I was making $70,000/yr as soon as I graduated from university, and was making raises before my first year was up. Turns out that if you choose to study for an industry with practical uses, you can do alright pretty easily.
I was making $70,000/yr as soon as I graduated from university, and was making raises before my first year was up. Turns out that if you choose to study for an industry with practical uses, you can do alright pretty easily.
Someone on my course who's about to finish college is getting a job as McDonalds soon. That said the rest of us are moving on to university and he simply didn't get the grades to do so, not that he seemed to care.
This is still highly in demand... If you're not getting a job, then you're doing something wrong, or you're in a particularly bad geographic location.
I have my A+ and CCNA, and I've had two different jobs already since getting my Associates (2yr) degree a couple years ago. Salary 40-50k in a low cost of living area.
Be prepared to demonstrate you know what you're talking about though, most interviews will have a practical portion.
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Nothing like some people assuming others working min wage jobs after college got a degree in some liberal gender studies class.
I actually got my degree in accounting, a profession most people agree there's a huge demand for, and couldn't find work. I could write a book abou everything wrong with the field and how it's in desperate need of a change but I'm on my phone ATM.
If you got a worthless degree, didn't network, and didn't work at all between the time you were 16 and the time you graduate, yes there is a good chance you will work a minimum wage job.
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This exactly.
I live in Phoenix AZ, there are literally hundreds of unfilled jobs at the company I work at that start at 18.00 a hour, can't find decent/enough workers to fill the positions.
I love people who don't know how the world works and just assume college degree in anything that isn't liberal arts = Job right away.
Ask your server at a restaurant if they have a college degree sometime or any kind of certification. You'll be impressed.
It isn't that uncommon as a lot of jobs want you to have experience and they don't want to be the place you earn it. I know people with STEM degrees that don't have jobs. Sometimes it is because they don't want to move or the market for that job became flooded (see anything related to geology)
I continued to work at my internship for 3 months after completing my college degree. I lived with roommates and only made $10 an hour and I was just fine. I had plenty of money for what I needed.
Why is it that the left always pull the "cant live off minimum wage" bullshit argument?
As to your OP, you do realize that not every college degree is made equal right? The likelihood of someone graduating with a painting art degree making good money straight out of college as opposed to a mechanical engineer, or an accountant, or finance major is much lower.
If you choose to borrow someone else's money and then unwisely choose what you educate yourself in with that money, you should be responsible for paying it back regardless of how you feel about being able to get a job with it after college.
I know people who graduated with business/finance/accounting degrees and had similar issues--people who had good grades, good extracurriculars, etc. Graduating right after the subprime mortgage crisis didn't help things, though.
The problem is that the market is oversaturated for all college grads. The assumption that the pot of gold is there for everyone, you just need to choose the "right degree" is misleading. You can up your chances, but it's no guarantee.
You realize going to a top tier law school isn't required and what do you consider top tier? Going to the very top end law schools can be overly expensive and not that big of an advantage. You can get hired anywhere with a degree from a state school, just don't go to something like Thomas Jefferson University or Florida Costal or something and you'll be fine. The upper tier schools are only if you want to be a Law Professor or want to walk into one of the Super firms in Chicago/NYC/LA right out of school.
But, as a Lawyer I don't recommend anyone go to law school without a serious plan or connections there a ton of other degrees in the graduate world that offer better starting salaries, better hours, and a more relaxed atmosphere.
I started my own firm and its been a huge struggle, but each year it does get better and I'm building a client base. Don't expect to get paid right away out of law school unless you go to a firm and be their bitch for 6 to 8 years and don't mind a mid range salary compared to the hours and stress. Also, government employment doesn't give a shit where you went to school, just that you have a bar license.
You are making the assumption that someone with a college degree will NEVER be able to improve their wage and will work at minimum wage the rest of their lives which is a completely baseless assumption.
Even if you start at minimum wage, you can work your way up to be over that and eventually well over that but the left likes to put out propaganda that if you are at minimum wage, you are stuck at minimum wage and therefore we need to increase it.
Someone who is complacent and lazy might not improve their ability to earn more money, but is that the fault of their college degree, even if it is an arts degree?
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So you are on the lower end of the bell curve for that profession, whats your point? And the accounting profession bell curve is highly skewed toward the lower end meaning, you are more likely to get a job in that profession, quicker, than other college degrees.
So on this bell curve, on the left which is almost non-existant are people without jobs with an accounting degree, and as you go right you will see that on average people are employed quicker, and to the far right are people who are employed who are making great money in the profession:
That's what I'm working on officially. Getting an IT degree, and got a few online courses to help study for the CCNA and CompTia tests. And unofficially I'm learning web development so I can sort of make a two pronged approach at getting a real job so I don't have to be customer service for some credit card the rest of my life.
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I wouldn't use your daughter as an example. Every tech company is on a mission to hire women. CS/E in general isn't the guaranteed pot of gold at the end of the rainbow as the internet makes it out to be. We are over-saturated and the people most likely to be jobless are the individuals who aren't aware of our hiring practices.
It's seasonal and by seasonal, I mean February to April and September to November. Recruiting aligns with school systems and university recruitment is the single best way to get in, particularly as an applicant becomes part of a lesser talented candidate pool.
The students who, for whatever reason, do not apply during these timelines are risking a lot of uncertainty as the positions for new grads both dry up and lead to a higher supply of new grads applying for the little positions that show up outside of those times. Otherwise, we look for mid to senior level applicants (commonly disguised as junior level qualifications). Next thing job searchers realize is that it's 5 months after they graduated, student loans are due in a month, and they have a 5 month hole of unemployment/irrelevant employment with programming and algorithm knowledge atrophy.