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    Quote Originally Posted by mayhem008 View Post
    did you never tape songs off of the radio onto a tape cassette? Or record a movie on a vcr? That's pirating.
    I made my Canadian girlfriend a mix tape once.
    Flock of Seagulls busted into her house with a civil search warrant and fucked shit up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Glad I don't live in Canada.
    Same thing could happen to you in the States under Section 503a of the Copyright Act.
    “The biggest communication problem is we do not listen to understand. We listen to reply,” Stephen Covey.

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by mayhem008 View Post
    did you never tape songs off of the radio onto a tape cassette? Or record a movie on a vcr? That's pirating.
    Actually that falls under fair use as long as you are not distributing/selling it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thwart View Post
    Actually that falls under fair use as long as you are not distributing/selling it.
    Depends. Generally making a recording for purposes of time shifting is ok, which means you can record it, watch it later, and then delete the recording. Recording for archival purposes is generally not ok, but it's not like anyone is ever going to enforce that, so who cares really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trifle View Post
    Depends. Generally making a recording for purposes of time shifting is ok, which means you can record it, watch it later, and then delete the recording. Recording for archival purposes is generally not ok, but it's not like anyone is ever going to enforce that, so who cares really.
    It is legal to keep the copy to view many times. It is even legal to make and distribute additional physical copies (copy on a physical object such as vhs tape, dvd, thumb-drive, etc) but not distribute via a peer to peer network (i.e. websites, email, ftp site, etc) as long as you are not profiting from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thwart View Post
    It is legal to keep the copy to view many times. It is even legal to make and distribute additional physical copies (copy on a physical object such as vhs tape, dvd, thumb-drive, etc) but not distribute via a peer to peer network (i.e. websites, email, ftp site, etc) as long as you are not profiting from it.
    Pretty sure that recording it off TV, making 100 copies and giving them to all your friends isn't "fair use".

    I googled it a bit and found this: http://info.legalzoom.com/copyright-...vds-26277.html

    Limitations

    When it comes to transferring a TV recording to a DVD, how you plan to use the DVD will largely determine whether it is fair use. By permitting TV recording under the fair use doctrine, the Supreme Court did not intend for people to create libraries of recordings, which could prevent the copyright holder from rightfully profiting from her work. For example, giving a recorded DVD to another person is copyright infringement. Publicly showing a recorded program without the copyright owner's permission -- for example, without "the express written consent of the Commissioner of Baseball" -- is also illegal.

    Probably Allowable

    Simply owning a DVD of a TV program that you recorded is not inherently illegal. Time-shifting permits such copies. Under digital rights management licenses, you are also allowed to keep back-ups of movies and music that you buy. If you are writing a review or a paper on a TV program, you may also record and use the recording -- to a limited extent -- in your work. A good rule is this: if you are recording a TV program for any reason other than to watch it later and delete it, consult with an attorney. It's better to be safe than fined. Or jailed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trifle View Post
    Pretty sure that recording it off TV, making 100 copies and giving them to all your friends isn't "fair use".

    I googled it a bit and found this: http://info.legalzoom.com/copyright-...vds-26277.html
    Taken to that extreme you are likely correct. But giving to a friend or two would likely be fine.

    There is no single definition of "fair use." There are only guidelines and every situation would have to be litigated to determine whether "fair use" was followed. It's almost as if "fair use" is meant to be fair use.

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    I have never heard that happening in the US.

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Mall Security View Post
    Incorrect piracy has destroyed those industries and cost millions in jobs.
    Failure to adapt to newer media is what caused those consequences. Piracy is a byproduct of this failure.

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