Has the Alt-Right been co-opted?

[Glorious Leader]

No they arent, they abuse the term "conservatives" to become socially acceptable. While they are what they are. Fascists.

The problem with this line of reasoning is that it gives conservatism an easy escape. The alt right is born out of the conservative movement. The rhetoric of conservative polticians since goldwater is to blame and trying to make some intellectual distinction between the two really only absolves conservatives. Fuck that. No day light. You want to use trump and the alt right for tax cuts because its politically advantageous to do so well fuck you you get labeled that.

[lazypeon100]

They are a dissent without opinion.

I should have been clearer, they are pretty much just reactionaries. They get upset about something and yell about it without actually having any idea of how to fix the supposed problem. They don't really have a point other than making "liberals" upset even though I've seen plenty of conservatives disagree with them too.

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The problem with this line of reasoning is that it gives conservatism an easy escape. The alt right is born out of the conservative movement.

No, the alt right was born by american neo nazis with the methods from russian propaganda.

The rhetoric of conservative polticians since goldwater is to blame and trying to make some intellectual distinction between the two really only absolves conservatives. Fuck that. No day light. You want to use trump and the alt right for tax cuts because its politically advantageous to do so well fuck you you get labeled that.

Actually, the GOP will not really benefit from Trump, as he is just not smart enough for the office. He deals more damage to the old fashioned conservatism than he helps them to stay in power.

[ati87]

Also calling it a ''cultural'' thing is totally crap.

If you look at their arguments it's never about culture, economy or rape (last one is made up argument used centuries), it;s about the others/

And yes if you liked what they said then you are no better then a avg stromfront poster.

[Deleted]

Well I sort of identify with alt right lately too. Before all this SJW and PC nonsense, I considered myself a libertarian cause whats wrong with the good old "just let me be, do my own thing, leave me out of your causes, your emotional BS, I dont care and Ill give you the same courtesy". However they didnt.. and libertarians are too few and toothless so at least the alt right people know how to have fun and make the commies pay for interfering. Im never gonna be a part of their collective so might as well troll and trigger them, it's funny.

[JohnBrown1917]

Well I sort of identify with alt right lately too. Before all this SJW and PC nonsense, I considered myself a libertarian cause whats wrong with the good old "just let me be, do my own thing, leave me out of your causes, your emotional BS, I dont care and Ill give you the same courtesy". However they didnt.. and libertarians are too few and toothless so at least the alt right people know how to have fun and make the commies pay for interfering. Im never gonna be a part of their collective so might as well troll and trigger them, it's funny.

>I'm a racist so I can trigger people.

...Well, okay then.

[Deleted]

No, the alt right was born by american neo nazis with the methods from russian propaganda.

Yep, were all totally neo nazis? Except that we have nothing in common with the bloody nazis! Why are you calling everyone ho disagrees with a nazi when youre the real nazis cause you cant stand when someone disagrees with you? (and resort to name calling)

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>I'm a racist so I can trigger people.

...Well, okay then.

Ohh a racist? Havent heard that one in a while... entertain me then? How am I a racist? I just might use this on my Youtube channel, you commies are so adorable, helping me pay my bills.

[Deleted]

Pretty fucking rich coming from someone who joined the alt-right because your feelsies got hurt.

No I joined them cause I like Milo (hes hot, too bad he plays for the wrong team).

In the end it's all that matters. It's all .... good business.

But unlike the left, we don't attack people, we don't care if you call us names, it's just buzzwords. Debate is healthy, having all the ideas out there is good. It's not about being right or wrong but not about certain ideas being silenced. I mean I might hate your commie guts but I wouldnt want to jail you or see you fired, expelled from college or physically hurt.

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Do link your youtube channel.

I work for Alex Jones..

[lazypeon100]

Well I sort of identify with alt right lately too. Before all this SJW and PC nonsense, I considered myself a libertarian cause whats wrong with the good old "just let me be, do my own thing, leave me out of your causes, your emotional BS, I dont care and Ill give you the same courtesy". However they didnt.. and libertarians are too few and toothless so at least the alt right people know how to have fun and make the commies pay for interfering. Im never gonna be a part of their collective so might as well troll and trigger them, it's funny.

I'm not sure who you're referring to when you call people commies but okay.

Trying to make political changes / influence just to troll others you disagree with is probably one of the dumbest stances that keeps cropping up.

