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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakloh View Post
    Not all refugees
    white people rape too
    different culture
    the town failed to integrate them into western society
    Why bring race into it? ALL races rape too. It is a spot on the human race that some people of all colors do that.

    Also, the town did not fail to integrate them, they failed to integrate to their new town. It isn't upon those who already live somewhere to force integration on newcomers. It is those seeking a new place to live to assimilate to their new environs.
    when all else fails, read the STICKIES.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rym View Post
    It is no other problem when "aryan germans" herass woman at the oktoberfest. It happens all the time no matter what skin color people have.

    Oh, and i am from germany. And most rapes are done by germans in germany.



    What a bullshit. Crimes happen no matter where people come from. In special the right wing fanatics love to talk about rape while the nazis raped more european woman than any other immigrants ever would do.
    They don't even get the Nazi propaganda correct-if someone raped Germans in the 20th century, it's not Muslims-it's the dudes ordering agitprop toward Muslims...(in addition to widespread sexual abuse by occupation troops during both world wars)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurin View Post
    I have never once seen anyone defending a rapist, not once. Well, not true, I often see it in muslim countries.
    Of course they don't defend rapist. They say it's not rape, DUH !

    Of course she says it's rape, she is an ugly female SJW !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurin View Post
    What? Muslim women where the victims at Köln you say? And also in the rapes in Norway?
    What part of ''majority'' you do not understand ? I have a startling info for you : when you ask for actual crimes, people either use ''they cover it up'' or bring a small number of cases over and over. While Koln was a disgrace (if not really prosecutable because of the current German laws not covering this as sexual assault), this is not exactly what RT try to depict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurin View Post
    What? Muslim women where the victims at Köln you say? And also in the rapes in Norway?

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    What kind of stupid bullshit are you peddling?
    That the narrative ''dangerous foreigners are raping German women'' is pushed by a country that is not exactly blameless in this very specific question (even if the numbers have been blown out of proportion by Nazis)
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    RT? Stopped reading right there. Take your propaganda site somewhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurin View Post
    Well, to you anyone not agreeing with you is a right wing fanatic.
    Not at all. That doesnt change the fact this is a RT quoting propaganda thread with the right wing forum readers jumping on the disinformation train.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thurin View Post
    Maybe left wing loonies like you should keep their mouth shut as well then by that trail of thought, since the most rapes where committed by filthy Russian communists.
    I am not left wing. I am a german conservative. But seems your stereotypes need me to be left. And i actually dont know who had the "high score" on rapes, which is not just really idiotic to invoke, but also doesnt change the fact that "white aryan" nazis raped thousands of victims during 2nd world war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurin View Post
    Well, to you anyone not agreeing with you is a right wing fanatic. Maybe left wing loonies like you should keep their mouth shut as well then by that trail of thought, since the most rapes where committed by filthy Russian communists.

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    Maybe Germans still are scarred from when 2 million German women where raped by Russian communists?
    That number is a bit high, but yeah, if someone is ill placed to talk about Germans being raped...it's probably the state that still says ''it was completely consensual/it was made up'

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    Quote Originally Posted by rym View Post
    I am not left wing. I am a german conservative. But seems your stereotypes need me to be left. And i actually dont know who had the "high score" on rapes, which is not just really idiotic to invoke, but also doesnt change the fact that "white aryan" nazis raped thousands of victims during 2nd world war.
    You're either centrist or you're conservative and right-wing. You can't be centrist and conservative as you claim you are, conservatism is a right-wing ideology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurin View Post
    Köln should be a startling reminder of what government officials will do not to lose face, or jeopardize their political power. You have the same cover ups in Swedish newspapers, and the government. When shit happens in bathhouses, festivals etc etc. When I link official newspapers from Norway that actually take the debate, you have people like Rym that yells : "OMG zis is ze right wing propaganda yaaaa"

    Taking the debate and talking freely, criticizing religion and the powerful used to be a left wing virtue, now they abhor it.

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    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...as-red-6214836
    Yeah, dude, I'm not the one saying that this did not happen, I'm saying that Russia who is still denying it is incredibly ill placed to make an agitprop campaign over far less serious events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurin View Post
    You opened that can of worms, and I replied. You are trying to silence the right wingers discussing current topics by guilt tripping them for what a national socialists did 70 years ago. BUT MUH NAZI HERRING!!11
    He was talking about right wing fanatics though...
    Quote Originally Posted by ash
    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    People need to excuse their hate, that's why.
    Pretty much this. The usual, thick as pigshit racists have eventually worked it out that being perceived as a racist is not too cool anymore. So they promote articles like this, ignore statistics and use it to justify their bigotry to others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    That's not true, you can vote for authoritarians and turn the country backwards, opting out of all treaties and fuck everything over.
    I think someone already did vote for such a person....



