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    Mum opened nappy to find son had been circumcised

    This woman had quite the surprise when she moved in to change her son's nappy and discovered that her son's favorite toy had been "modified" by overzealous doctors.

    A mother has described the distress of discovering her baby son had been circumcised without her consent.

    The woman, from Nottingham, said she opened her son's nappy to find him covered in blood - and was so distraught she had to leave the room.

    She has battled for four years for authorities to take action.

    Three people have now been arrested, including a 61-year-old man - thought to be a doctor - on suspicion of grievous bodily harm with intent.

    "I opened the nappy and I ended up having to leave the room because I felt hysterical," said the mother, who did not want to be identified.

    "It was just awful really, it wasn't very nice, there was all blood there and stuff."
    'Boys not protected'

    The boy was circumcised in July 2013 when he was three months old, and apparently staying with his paternal grandparents, who are Muslim.

    His mother originally contacted social services, then contacted Nottinghamshire Police on 24 November 2014.

    There was an investigation but the force deemed it not to be a criminal matter, and the case was referred to the General Medical Council.

    The mother later got help from the anti-circumcision group Men Do Complain and leading human rights lawyer Saimo Chahal QC, who wrote to Nottinghamshire Police.

    According to the British Medical Association, male circumcision in the UK is generally assumed to be lawful provided there is valid consent.

    However, the mother believes it amounts to MGM or "male genital mutilation", and should be viewed in the same way as female genital mutilation (FGM).

    "It's even illegal to dock dogs' tails. I've come home crying my eyes out thinking a dog has got more rights than my child.

    "There's something seriously not right with it all. You can protect a dog, you can protect a girl, but not a boy."

    After the letter from Ms Chahal, police reopened the investigation and arrested three suspects, including the 61-year-old man, on 21 June.

    The other two suspects - 44-year-old man and 47-year-old woman believed to be the boy's paternal grandparents - have been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to commit grievous bodily harm.

    Police said all three suspects had been released pending further investigation.

    In the years since the circumcision, the mother said her son has suffered from recurring infections, and his penis regularly becomes inflamed and sore.

    "It looks like he's been half circumcised is the only way to describe it. There's half the skin, it's not all the way over.

    "It swells up, it gets red and a little bit sore in places."

    She has been given cream to apply to her son and told he may need further surgery when he is older.

    Following media coverage about the case, an experienced urologist based in Cambridge has offered to assess the boy and see what can be done to help him.

    "When he first started talking he did say a lot that it hurt," said the mother.

    "Now he doesn't really say much because it draws attention to it and he's getting a bit more private."
    'Lack of empathy'

    The boy's mother said the circumcision has affected her, as well as her son.

    "As a new mum I didn't know what I was doing with a baby anyway, but now I had that added worry on my mind," she said.

    "I was really upset about it. It didn't really get much better from there, it's just been ongoing really."

    She said a lot of people have failed to empathise with her and her son.

    "Even a couple of police officers have made remarks like 'Oh my husband is circumcised, I think it's better'. Or 'Oh they are tougher than they look, it will toughen him up'. It's just silly little comments like that. It's just heartbreaking.

    "I wrote to MPs and they basically shoved me off. Everybody you speak to it's like speaking to a brick wall."

    The mother said she is relieved that action is finally being taken, and hopes the case will raise awareness.

    "I just can't believe that we've actually got to this point now and it's taken four years," said the mother.

    "Nobody was listening when I spoke about it and now it's being acknowledged worldwide.

    "If anything good can come of what's happened to my son it's raising a little bit more awareness to the suffering that comes, and giving people that are thinking of circumcising their children a bit of understanding about what they are doing."
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-n...420511?SThisFB
    Last edited by Wilfire; 2017-06-30 at 12:07 PM.

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    should get very long prison sentence for that

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    Clickbait title. The grandparents had the doctor do it. It's not like a doctor went rogue on his own with no consent.

