Donald Trump Jr. just posted the e-mails

[LaserSharkDFB]

From that: "But the lying really isn’t the problem." Why isn't lying by the administration a problem? Why is it acceptable? Just because it's so obvious?

Ehn, in context it's pretty clear he just means it's less of a problem than Trump not caring if he's lying or telling the truth and letting his mouthpieces swing in the breeze when he contradicts them.

[Rukh]

I wish there were more moderate/centrist videos like this, particularly the latter half. As left as I am, I was still cringing at how left this guy was, and how much he meets the conservative's stereotype of the type of liberal that they can just eyeroll away. Which isn't to say he wasn't 100% on point, but maybe that point could be shared with the side that has their fingers firmly shoved into their ears if we spoke a more... even-handed language.

Any time liberals try to appear more moderate, conservatives fling themselves rightware to make the formerly moderate position appear liberal. So no.

[Bullettime]

Any time liberals try to appear more moderate, conservatives fling themselves rightware to make the formerly moderate position appear liberal. So no.

Pretty much. Aside from like Sanders, the US Democratic Party are center to center left at most. They just appear like radical left wingers when their opponents who claim to be moderates are advocating for corporatism, supply side Jesus, and the poor to die.

[Garnier Fructis]

Hell, they're completely in charge now and still can't figure out what to do. They need Obama to make suggestions to them just so they can oppose it and at least have that to do.

Maybe it's time for some reverse psychology.

[Nellise]

Ehn, in context it's pretty clear he just means it's less of a problem than Trump not caring if he's lying or telling the truth and letting his mouthpieces swing in the breeze when he contradicts them.

Sure, I understand he was making a larger point in the article about perhaps even more important stuff. I was pulling that quote out of context because it's a scary thing to me that it's acceptable to expect numerous blatant lies and we just have to deal with them as part of the administration.

[Rukh]

This is a good read by Jonah Goldberg at the National review (conservative columnist, conservative publication):

http://www.nationalreview.com/g-file...doubt-now-gone

My guess at what happened is Trump Jr and his associates aren't really in the know with the Trump campaign. Somehow these Russians who probably are only tangentally attached to the government got word of the foreign money going in to the election and thought they could use it as a bargaining chip. They probably didn't have direct communication with anyone who knew more about it, so they figured it would be a thing that the opponents could be accused of.

They met with JR who doesn't know what's going on and thought this is something his dad could use. Kushner and Manafort went because "Oh god what do they know about the foreign money coming in, we might be in deep shit". And quickly shut the whole thing down going "THIS IS NOTHING PLEASE DONT DIG DEEPER ABOUT FOREIGN MONEY COMING IN AND BEING LAUNDERED IN NEW YORK REAL-ESTATE".

Now Jr., who knows very little of the big picture is allowing light to be shined on the meeting and I bet Manafort and Kushner are sweating bullets.

[LaserSharkDFB]

My guess at what happened is Trump Jr and his associates aren't really in the know with the Trump campaign. Somehow these Russians who probably are only tangentally attached to the government got word of the foreign money going in to the election and thought they could use it as a bargaining chip. They probably didn't have direct communication with anyone who knew more about it, so they figured it would be a thing that the opponents could be accused of.

They met with JR who doesn't know what's going on and thought this is something his dad could use. Kushner and Manafort went because "Oh god what do they know about the foreign money coming in, we might be in deep shit". And quickly shut the whole thing down going "THIS IS NOTHING PLEASE DONT DIG DEEPER ABOUT FOREIGN MONEY COMING IN AND BEING LAUNDERED IN NEW YORK REAL-ESTATE".

Now Jr., who knows very little of the big picture is allowing light to be shined on the meeting and I bet Manafort and Kushner are sweating bullets.

Nah, doesn't track. If they were worried about the meeting, they could have just told him to cancel it, and even if they couldn't... well, Manafort was apparently not paying attention and Kushner left early. That's not what you do when you're trying to keep someone from incriminating your organization.

[Rukh]

Nah, doesn't track. If they were worried about the meeting, they could have just told him to cancel it, and even if they couldn't... well, Manafort was apparently not paying attention and Kushner left early. That's not what you do when you're trying to keep someone from incriminating your organization.

They'd want to know what people knew, I'm sure.

As for reports of how the meeting went, remember also the first report was that it was just her and the three americans. Now it's 8 people and she may have had documents.

[Breccia]

A "representative" of the Agalarov family

But this was all about adoption, right?

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The right wing is boiling like a crab in a pot.

