Build help

[MasterNewbie]

I'm looking to put together an entire PC from scratch (relatively speaking, anyway).

Budget: $1000
Settings/Games: WoW, D3, Ark, Elder Scrolls series, Fallout series with medium or higher @1080p/1200p
In the US, Microcenter is an option.
As mentioned, this is a build from scratch. There are no previous components available for reuse. OS, monitor, peripherals are all needed. Eventual owner would prefer Intel.

I don't have a complete list together right now. When I do, I'll post it.
I already have a few thoughts in my head as to what to use: GTX 1060, Intel i3, 8GB RAM, probably a 1TB blue and a 120GB SSD. I don't have everything priced so not sure if those would actually stay in the list.

[Fascinate]

My suggestion:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($195.69 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($96.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($107.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB GT OC Video Card ($202.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $793.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-15 03:16 EDT-0400

Definitely dont consider an i3, if anything you go down to g4560. But with a 1k budget you can easily fit AMD's new 6 core in. Hybrid drives are very similar to SSD's in everyday tasks, if game load times are a large concern you can drop down to a WD blue and add a 250gb ssd to the build.

[moremana]

If you went Intel, (You say he prefers) Something like this for equal value to a R5-1600 is alot more costly. If you went the R5 route and overclocked it (easy to do) you would hit the money on the head and have a good gaming PC for what he does.

Intel Setup

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($327.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - PURE ROCK 51.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z270 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($113.33 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($119.77 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($155.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.44 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING Video Card ($254.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.39 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1168.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-15 03:59 EDT-0400

R5-1600 Setup

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($195.69 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 KILLER SLI/ac ATX AM4 Motherboard ($138.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Flare X 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($116.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($155.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.44 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING Video Card ($254.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.39 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1030.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-15 05:18 EDT-0400

[MasterNewbie]

My understanding of Ryzen is that it is a multithreading beast, but Kaby Lake is still better single threaded (most games are still predominantly one thread, with not much being offloaded to other cores, right?). Rationale for the i3 was that it permitted down the road upgrade to 7600K. 7600K is available for $200 at MC. I don't understand why, but Microcenter is no longer an option at PCPP, so this list will be a bit cheaper than it says.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($227.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - Z270-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($107.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: SanDisk - Ultra II 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($93.25 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.44 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB SC GAMING Video Card ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG - GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer ($16.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 8.1 Pro OEM 64-bit ($79.98 @ My Choice Software)
Monitor: Dell - S2316M 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($99.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1094.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-15 12:14 EDT-0400

With the MC cost, it'll be closer to $1065 before peripherals. I'll run these drafts by him and see what he thinks. It seems I can cut costs by using a hybrid drive instead of two separate drives, but beyond that I don't see much I can do.

Somewhat related but unrelated to this in particular. I am contemplating setting up a dedicated server for ARK (with <10 players), it seemed like Ryzen would be a very good fit for that, yeah?

moremana, he still needs to buy everything else PC related, so $1000 for just the hardware isn't going to work.

[teamkiller]

If you went Intel, (You say he prefers) Something like this for equal value to a R5-1600 is alot more costly. If you went the R5 route and overclocked it (easy to do) you would hit the money on the head and have a good gaming PC for what he does.

R5-1600 Setup

[/B][/U]PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($195.69 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 KILLER SLI/ac ATX AM4 Motherboard ($138.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Flare X 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($116.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($155.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.44 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING Video Card ($254.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.39 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1030.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-15 05:18 EDT-0400

Taking this set up, dropping from the asrock x370 to a b350 will save around 30ish dollars, dropping from a 6gb 1060 to a 3gb 1060 is another 50$ savings Also dropping down to a 250ish gb SSd will save another 50 or so dollars. I have heard good things about the evga bq which will save another 20$. If aesthetics are not a big thing then get an 80+bronze psu from reputable manufacturer to save further. Other than those minor cost changes, mana's build is a solid build for 1080p gaming. Those changes may allow your friend to get a decent monitor then get a gaming mouse and keyboard from china through amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/UtechSmart-Ve...ch+venus+16400 Is a pretty good mouse with decent customizations.

I'd ask around on monitors and keyboards and get some input from multiple people as all peripherals can be subjective to point.

Intel is great for the high end builds 1500+ USD. Budgets lower than that, ryzen is a very very good competitor.

[Blueobelisk]

Is there a reason you're set on buying at Microcenter?

[MasterNewbie]

Is there a reason you're set on buying at Microcenter?

Generally they have better prices on Intel processors. Not looking to buy everything there.