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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurin View Post
    Everything is right wing fanatics to him...if you fart to the right, you are a right wing fanatic to him.
    Cool, do me next, what do i think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dkwhyevernot View Post
    Pretty much this. The usual, thick as pigshit racists have eventually worked it out that being perceived as a racist is not too cool anymore. So they promote articles like this, ignore statistics and use it to justify their bigotry to others.
    That's one of the oldest concepts there is. Paint your enemy as inhuman and your soldiers have less remorse of kililng them.
    Quote Originally Posted by ash
    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurin View Post
    You opened that can of worms, and I replied. You are trying to silence the right wingers discussing current topics by guilt tripping them for what a national socialists did 70 years ago. BUT MUH NAZI HERRING!!11
    What you call socialist. And what you call left. Right wing extremists even see centrists and liberals as lefts.

    But i am not left. I am not right. I actually vote for a conservative party my whole life. My family does. My grandfather was a politician working for the CSU.

    For some reason, the alt right movement and the trumpkins would like to be called "conservative", while they infact just are nationalists. And while there is nothing conservative about them. They dont value the liberal democracy america is about. They dont value the tradition to help those who seek immigration, which is one of the american basics. They betray their own grandfathers who immigrated themself.

    The alt right and the trumpkins are not conservative. They are neo-right autocratic revolutioners whose ideology is based ob bigotry, protectionism and racism, and nothing else, born from the hands of a russian tyrant. They just pretend to be conservative, while they are about to become traitors for everything america is about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rym View Post
    What you call socialist. And what you call left. Right wing extremists even see centrists and liberals as lefts.

    But i am not left. I am not right. I actually vote for a conservative party my whole life. My family does. My grandfather was a politician working for the CSU.

    For some reason, the alt right movement and the trumpkins would like to be called "conservative", while they infact just are nationalists. And while there is nothing conservative about them. They dont value the liberal democracy america is about. They dont value the tradition to help those who seek immigration, which is one of the american basics.
    Time for round 2 of "Guess who doesn't know what conservatism entails".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurin View Post
    I vote for socialist party, anti EU, for a strong national state.
    Yeah, we germans voted for that kind of party in 1933. Let me give you the tip it didnt work out very well.

    The new incarnation of that "party" just replaces jews by muslims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freighter View Post
    Time for round 2 of "Guess who doesn't know what conservatism entails".
    You could always explain it to us, as i don't knows what you're trying to say here.
    Quote Originally Posted by ash
    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    exchange migrants with jews in the title. and u are a 1a nazi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freighter View Post
    You're either centrist or you're conservative and right-wing. You can't be centrist and conservative as you claim you are, conservatism is a right-wing ideology.
    Its not, you can be conservative and left-wing on economics, we got a party like that here. Its just far more common for conservatives to also be liberal on the economic scale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurin View Post
    Meanwhile, We have been living in a social democracy with ha strong national identity since long before the war. We fought the Nazis, so I guess we have nothing to be ashamed of. You really only have one view of nationalism?
    No, i strongly believe there is healthy nationalism, as like being part of a group with the same traditions. The problem is just that nationalism also adresses the bad habits of people, as like hating other nations, skin colors or religions. Which is an obvious development, as the current neo nationalists follow the same scheme. Racism and xenophobia are always following nationalism. Also a big focus on military and warfare. And really, in a world where nuclear weapons are existent, that is nothing to aim for.

    We need to live in peace, and not lock up in our nations, not to erect walls and large armies, and should not live in fear an autocratic leader could push the button just because another leader is annoying him.

    Globalism and strong country unions (as like the european union) are the solution for that. And surely not protectionism and building walls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurin View Post
    Yeah but see. You again tried to affiliate me with Nazis. Because I vote for a socialist party with a national identity. This is not 1933 xD
    I do not see a "you" in that post, why do you insist on applying it to yourself, personally?
    Why do you assume that doing so works to refute his arguments?
    All you do is making yourself look bad with an inversed ad hominem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    You could always explain it to us, as i don't knows what you're trying to say here.
    Rym has said that conservatives who don't follow the same ideas that he does aren't conservatives in the past. He thinks conservatism is all about maintaining status quo.

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