Patch 7.3 Frost Death Knight Changes, Blizzard App Update, Tweets, StarCrafts

[Deleted]

I don't like breath build at all, it may do brutal dmg if prolonged but feels ultra weak (almost like nothing happens). I wouldn't choose it even if they buff it a 100% dmg (and now is the best build supposedly). I really like frostscythe as ability and it really feels like a nice cleave spell.

Edit: also... all that "sindragosa" theme, ffs. I like frostwyrms and all that but I'm done with frost dks being crazy guys with swords depending on imaginary dragons that lend him abilities. I want what the lich king was. The lich king also commanded forstwyrms but he didn't need them to complement his frost abilities.

[Deleted]

I get it GC has insights, but he doesn't work with Blizz anymore, and because with your reasoning, we could show any mmo developer tweets and answers. He is working with a moba now, doesn't know anything about Blizz stuff or the future in any projects regarding this matter.
And for the disclosure I like GC, but I also get the "haters" or simply say, critics' viewpoint.

its mmo-champion, not blizzard-central (i dont think shitty twitter answers should be posted as anything "usefull") but i agree i don't see why others developers dont do something similar

[Fabled]

I always feel like people are trying to bait some sort of "gotcha" answer out of him to validate their own opinions as to why they think the game sucks now.

Perhaps, but I always found it to be a neat inside look at how things are done at Blizzard or elsewhere.

[Deleted]

I really hope with these changes to Frost DK, Ret is getting some treatmeant soon.
I know Crusade is hard to Balance and Blizzard somewhat likes the Retribution Passive (which I and many other Rets despise). However, even with those problems Ret is a fairly simple spec and SHOULD be easy to balance.

[Spryte]

RIP Frost, can I get some more Unholy legendaries now?

[Kazlehoff]

You can just enable it in the settings of the app.

Where? just looked through all the settings. no mention of beta. provide screenshot.

[Typhoria]

"An example we talk about all the time is the vanilla WoW rage model for tanks. You need to take damage to earn rage to do stuff. One of your core rotational buttons was Revenge, which stuns the target. A stunned target isn’t attacking and so isn’t giving you rage. Likewise, warrior tanks stacked dodge and parry, which meant you weren’t taking hits and generating rage."
Lol... GC and whomever he talks to never played vanilla. Revenge stun was not baseline. Infact it was a talent that didn't even grant 100% stun, that no one who cared about min-maxing invested points into.

[ColbaneX]

Not okay with the frost changes one bit. I LIKE the Breath of Sindragosa playstyle, and have the perfect legendaries for it. Might just switch back to Unholy.

[VanishO2]

terrible changes for frost =/

putting hrw and bos on the same talent line just nulls both of those choices. It is in fact taking choices away from us.

I don't understand their reasoning for reducing the time we can keep breath up, seems to me balancing cooldowns / knowing the boss fights and when to use bos was a pretty okay "skill" check and the reward was semi-ok burst dps. It felt rewarding and fun.

The buffs they have laid out above don't even get close to covering completely destroying breath. They are axing our potential in half to raise up the lower end slightly.

Not amused.

Because you can't know boss RNG, because when they design the boss fights, they get locked into always having to think about the guys that can't move away from boss thanks to breath to do the encounter mechanics, because you need a longer duration on breath to it even be viable... all that crap that makes BoS one of the worst specs in the game for team play. You become just that guy that the entire raid has to play around because you're locked on boss (and have crap mobility already! lol). Most of the people that really like BoS is because of how it simplifies the boss fights for them. "SORRY! CAN'T STACK I'M BoSing HERE!".

Now at least you'll be free to actually be a raid member and be able help the raid instead, to move away from the boss when needed, etc.

There is a reason most players always leave BoS as soon as they can (or other builds become viable, or unholy become viable again). Blizzard mistake is making one talent, the spec. Then next patch, they decide that people should play the other way and we keep going on and on.

[Unholyground]

Blizz sucks so bad, they shoudnt change how FRost works to please casuals, instead they should only buff the spec by 30% at least do it can be competitive with other dps specs. This nerf to BoS will only make the class simple to casuals to play.

It was already simple to play lol, frost has never been difficult.

[VanishO2]

Blizz sucks so bad, they shoudnt change how FRost works to please casuals, instead they should only buff the spec by 30% at least do it can be competitive with other dps specs. This nerf to BoS will only make the class simple to casuals to play.

The Legion BoS is already for casuals. One mistake before Legion and it was GG your BoS and dmg. In Legion you can have mistakes, no problem, it's just a spam the most you can fest anyway.

[Deleted]

The fucks the point of buffing HRW and then putting it in the same tier as BoS? Youre NEVER going to be able to dump all those resources.

Stupid changes all around. BoS was the only way of making frost at least a little exciting, the previous "machinegun" (that name is still fucking retarded btw) spec was absolutely braindead 3 button spec that had nothing interesting about it.

Thank fuck unholy is viable/better again, the playstyle is 100 times more engaging.

[Eon Drache]

5 years and they still post GC tweets

Hasn't even been 4 years yet. Come on. In other news can you guys look at Crusade for retribution Paladins?

[VanishO2]

The fucks the point of buffing HRW and then putting it in the same tier as BoS? Youre NEVER going to be able to dump all those resources.

Stupid changes all around. BoS was the only way of making frost at least a little exciting, the previous "machinegun" (that name is still fucking retarded btw) spec was absolutely braindead 3 button spec that had nothing interesting about it.

Thank fuck unholy is viable/better again, the playstyle is 100 times more engaging.

So spamming obliterate/rime procs locked on target, wait, do it again, is not braindead? LOL.

Exciting spec... one of the most boring talents of the entire game.

[Deleted]

Download URL for the new beta app ? =)

[Cazmosis]

BoS build is a bad idea, unfun to play, and is mostly why I put my Frost DK down.

...but you know...stuff like Shadow Priest Clarity of Power build...yeah that fun as hell rotation needed TO GO!!!

[caervek]

The next PTR build should have a round of changes aimed at addressing various concerns with Frost.

My only concern is that I can't spec 2H frost again until 8.0, let me know when that's being sorted and I'll care...

[Deonora]

I love the play style of Breath. Making sure your cds line up popping it and being rewarded with good dps. I hate that people complain about it. Yes there are other things they could have done to improve damage make breath work different but this change is just crap. But I guess we will see once it is live. Just sucks the amount of time I invested into getting all the required gear and legendries for this spec just to then have to go unholy since in this patch with no Unholy legendaries and still being horrible with the rotation I do way more damage without trying.

[Deleted]

Took them quite a few months to notice the Sindragosa in the room.
Also, 27% overall buff to all damage speaks volumes.

[Gilgallad]

How does one get the Blizzard app beta update?