]

Or, the shit you are writing isn't worth reading.

If that's what you feel. No need to be disingenuous about how much it sucks that nothing is going to happen. You guys can circlejerk over non-news all you want, no need to even respond to me.