Originally Posted by
Hiricine
I don't even accept the ethical standard that you can't consent while drunk, though there may also be a legal one. We hold people who are drinking accountable for basically every other decision they make with the exception of ones related to sexual contact.
Originally the argument wasn't even that someone was drunk, said yes, and then found out later they had sex they didn't want to have, it was that people were so drunk they weren't even awake enough to say anything and someone had sex with them. Those arguing against my point will claim that 99.9% of these cases are the latter but according to almost every anecdote they are the former, and they are trying to argue that the "saying yes while drunk" cases are in reality the "Passed out and completely unconscious" cases. Its a case of the most insanely moved goalposts.