I love analogies more than most people, but a crab thrown in a pot of water instantly dies. What's happening to FOX News is slower, more painful, more embarrassing, and has a lot more sexual harrassment.

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This is a good read by Jonah Goldberg

Oh please, some left-wing nutjob who can't holy shit that's the National Review. OUCH.

[Rukh]

But this was all about adoption, right?

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I love analogies more than most people, but a crab thrown in a pot of water instantly dies. What's happening to FOX News is slower, more painful, more embarrassing, and has a lot more sexual harrassment.

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Oh please, some left-wing nutjob who can't holy shit that's the National Review. OUCH.

You're right. I think it's frogs you boil slowly? I know there's some animal you boil slowly. I don't have a lot of experience boiling animals.

[Pannonian]

You're right. I think it's frogs you boil slowly? I know there's some animal you boil slowly. I don't have a lot of experience boiling animals.

You're probably thinking about the myth that a frog in a pot wont jump out if you raise the temperature slowly, until he finally dies. It's a myth.

It was started, because a scientist tried it, and in fact some frogs remained in the pot, but they were partially or fully lobotomized.

[Kiri]

The sample calls in this video made me sad at how effective Drumpf's anti-media bile has been. Part of me wants something like that evil healthcare bill to pass just so that maybe some of these deplorables would hopefully see the light (probably not):

https://www.facebook.com/smerconish/...5261259240071/

Nah. He'll pin any ill effects from this an the Democrats because they 'did not want to help with it' or something.

[Shadowferal]

It was started, because a scientist tried it, and in fact some frogs remained in the pot, but they were partially or fully lobotomized.

That describes a lot of Trump voters...still in the pot regardless of how it is much to their own detriment.

[Pannonian]

That describes a lot of Trump voters...still in the pot regardless of how it is much to their own detriment.

After parts of their brains have been cut... wait... still applies!

[Rukh]

https://www.apnews.com/dceed1008d8f45afb314aca65797762a

"Veselnitskaya brought with her a plastic folder with printed-out documents that detailed what she believed was the flow of illicit funds to the Democrats, Akhmetshin said. Veselnitskaya presented the contents of the documents to the Trump associates and suggested that making the information public could help the campaign, he said.

“This could be a good issue to expose how the DNC is accepting bad money,” Akhmetshin recalled her saying.

Trump Jr. asked the attorney if she had sufficient evidence to back up her claims, including whether she could demonstrate the flow of the money. But Veselnitskaya said the Trump campaign would need to research it more. After that, Trump Jr. lost interest, according to Akhmetshin.

“They couldn’t wait for the meeting to end,” he said.

Akhmetshin said he does not know if Veselnitskaya’s documents were provided by the Russian government. He said he thinks she left the materials with the Trump associates. "

So We've gone from Trump Jr met some lawyer about adoption to Trum Jr and 8 other people met to get information from the Russian government in exchange for lifting sanctions, and probably took said information. Lowly times, these are.

[Orbitus]

https://www.apnews.com/dceed1008d8f45afb314aca65797762a



So We've gone from Trump Jr met some lawyer about adoption to Trum Jr and 8 other people met to get information from the Russian government in exchange for lifting sanctions, and probably took said information. Lowly times, these are.

So Dumbass Jr. is the standard Trump supporter that doesn't like to do standard research? Color me shocked.

[Edge-]

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN1A10Q9

Welp, their attempts to hide behind the Secret Service didn't last long. Secret Service isn't putting up with that bullshit.

[Noxx79]

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN1A10Q9

Welp, their attempts to hide behind the Secret Service didn't last long. Secret Service isn't putting up with that bullshit.

It's really smart antagonizing the people whose job it is to take a bullet for you. Real 4d chess right there.

[alexw]

https://www.apnews.com/dceed1008d8f45afb314aca65797762a



So We've gone from Trump Jr met some lawyer about adoption to Trum Jr and 8 other people met to get information from the Russian government in exchange for lifting sanctions, and probably took said information. Lowly times, these are.

So now we've just passed conspiracy to commit collusion to actual collusion since the documents were passed on. Way to go stupid watergate!

[Deleted]

So now we've just passed conspiracy to commit collusion to actual collusion since the documents were passed on. Way to go stupid watergate!

You have absolutely NO evidence that the documents were passed on. All you have is your speculation - opined as an absolute:

Akhmetshin said he does not know if Veselnitskaya’s documents were provided by the Russian government. He said he thinks she left the materials with the Trump associates. It was unclear if she handed the documents to anyone in the room or simply left them behind, he said.

This is what makes us Trumpkins laugh the most. The conclusions some of you so readily jump to.