Why are so many against skimpier armor?

[derpkitteh]

What about warriors, who have a spec based around being berserkers? Many would say that the warrior class fantasy has a lot to deal with that sort of thing. Legion only further pushing that.

none of the skimp plate is designed like sonya's is. it's all ornamental bikinis meant to be sexy.

sonya's armor isn't meant to be sexy, neither is demon hunters. it's not made with sexiness in mind. these old plate sets are.

[Deleted]

I didn't know I'm a sexist, but you can pin me however you like since it's of no importance to me how you feel.

I didn't say "I feel like you're sexist". I pointed out blatantly sexist statements you made.

So while you're clearly trying to justify your words by claiming it's my opinion but objectively it appears that you have no issues saying sexist shit.

I'm gunna stop this conversation because 1. I don't feel comfortable talking to someone who apparently has no issues making sexist statements and 2. It's going to derail the thread.

[Felfaadaern Darkterror]

1. Not everyone is against it.
2. People have different tastes - just skim through the transmog threads to see how different!

[Joey Ray III]

I believe many people would be less against skimpy if it was actually designed well. I mean look at this from couple pages back: http://i.imgur.com/3UccUlD.jpg
even ignoring the lo-fi, this is just terrible.

personally I'm all for it. I'm all for swaggy outfits that got nothing to do with actual combat armor in general. I love the ridiculousness of it but I also understand why people more on the purist side would be totally against it (especially in WoW).

[Pantalaimon]

But armored bikini makes perfect sense?


Because it makes literally ZERO sense even in fantasy setting.

Did you just ignore what the OP said about the game as a whole not making sense?

[blehmeh]

Because female pandas + slutmog = eye poison

But even if it's like a Belf or Nelf and they're all walking around in thongs, it's highly immersion breaking for me. My brain can't help but think "12 year old behind the wheel", and in a real battle they would be torn to pieces, armor does exist for a reason.

As for demon hunters, I think it mostly works due to just the way the classes lore is, but once it gets down to near naked is when it just looks ridiculous. And its just so common these days. I think armor shouldn't be afraid to be slightly revealing, but there's a line that tends to get crossed a bit too often. But seriously, people, if you want to look at booty, there's plenty of other places online to do it.

[Deleted]

Once more, thats implying that women cannot like skimpy armor.

No, it isnt, as i included females in my argument.

Or do you mean for female characters of female players?

Yes, i am sure there are. People like different things.

[LaserChild9]

Another common argument is the all to common "You're just immature if you want sexy armor".

I wouldn't say they were immature, I would assume they were single, lonely or a pervert. There are magazines for that kind of feeling.

Warcraft is more or less defined by rule of cool. Saying a plate-kini is any more immature than wearing the glowing bones of a dragon is asanine. They are both their own kind of immature, and thats fine. Thats what the setting is all about. Its a setting where people go around wielding giant swords bigger than they are with edgy backstories like "This sword drank the darkness of an evil god" or "These swords are from the remnants of a vampiric soul eating rune blade".

If dragons were real and you could kill one, its quite possible that you could use their bones/scales to create armour, said bones could also glow through the use of magic which is also another theme in wow. Now, I know that Dragons aren't real, but be honest, if they were, do you think you could kill one while you were wearing only a bikini. Huge swords? Again, Magic.

So why are so many against skimpy armor? Seems even blizzard is, which is a bit ironic given how many of their designs are blatantly pandering especially when it comes to showing off men.

Lets ask the opposite, why do so many want skimpy outfits? Its a game, if you are horny put some porn on. What does it bring to a game for you to see your character scantily clad?

[Queen of Hamsters]

I didn't say "I feel like you're sexist". I pointed out blatantly sexist statements you made.

So while you're clearly trying to justify your words by claiming it's my opinion but objectively it appears that you have no issues saying sexist shit.

I'm gunna stop this conversation because 1. I don't feel comfortable talking to someone who apparently has no issues making sexist statements and 2. It's going to derail the thread.

Stating a fact of certain cultures currently and historically in this world in relation to what others brought up =/= making sexist statements.
Just sayin'.

[Toppy]

I wouldn't say they were immature, I would assume they were single, lonely or a pervert. There are magazines for that kind of feeling.



If dragons were real and you could kill one, its quite possible that you could use their bones/scales to create armour, said bones could also glow through the use of magic which is also another theme in wow. Now, I know that Dragons aren't real, but be honest, if they were, do you think you could kill one while you were wearing only a bikini. Huge swords? Again, Magic.



Lets ask the opposite, why do so many want skimpy outfits? Its a game, if you are horny put some porn on. What does it bring to a game for you to see your character scantily clad?

A part of the problem with the bigger armors is that they'd simply be to cumbersome to even move in. Likewise if you're going to argue a dragon, I dont see how you're supposed to fight one in either plate armor or bikini. Either way the dragon is twenty times your size. I dont know how that argument could be any worse.

That said, I find skimpy armor visually appealing. Not just because its sexy. I find many of WoW's full plate armor to be vastly overblown and kinda goofy looking.

Having options is not a bad thing, and skimpy armor has fit the setting for ages.

[Queen of Hamsters]

I believe many people would be less against skimpy if it was actually designed well. I mean look at this from couple pages back: http://i.imgur.com/3UccUlD.jpg
even ignoring the lo-fi, this is just terrible.

personally I'm all for it. I'm all for swaggy outfits that got nothing to do with actual combat armor in general. I love the ridiculousness of it but I also understand why people more on the purist side would be totally against it (especially in WoW).