[unfilteredJW]

I'm not sure who you're referring to when you call people commies but okay.

Trying to make political changes / influence just to troll others you disagree with is probably one of the dumbest stances that keeps cropping up.

It's the actions of a child.

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I work for Alex Jones..

Well, that's a quick way to throw your credibility out the window.

Thanks for sharing. Explains quite a bit.

[Deleted]

Yep, were all totally neo nazis?

Those who created the alt right actually were. And yes, the methods are the same as like the russian disinformants. Breitbart and Infowars copied their lies directly from Putins propaganda.

Except that we have nothing in common with the bloody nazis!

Sure the alt right has a lot common with neo nazis. First of all, its the same political spectrum. Second, the alt right mainly lives from right wing populism, Hitler and Mussolini literally were in the same boat before they came to power. Third, the main language of the alt right is hatred, xenophobia and racism. Mixed with denounciations of the people who oppose them, with a very special love for autotarianism.

Why are you calling everyone ho disagrees with a nazi when youre the real nazis cause you cant stand when someone disagrees with you? (and resort to name calling)

I actually called those who created the america alt right neo nazis as they exactly were that.

Ohh a racist? Havent heard that one in a while... entertain me then? How am I a racist? I just might use this on my Youtube channel, you commies are so adorable, helping me pay my bills.

Oh, and nazis also called all their political opponents "communists". Except the jews. They are called muslims by the nowadays nazis.

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No I joined them cause I like Milo (hes hot, too bad he plays for the wrong team).

Milo Pedohypocritopulous? Wow, you have a special love for human filth, dont you?

I mean.. he is not just trolling and insulting every gay person in america, he also supports pedophiles.

If people like him are the "alt right" from your point of view, i am sure they are all great americans.

What do you think about Benito Mussolini?

[Deleted]

I'm not sure who you're referring to when you call people commies but okay.

Trying to make political changes / influence just to troll others you disagree with is probably one of the dumbest stances that keeps cropping up.

Ok look at it this way.. whats wrong with the good old live and let live? If you wanna believe you're an attack helicopter from Mars, I don't care. Go live your fantasy, be happy. But the lefties arent happy with that, they want to make everyone else play along or punish them with prison or fines if they dont! And thats where I draw the line. As for the trolling, ridicule is often the best weapon to defeat any ideology. We made fun of the Nazis, we laughed at commies... hell you even laugh at us southerner but we dont care none. As long as it helps to expose stupidity and propaganda, it's all good. As they say, in a dictatorship, laughter is the first to go.

[Darkeon]

When is the next Freedom Fighter LARPing convection, Rym? I usually go to Medieval faire, but kinda want to change the ambient a bit and what you do\say sounds funny enough!

[unfilteredJW]

When is the next Freedom Fighter LARPing convection, Rym? I usually go to Medieval faire, but kinda want to change the ambient a bit and what you do\say sounds funny enough!

Just give a call to your local "militia".

[Deleted]

Those who created the alt right actually were. And yes, the methods are the same as like the russian disinformants. Breitbart and Infowars copied their lies directly from Putins propaganda.

Riiight.. cause there are like millions of little nazis running around.. Well they're all dead. All of them. There are no actual Nazis left. As for the neo-nazis, we hate them as much as the commies, antifas and other fascists. They are ALL anti freedom! We just wanna do our thing and totally not care about you at all... (not even a little bit, we also dont care if you ignore us, honest). I dont care about your skin color or privilege or whatever..just... leave me.. be? Is that too much to ask? And no I wont give you money ..

Sure the alt right has a lot common with neo nazis. First of all, its the same political spectrum. Second, the alt right mainly lives from right wing populism, Hitler and Mussolini literally were in the same boat before they came to power. Third, the main language of the alt right is hatred, xenophobia and racism. Mixed with denounciations of the people who oppose them, with a very special love for autotarianism.

Well I happen to hate authoritarianism.. Im a libertarian at core. Meaning everyone should survive or die on their own merit.. leave other people alone? As for the language.. there are no limits to jokes.. everything goes. If you dont like it, make fun of us back, we dont care. As long as its words and not violence.

Oh, and nazis also called all their political opponents "communists". Except the jews. They are called muslims by the nowadays nazis.

Muslims aren't a race, no ideology should be immune to criticism.

Milo Pedohypocritopulous? Wow, you have a special love for human filth, dont you?

