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    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    So - let's see the footage of a mage soloing a M+17 ... would be great to see.
    Obviously some classes are better than others for it. A mage could do +0 though, which is what the original claim was about. Bosses hit for nothing, even on cloth.

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    [QUOTE=Jazzhands;46773587A mage could do +0 though[/QUOTE]

    And again - I LOL. Which was what my original response was.

    A zero healing class just has no chance.

    Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
    You will need two people, Brian MUST use the mouse for movement/looking and John MUST use the keyboard for casting, attacking, healing etc.
    Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
    Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.


  3. #103
    When I read "casual" in the topic I thought OP did only LFR. That would have been a feat.

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    Congratz, you have bigger numbers yet accomplished less them him...wait.

  5. #105
    A casual Mythic +15 player hahahaha...oh god.

    It's like those guys that say all you have to do to make gold is level 10 chars to 110 and gear their followers...

  6. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by Ironcast View Post
    Doesn't the tank in Method have like 5 tanks at the same ilvl?
    Yeah that's what OP doesn't get

  7. #107
    What is surprising about this? This is the expasion where any item can rng its ways to the max itemlevel. Also, tanks are usually never given gear priority at the high end of raiding. Dps are usually funneled gear first. I highly doubt your choices for gear are optimal. Itemlevel isn't everything.

  8. #108
    Leave it to MMO-Champion to misunderstand what a causal is. It is almost like some people think that everyone is raiding in this game and stomping on mythic content all over the place.

  9. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by Dilbon View Post
    When I read "casual" in the topic I thought OP did only LFR. That would have been a feat.
    I would honestly be impressed vs ops shiposting. Don't think its possible to get enough ilvl from lfr though.

  10. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by djambalaz View Post
    https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/ch...n-mill/scobomb

    That's him.... Scobomb- the raid leader and main tank of "method" one of the best guilds out there

    And thats me :

    https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/ch...blade/cluttary

    A casual player who only clears mythic +15 for a 930 item in chest and clears heroic ToS and I am better geared than this guy. To me that's frustrating. How can you be a super duper hardcore player and invest most of your time and social life in mythic raiding etc and be as well geared as a casual guy who does cross realm raiding....

    But honestly.... I LOVE IT!
    And all of this is the reason why either Mythic Raids need better loot or Mythic Dungeons need worse loot. I go with option Nr. 1. Oh and Titanforged / Warforged need to be removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djambalaz View Post
    https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/ch...n-mill/scobomb

    That's him.... Scobomb- the raid leader and main tank of "method" one of the best guilds out there

    And thats me :

    https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/ch...blade/cluttary

    A casual player who only clears mythic +15 for a 930 item in chest and clears heroic ToS and I am better geared than this guy. To me that's frustrating. How can you be a super duper hardcore player and invest most of your time and social life in mythic raiding etc and be as well geared as a casual guy who does cross realm raiding....

    But honestly.... I LOVE IT!
    And I hate that, as a casual you shouldn't be getting the gear a Mythic bloody raider gets, especially from one of the best guilds.

    If you want the best, you EARN It just like that guy did. Otherwise, okay everyone gets the same treatment, but that's boring... I'm sure he feels silly working for that gear only to find out every 3rd guy around the corner has the same bloody ilevel number.

    It's like back In the day, strutting around In T2 or just Tier stuff In general and being like "WoW he's a badass must've taken a while, I'll dedicate myself to getting that too!" would a casual player say back then? Yes, and then go on to becoming a hardcore dedicated player of the game.

    And In Legion It's like "Wow he's got a badass ilevel gear... I'll run the same dungeons over and over again (mythic+) aka speedrunners where I just cleave and aoe and get the same gear as that guy!" despite the guy most likely gearing most of himself through raids with tough mechanical fights while that guy just ran random mythics... It's dishearetening and bad. Legion really doesn't prioritize the hardcore players and It shows so badly.
    Permabanned on WoW since April 14th 2015, main acc I had since vanilla gone and trashed for no good reason, 6+ years later still banned with more appeals resulting in my BATTLENET games being suspended for a month eachtime I try making TICKETS because I'm asking for help with the perma ban. Blizzard has stopped caring for their first veteran players and would rather we leave, considering the Lawsuit, can you afford to keep peps banned even for so long under questionable circumstances?

