Volvo to phase out the combustion engine starting in 2019

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great news! thanks for sharing)

[Charge me Doctor]

Most cities in Europe aren't at -20, a few maybe but not most

https://www.currentresults.com/Weath...re-january.php

Since you are using Celsius I am going to assume we are talking about europe and not Fahrenheit / US

Sorry for russian, but that's factual temperature from december 2016 from my area. I wouldn't call -20 as something extreme fictional since i (and half of the country i live in) deal with these temperatures every year

https://www.gismeteo.ru/diary/4565/2016/12/

[Doctor Funkenstein]

I walk to get my groceries. I'm clean.

Who the fuck cares what you do?

ANYONE going to the grocery store in a vehicle MUST use one that has ten trillion horsepower!!!!!!!!!! Those "weak" electric vehicles just won't suffice for any pedestrian, normal, everyday use of a vehicle. According to you, that is.

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I like driving on a tracks. I see no reason why not, it's a hobby.

And, again, so fucking what? Who gives a shit what you do in relation to the discussion at hand?

So you like to destroy the environment for fun. Bully for you.

[Deleted]

My next car is going to be electric, regardless of their shortcomings.

[Flarelaine]

I don't understand why people are so against electric when it's demonstrably better in all aspects except refill time.

I suspect it is not unrelated to the fact that Europe and Japan leapt headfirst into electric car tech while Detroit decided to just bad-mouth it instead. Add pre-existing notions of the superiority of American cars and you can see stateside reluctance.

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Or a bunch of enthusiasts that enjoy the sound and feeling of an ICE.

That bit I could never understood. Maybe because I've grown up around noisy Eastern Bloc cars? For whatever reason, I've always felt that a good car must feel effortless and therefore must be quiet.

[ati87]

Several cities will have such temperatures throughout the year. It may only be for a few days but still, it will happen. Heck I think this year all of Europe had cities record -20 C at some point and in many places for more than a week.

I understand that you can plan around things but placing restrictions on use certainly devalues a product. It IS a problem that you cannot drive the Tesla for long distances without significant planning. And probably even with planning there are regions you won't be able to drive it through due to lack of support, particularly rural frontiers.

ANd their is you're problem ''I think'' without looking it and just making it assumptions.

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Sorry for russian, but that's factual temperature from december 2016 from my area. I wouldn't call -20 as something extreme fictional since i (and half of the country i live in) deal with these temperatures every year

https://www.gismeteo.ru/diary/4565/2016/12/

You didn't disprove anything, again you lot are talking about the minority of the minority

And like if a regular engine works better during those cold periods...

[Mormolyce]

There's nothing good coming from these electric cars. It's a dead end.

Someone preserve this one for posterity.

[Flarelaine]

Oh please, Volvo is just trying to cash in on the fad.

Well, they are a business. They are supposed to do that.

[Charge me Doctor]

And like if a regular engine works better during those cold periods...

Yes, it does. It's kind wonky at -40°C but it works fine at -20°C...

[Flarelaine]

Sorry for russian, but that's factual temperature from december 2016 from my area. I wouldn't call -20 as something extreme fictional since i (and half of the country i live in) deal with these temperatures every year

https://www.gismeteo.ru/diary/4565/2016/12/

I bet Lada Nivas still handle those temperatures just fine.

[Shadee]

Electric cars really aren't much "greener" than traditional cars.

https://www.wired.com/2016/03/teslas...t-green-think/

It's mostly just hype to sell cars to idiot SJWs. Plus you look like a puss driving one.

[Elim Garak]

I bet that you will drive an electric car on a daily basis within twenty years time.

I haven't owned a car for over 15 years now. There's no need. I'm clean.

Well, they are a business. They are supposed to do that.

I didn't judge them

Why would that be so? Surely something good will come from it.

For Volvo, maybe. A better way of clean transportation will be invented long before electric tanks and the infrastructure needed for them become mainstream.

[Surfd]

They are cleaner than cars. Cleaner than horses is only walking.

Buy a fucking bycicle. Cleaner than cars, cleaner than horses, more efficient than horses for basic travel, and as a bonus, could maybe put a dent in the whole obesity epidemic america has going on.

[Elim Garak]

Buy a fucking bycicle. Cleaner than cars, cleaner than horses, more efficient than horses for basic travel, and as a bonus, could maybe put a dent in the whole obesity epidemic america has going on.

Bicycle is not cleaner than a horse. You need oil for it to operate. You know as a lubricant for bearings and the chain. Not to mention metallurgy, plastics... you get the drill. Also when you ride a bicycle you produce more CO2 than just walking or riding a horse.

[Deleted]

The combustion engine is ancient and would have been replaced long ago if it wasn't for greedy car companies hindering innovation and progress intentionally. The only reason we're not driving vastly superior electric cars already is because we've only just recently begun developing them for real.

[Elim Garak]

The combustion engine is ancient and would have been replaced long ago if it wasn't for greedy car companies hindering innovation and progress intentionally. The only reason we're not driving vastly superior electric cars already is because we've only just recently begun developing them for real.

Electric engines are widely used for public transportation since invention of electric engines, I dunno, at least 50 years. It's the only efficient way to use electric engines as transportation. Instead of putting heavy batteries (that need recharging) in each vehicle you build electric lines along the roads - and public transport is attached to these lines at all times, drawing electricity from the city's energy grid directly.

[delus]

One of the biggest reasons for switching to electric is that the onboard navigational systems and computers required to operate self driving cars mean more robust electrical draw on top of the usual amenities.

[ro9ue]

Doesn't matter. Volvo has phased itself out of everyone's interest long ago.

[Shalcker]

The combustion engine is ancient and would have been replaced long ago if it wasn't for greedy car companies hindering innovation and progress intentionally. The only reason we're not driving vastly superior electric cars already is because we've only just recently begun developing them for real.

Electrical engines aren't much younger then combustion engines.

We don't see them used because current fossil-based fuels have much better energy density.

And as far as i'm aware they still do despite all advances in batteries.

Judging by how "higher energy density batteries" fare in smartphones, i would expect first higher-energy car batteries to explode from light tapping.

[Release]

Electric engines are widely used for public transportation since invention of electric engines, I dunno, at least 50 years. It's the only efficient way to use electric engines as transportation. Instead of putting heavy batteries (that need recharging) in each vehicle you build electric lines along the roads - and public transport is attached to these lines at all times, drawing electricity from the city's energy grid directly.

If you don't believe Big oil colluded to keep the internal combustion engine you should watch "who killed the electric car" at every step of this development there have been hindrances and pushes to keep cars with the same engine. It took someone with resources like Elon Musk to actually make them a reality. The other car companies will follow along reluctantly but this should have happened 50 years ago and would have with proper RnD flowing into them.

The range will continue to increase, they are much cheaper to maintain and much cheaper to run. In 20 years this archaic piece of technology will finally be in the hands of hobbyists and them alone where it belongs.