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    Actual title of article: Mum opened nappy to find son had been circumcised

    OP is misrepresenting the article, and probably hoping that making it look like he is discussing scalpel loving doctors will keep this open long enough for it to dive into religion.
    With COVID-19 making its impact on our lives, I have decided that I shall hang in there for my remaining days, skip some meals, try to get children to experiment with making henna patterns on their skin, and plant some trees. You know -- live, fast, dye young, and leave a pretty copse. I feel like I may not have that quite right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yot View Post
    Clickbait title. The grandparents had the doctor do it. It's not like a doctor went rogue on his own with no consent.
    But how can grandparents give consent on this. The doctor should not have done it without the parents consent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikee View Post
    But how can grandparents give consent on this. The doctor should not have done it without the parents consent.
    That was my thought, grandparents can't do this in the US unless they have custody of the kid for some reason.
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    Not going to jump into the subject of circ/non. But the grandparents were 40 and 43 at the time? That is some quick turnover between generations.
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    Don't hurt the wewe, yo. Don't hurt the wewe.

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    Dogs having more rights than boys is the gist of the liberalization of the west.
    All right, gentleperchildren, let's review. The year is 2024 - that's two-zero-two-four, as in the 21st Century's perfect vision - and I am sorry to say the world has become a pussy-whipped, Brady Bunch version of itself, run by a bunch of still-masked clots ridden infertile senile sissies who want the Last Ukrainian to die so they can get on with the War on China, with some middle-eastern genocide on the side

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yot View Post
    Clickbait title. The grandparents had the doctor do it. It's not like a doctor went rogue on his own with no consent.
    Nope, the doctor went rogue, it is not like the grandparents can consent on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yot View Post
    Clickbait title. The grandparents had the doctor do it. It's not like a doctor went rogue on his own with no consent.
    agreed but .. The doctor should never have performed anything without direct consent from the parents, he's just to blame as the grandparents

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    We all should follow Sweden and Denmark on this, circumcision is illegal there, and may only be preformed when there is a medical necessity. It just boggles the mind that we still allow this barbaric practice in 2017, cutting up baby genitals for fun should be illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeHMeH View Post
    We all should follow Sweden and Denmark on this, circumcision is illegal there, and may only be preformed when there is a medical necessity. It just boggles the mind that we still allow this barbaric practice in 2017, cutting up baby genitals for fun should be illegal.
    i don't know about denmark but it's legal in sweden. whoever told you it's illegal is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matoni View Post
    i don't know about denmark but it's legal in sweden. whoever told you it's illegal is wrong.
    I read an article some time ago, but i guess they where wrong then It still is a barbaric practice though

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    I wouldn't want a tube worm torpedo dick. I'm glad they did it when I was a baby

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    Disgusting.

    Circumcision should be banned altogether unless it's a medical necessity. Fuck what the Jews, Muslims and Americans think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saiona View Post
    I wouldn't want a tube worm torpedo dick. I'm glad they did it when I was a baby
    I am also circumcised, but this begs the question: Having never known what it was like to not be, how can you really say you wouldn't want it?

    That's about as ignorant a point of view as saying "I have never eaten a banana, but I know I wouldn't like them". Unless you were old enough to know what the full experience was like before circumcision and THEN got circumcised, you literally have no frame of reference to base your statement on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeula View Post
    Disgusting.

    Circumcision should be banned altogether unless it's a medical necessity. Fuck what the Jews and Muslims think.
    But it make my peepee looking bigger...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yot View Post
    Clickbait title. The grandparents had the doctor do it. It's not like a doctor went rogue on his own with no consent.
    I consent to have something of yours clipped. Oh what? I can't consent to something for you because I'm not your legal guardian? Well, what a surprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfd View Post
    I am also circumcised, but this begs the question: Having never known what it was like to not be, how can you really say you wouldn't want it?

    That's about as ignorant a point of view as saying "I have never eaten a banana, but I know I wouldn't like them". Unless you were old enough to know what the full experience was like before circumcision and THEN got circumcised, you literally have no frame of reference to base your statement on.
    I would argue that even then you have no real frame of reference, they do not really do these operations because they like it, they only do it when it doesn't function properly and causes problems. The problems will affect how you perceive having a circumcision, i can imagine that if everything hurts like hell then you would be very pleased with that operation. Only when everything works perfectly fine and then you decide to put the knife to it can you have any frame of reference.

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