[Spoilers] Watch the Skies

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How would Sargeras open a portal to Azeroth, though? We know that the Keystone allows access to all Legion worlds - Azeroth wasn't one of them, so Sargeras can't just sit in the Nether and use the Keystone to come to Azeroth. It brings up the question of how Illidan opened a portal from near Argus to Azeroth: people are speculating that the Keystone works by recording coordination of worlds and allow the user to open the portal to those worlds. If that was the case, it could simply be that the Legion never got to record Azeroth's coordination into the Keystone (presumably using some kind of magic ritual / device) until recently, and thus it wasn't an available option.

pretty much this. hell, as Demonhunter part of your Order Hall questline even is powering up the Keystone and all if im not wrong. Illidan just used the Legions own housekeys against themself....kinda. there is a gigantic portal above Azeroth now which the Legion propably LOVES since it removes the bottleneck issue of them having had with the Felstorm. they obviously can now just launch everything they have right into the skies of Azeroth due to the sheer size of the portal.

its really going both ways with how it can go.

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The keystone is destroyed anyway now, it got consumed when it opened the gateway.

makes you think.....how close it again? don´t think that can be good to have Argus blow up at the end with Azeroth pretty much right next to it through the portal.

[Razorice]

Fine by me that they go with this.

But they better dont ignore the nature effects a planet has on our planet.
You cant do something big like this and ignore all nature laws side effects otherwise it pull me right out of the story.

I understand they cant remake all zones but lore-wise this should have mature effects on the sea level, gravity ect.

You expect logic in a game where a dragon mount is MAILED TO YOU.
Besides, it's probably just a wormhole.

[Resentless]

Because his "You are (not) prepared" line is getting old, Illidan give us another callback to his TFT line of "Sometimes the hand of fate... must be forced" :P

I actually thought that was fucking badass especially with his smug smile. Was certainly a redeeming bit of the cinematic cause I expected more from Kil'Jaeden in the end. I guess he just got tired of being the deceiver and just wanted to nuke us and it failed. The one time he gets into the fray himself and it goes backward. He tried to take sargeras' role and it failed as well. Hmm. Cool character, hope the fight is epic at least so it feels like a hard won battle. Not sure how I feel about him saying he was envious of Velen, but then again we don't really know anything about what they were like together before sargeras came to them. I dunno, not the best end but not the worst either. Illidan still a badass tho, love this crazy fucker.

[Mehrunes]

How would Sargeras open a portal to Azeroth, though? We know that the Keystone allows access to all Legion worlds - Azeroth wasn't one of them, so Sargeras can't just sit in the Nether and use the Keystone to come to Azeroth. It brings up the question of how Illidan opened a portal from near Argus to Azeroth: people are speculating that the Keystone works by recording coordination of worlds and allow the user to open the portal to those worlds. If that was the case, it could simply be that the Legion never got to record Azeroth's coordination into the Keystone (presumably using some kind of magic ritual / device) until recently, and thus it wasn't an available option.

Hand the keystone over to Archimonde during the War of the Ancient and have him open it from there? Super complicated. Besides, in the cinematic they opened the portal while teleporting from Argus (well, its orbit) to Azeroth. Not the other way around. Seems to have worked just fine despite Azeroth not being a Legion world. And how would have the Legion opened up their normal portals to Azeroth or use the Specter to enter it without having its coordinates? Teleporting without specific coordinates has been established to be quite deadly.

[Littleraven]

Fine by me that they go with this.

But they better dont ignore the nature effects a planet has on our planet.
You cant do something big like this and ignore all nature laws side effects otherwise it pull me right out of the story.

I understand they cant remake all zones but lore-wise this should have mature effects on the sea level, gravity ect.

I doubt it is actually there. This is probably more like how you can see Azeroth from Black Temple in Outland when they are actually nowhere near eachother.

[Thage]

TL;DR, Illidan done fucked up now. On the bright side, that giant portal is how we'll get to Argus, probably by commandeering a Legion ship, and we'll probably expend our artifacts' gathered power to close it (lorewise) so Blizz can balance the next expansion's leveling process as a clean slate under the assumption that going forward, latecomers, rerolls, and new players will be entering the next expansion's leveling content with a fresh-to-level-cap artifact, rather than an artifact stuffed to the gills with bonuses and powerful relics.

[Explorer]

So Sargeras' plan now seems to be more clear. This was exactly what he wanted. Provoked KJ to launch a zerg rush attack, get rekt, try and flee back to Argus.
Sargeras knows Illidan well, so he easily predicted that he would convince us to follow KJ. Earlier, demon hunters managed to get the Keystone easily from Mardum - it was poorly protected.
So, he disposed of a stupid, incompetent and disappointing minion, letting us to rip KJ ino epics. But ship was falling, KJ was exploding, so Illidan is forced to use the Kaystone in the only possible way - to open portal between Argus and Azeroth.
Thus, if Sargeras has a big and stable portal to access Argus via Nether at any moment, this makes him able to get to Azeroth in 2 steps. Easily. The portal openedlook big enough to let him through after he enters Argus and then anyhow "jumps" to Azeroth and does whatever he would please.
So our only chance is to hurry to Argus and fight and kill him there, once and for all. But Sarg doesn't even bother to take this possibility into consideration - he belieces himself to be OP and us no match for him, so at the moment he must be laughing in triumph.