I mean.. he is not just trolling and insulting every gay person in america, he also supportes pedophiles.

If people like him are the "alt right" from your point of view, i am sure they are all great americans.

What do you think about Benito Mussolini?

He is gay.. he doesnt hate himself... and hes funny(and super hot).. period.

[Sky High]

what purpose did it have again? I mean other than trolling and virtue signaling. and I'm basing that off of what they say.

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Riiight.. cause there are like millions of little nazis running around..

No, actually there are only a few alt right in america. Most are normal people, and some of them unfortunately reacted very bad to hateful propaganda.

Well they're all dead. All of them.

If just their ideas died with them. You know, Muslim- and Mexicanhatred. Xenophobia generally.

As for the neo-nazis, we hate them as much as the commies, antifas and other fascists.

So do we talk about self-hatred here?

They are ALL anti freedom!

The alt right also is anti-freedom. Once someone shows up as "Liberurl" or "Clinton-voter", he is denounced to hell. Breitbart publically asked its followers not to buy special products, because they were "too liberurl".

Which is literally the same as like "Kauf nicht bei Juden" in the 3rd reich.

We just wanna do our thing and totally not care about you at all...

Did you think about creating a alt right colony on the dark side of the moon yet? If you need a manual how to do it, just watch the movie "Iron Sky".

not even a little bit, we also dont care if you ignore us, honest.

I actually fight every kind of fascism. So sorry not to ignore the alt right. It's just way better to show what they are up to.

And no I wont give you money ..

Thank you. I surely dont need the pennies of a alt-right-follower.

Meaning everyone should survive or die on their own merit..

While the alt right is more about the "die on their own" thing, right? No socialist crap like "state driven health insurance", something social market economies do successfully for years. right?

You just would let all those die who cant effort the hospital, correct?

leave other people alone? As for the language.. there are no limits to jokes.. everything goes.

Yeah, everything goes. As like denouncing people who do not share your "values" and asking the right pack not to buy their products.

Muslims aren't a race, no ideology should be immune to criticism.

Jews also werent a race, still the Nazis used them as universal scapegoat. As like the alt right does it with Muslims.

He is gay.. he doesnt hate himself... and hes funny(and super hot).. period.

He is a troll, who denounces most of the gay people with his "performance".

[GennGreymane]

what purpose did it have again? I mean other than trolling and virtue signaling. and I'm basing that off of what they say.

Basically nothing and they "virtue signal" virtues that arent even under attack.

[lazypeon100]

Ok look at it this way.. whats wrong with the good old live and let live? If you wanna believe you're an attack helicopter from Mars, I don't care. Go live your fantasy, be happy. But the lefties arent happy with that, they want to make everyone else play along or punish them with prison or fines if they dont! And thats where I draw the line. As for the trolling, ridicule is often the best weapon to defeat any ideology. We made fun of the Nazis, we laughed at commies... hell you even laugh at us southerner but we dont care none. As long as it helps to expose stupidity and propaganda, it's all good. As they say, in a dictatorship, laughter is the first to go.

I mean, I laugh at Florida Man because that's a meme. I don't particularly mock "southerners" more than I do any other group.

Also, what the heck are you talking about even when you say the left wants to imprison more people? The left has been wanting to fix our prison system and get more people out of it.

By fines do you mean taxes? Who has been fined for not respecting someone else's choices publically? The only isntances I could think of would be say, football players as an example. And that's the league fining them for making the league look bad.

If you are talking about taxes, that still doesn't suddenly make the left a bunch of communists. The trolling only serves to weaken the alt right, it doesn't stregthen it. You wanna kow why? This bit about the left being authortarian is nonsense blown out of proportion. You talk about making criticisms of an ideology, yet the alt right doesn't actually stand for anything. If we take libertarism to an extreme, it means just leaving people to the wolves should the cookie crumble that way. The extremes always lack things like "empathy" or any sort of realism.

The real irony though, is you have talk of exposing stupidity and propaganda. Yet you say you "sort of" identify with the alt right who are the definition of what you just said you want to expose.

[Deleted]

Sure doesn't look that way ya know.

Sure does.. otherwise how is it that you have a problem when Trump says a mean word but youre totally fine with everyone ridiculing him?

Uh-huh. Sure.

Ok hes paid me like 10k bucks total for random stuff:P But maybe some day?