I agree, those look beyond terrible... Even moreso nowadays on the new character models.
But then again, someone is bound to find them good-looking so if they want to dress their characters like that, it's fine by me.

I've seen quite the revealing armor combos on Demon Hunters, using no horns, no tats which basically makes them look like very lightly dressed blood elves of any class until you see their class tags. <.<

[Deleted]

Stating a fact of certain cultures currently and historically in this world in relation to what others brought up =/= making sexist statements.
Just sayin'.

The "fact" that you're stating is that most people who are apparently complaining about this are men and most of those men are anti-feminists. Yet you provide no evidence to support this fact and are instead basing it upon your own opinion.

[Deleted]

Oh yes, miss Blood Knight, that Bikini is perfectly functional against a sword to the gut. In fact you should tell your brother there to get with the times.

Maybe you do not notice but the male armor is also a fantasy armor, and if it was "real" it would it be in the same ridiculously class of armor as the female armor.

Totaly lack of head protection, the upper arms exposed, upper legs only protected by leather, shoulder plates who have spikes who make a "glancing blow" a solid hit insted.

Its noting wrong with ridiculously fantasy armor as long its in a fantasy setting....

[Deleted]

If modding was legal in WoW, there surely could be a solution for people who like skimpy armor.

[neocount]

I've occasionally seen it as a topic on the general forum: players wanting a few more options for skimpy armor. Every time there is a large amount of opposition against it. But why?

The most common argument I've seen is that it isn't realistic. That for example, a Warrior isn't going to go to a fight showing off their legs and middriff. This one I've understood the least since Warcraft is pretty much defined by unrealistic weapons and armor. For instance the first tier in Warlord of Draenor has warriors sporting armor that seems to have an internal furnace built in, spinning chain saws on over sized pauldrons, and a giant lava filled, spiked, fire belching belt, all of which would not only prevent the warrior from moving, but also very likely cause them extreme harm. Not only that, but why would a heavy plated armor defend someone from say, a hyper charge bolt of lightning, any more than skimpy belly showing armor? Not to mention no one has any problem with hiding head gear.

Another common argument is the all to common "You're just immature if you want sexy armor". Once more, looking at other armors in the game they tend to be over designed, filled with bright colors, completely none-sensical, often with themes that you would most commonly find doodled in a middle schoolers text book. Warcraft is more or less defined by rule of cool. Saying a plate-kini is any more immature than wearing the glowing bones of a dragon is asanine. They are both their own kind of immature, and thats fine. Thats what the setting is all about. Its a setting where people go around wielding giant swords bigger than they are with edgy backstories like "This sword drank the darkness of an evil god" or "These swords are from the remnants of a vampiric soul eating rune blade".

So why are so many against skimpy armor? Seems even blizzard is, which is a bit ironic given how many of their designs are blatantly pandering especially when it comes to showing off men.

Simple answer: Because they are prudish. I am not entirely sure when nudity became socially taboo, but it is ridiculous.

[Queen of Hamsters]

The "fact" that you're stating is that most people who are apparently complaining about this are men and most of those men are anti-feminists. Yet you provide no evidence to support this fact and are instead basing it upon your own opinion.

Weren't you going to "end" this discussion due to not feeling comfortable?

You're getting things mixed up once again though, I'm quite capable of distinguishing between the facts I've pointed to and the arguments I base in my own opinions and experiences.

[Toppy]

A part of the problem with the bigger armors is that they'd simply be to cumbersome to even move in. Likewise if you're going to argue a dragon, I dont see how you're supposed to fight one in either plate armor or bikini. Either way the dragon is twenty times your size. I dont know how that argument could be any worse.

That said, I find skimpy armor visually appealing. Not just because its sexy. I find many of WoW's full plate armor to be vastly overblown and kinda goofy looking.

Having options is not a bad thing, and skimpy armor has fit the setting for ages.

I should further note, that while on the subject of "What could beat dragons".

These two beat a dragon, wearing what they are in this bit of artwork.

[Deleted]

Weren't you going to "end" this discussion due to not feeling comfortable?

Why should you be allowed to get away with saying sexist statements?

You're getting things mixed up once again though, I'm quite capable of distinguishing between the facts I've pointed to and the arguments I base in my own opinions and experiences.

You've not actually pointed out any facts so far. Just opinions. Are you sure you're capable of distinguishing between facts and opinions? Maybe enlighten me and point me towards these facts?

[Queen of Hamsters]

Why should you be allowed to get away with saying sexist statements?



You've not actually pointed out any facts so far. Just opinions. Are you sure you're capable of distinguishing between facts and opinions? Maybe enlighten me and point me towards these facts?

You're really desperate to be anti-me right now when you pretend that there's no fact to the statement of some current cultures policing how women cover themselves and those cultures being run by males. Same goes for the west in historically recent times.

Yep, I'm quite capable of making the distinction still.

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I should further note, that while on the subject of "What could beat dragons".

These two beat a dragon, wearing what they are in this bit of artwork.

I couldn't see the image, but this is it.

Also look at how Grommash was dressed when beating Mannoroth, for example.

[ButterBeast]

The term SJW is pretty accepted these days. Keep on being butthurt though!

keep em comming.