[vondevon]

Sargeras now wants to corrupt Azeroth with Fel and keep her/it as his possession - Kil'jaeden and the other Legion commanders probably want to destroy it as per their original mission parameters. Having to invade and capture the world without destroying it is much more of an effort than just scourging it clean of life and magic.

What's the source on this? Is there other new lore in the raid a la RP Voiceovers that explains the Legion's intent on Azeroth?

[Arrashi]

TL;DR, Illidan done fucked up now. On the bright side, that giant portal is how we'll get to Argus, probably by commandeering a Legion ship, and we'll probably expend our artifacts' gathered power to close it (lorewise) so Blizz can balance the next expansion's leveling process as a clean slate under the assumption that going forward, latecomers, rerolls, and new players will be entering the next expansion's leveling content with a fresh-to-level-cap artifact, rather than an artifact stuffed to the gills with bonuses and powerful relics.

Nah, he didn't. We know it wont have any negative consequences. In fact sargeras is probably already writing his death speech.

[Darktbs]

But where is my Treasure?

*Uses Sargery's Keystone to change Portals*

Where....is...my...Treasure?!

[Mehrunes]

pretty much this. hell, as Demonhunter part of your Order Hall questline even is powering up the Keystone and all if im not wrong. Illidan just used the Legions own housekeys against themself....kinda. there is a gigantic portal above Azeroth now which the Legion propably LOVES since it removes the bottleneck issue of them having had with the Felstorm. they obviously can now just launch everything they have right into the skies of Azeroth due to the sheer size of the portal.

its really going both ways with how it can go.

If it was a question of powering up the keystone, then I'd say an endless army with an access to a countless worlds kinda had more access to adequate power sources. Especially since there's a high probability the DH campaign involved stealing Legion artifacts for that purpose. The explanations so far only open up new holes in this plot.

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What's the source on this? Is there other new lore in the raid a la RP Voiceovers that explains the Legion's intent on Azeroth?

Jeweled Scepter of Sargeras lore:

"The Scepter of Sargeras is known for the gleaming jewel that adorns its apex. Many theorize that it represents Sargeras's baleful eye, which caught only a glimpse of Azeroth before the fallen titan was ripped back to the Twisting Nether. But the truth is far different.

Soon after the War of the Ancients, Sargeras had a vision: the Well of Eternity imploded once again, but this time, it dragged him down to the very core of Azeroth. He was there for only an instant, but in that moment, he saw Azeroth's slumbering world-soul--and in that moment, the world-soul opened one eye and gazed at the Dark Titan. He was enraptured.

Since then, the eye of Azeroth's world-soul has not been far from his thoughts. He commanded the eredar who forged the scepter to crown it with that lone, wondrous orb. Next to it, the eredar placed two nathrezim wings, a testament to Sargeras's conception of the world-soul: corrupted, demonic, and most importantly, his."

[derpkitteh]

What's the source on this? Is there other new lore in the raid a la RP Voiceovers that explains the Legion's intent on Azeroth?

warlock destruction artifact lore.

sargeras has a vision of looking into azeroth's eye, and he's enraptured by her beauty.

[Aucald]

What's the source on this? Is there other new lore in the raid a la RP Voiceovers that explains the Legion's intent on Azeroth?

It comes from the Tome of Blighted Implements, the expanded lore on the Scepter of Sargeras (the Artifact Weapon for Destruction Warlocks).

Soon after the War of the Ancients, Sargeras had a vision: the Well of Eternity imploded once again, but this time, it dragged him down to the very core of Azeroth. He was there for only an instant, but in that moment, he saw Azeroth's slumbering world-soul--and in that moment, the world-soul opened one eye and gazed at the Dark Titan. He was enraptured.

Since then, the eye of Azeroth's world-soul has not been far from his thoughts. He commanded the eredar who forged the scepter to crown it with that lone, wondrous orb. Next to it, the eredar placed two nathrezim wings, a testament to Sargeras's conception of the world-soul: corrupted, demonic, and most importantly, his.

You can read the entire set of entries here.

[Friendlyimmolation]

But where is my Treasure?

*Uses Sargery's Keystone to change Portals*

Where....is...my...Treasure?!

sick reference.

[Dagoth Ur]

- Khadgar ^

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

Illidan has fucking balls of magnesium to park the main Legion world right next to Azeroth.

[Friendlyimmolation]

Illidan has fucking balls of magnesium to park the main Legion world right next to Azeroth.

Those things are going to burn bright.

[Shampro]

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

Is Illidan possessed by Sargeras? The guy literally gave the Legion the victory card by parking SARGERAS and his most elite next to Azeroth.