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    +15 and heroic TOS is anything but casual. He just wanted to start a thread about how he's out gearing some top guild's tank.

  13. #113
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    all you do is equipping your m+15 weekly gear regardless of stats or set items

    and your m+ is also fucking trash: https://www.wowprogress.com/characte...blade/Cluttary

    getting a +15 is pretty damn easy and your still depleting them LOL

    letz check: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/charact...blade/cluttary

    LOL 44% overall rating

    summed up: youre bad af, you dont care about anything other than ilvl. the only high ilvl you get is from m+ weekly. sco does have that too, but besides of that he actually THINKS about his item choices. he could easily go 935+

    so get good. thx

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    OP, don't listen to ignorant people here on your thread telling you that "real casual" means a guy who struggles to do +10 and does only LFR and that's it. Casual is defined by the sheer amount of time you spend in the game, not what you do in game. The only reason why mythic raiding isn't considered casual is because of the time commitment it requires, not because 9 hours a week is a lot, but because some people can't make it these hours.

    You're a casual. I have plenty of casual friends who do decent content in a timeframe they've got at their disposal. Know why? Because you, and them - are good players. You don't whine you're casual, you know you don't wanna raid mythic. But you're good at what you do, you're good players.

    That being said, as a mythic raider not having TF drops is frustrating when I clear the entire tier of difficulty above some people and have the same gear.
    Burn it. BURN IT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by djambalaz View Post
    https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/ch...n-mill/scobomb

    That's him.... Scobomb- the raid leader and main tank of "method" one of the best guilds out there

    And thats me :

    https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/ch...blade/cluttary

    A casual player who only clears mythic +15 for a 930 item in chest and clears heroic ToS and I am better geared than this guy. To me that's frustrating. How can you be a super duper hardcore player and invest most of your time and social life in mythic raiding etc and be as well geared as a casual guy who does cross realm raiding....

    But honestly.... I LOVE IT!
    So all it says is that you need gear to compensate for his skill

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    the gear goes to dps since they need it more.

    your title could actually be 'world 1st tank needs less gear to clear mythic than players who only raid heroic'.

  17. #117
    Better geared? I lol'd. You are missing any tier set, which beats any non tier by miles.
    It's not difficult to get itemlevel in this xpac. The challenge is to get the itemlevel on the measingful items, and that means especially having luck in getting high level tier.

    My DH wears 4 875 pieces T19, while in his bags I could replace every single one of those items with non tier 900+ items with mainstat crit (the best stat), and yet with them I sim 80k dps less.

  18. #118
    Quote Originally Posted by djambalaz View Post
    https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/ch...n-mill/scobomb

    That's him.... Scobomb- the raid leader and main tank of "method" one of the best guilds out there

    And thats me :

    https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/ch...blade/cluttary

    A casual player who only clears mythic +15 for a 930 item in chest and clears heroic ToS and I am better geared than this guy. To me that's frustrating. How can you be a super duper hardcore player and invest most of your time and social life in mythic raiding etc and be as well geared as a casual guy who does cross realm raiding....

    But honestly.... I LOVE IT!
    Just cause you have the same ilvl doesn't mean you have better gear. I'm positive that Sco has better stat allocation, maybe better legendaries and he has set bonuses, so overall he is way better geared than you.

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    But then you got to wonder what you actually geared for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by djambalaz View Post
    https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/ch...n-mill/scobomb

    That's him.... Scobomb- the raid leader and main tank of "method" one of the best guilds out there

    And thats me :

    https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/ch...blade/cluttary

    A casual player who only clears mythic +15 for a 930 item in chest and clears heroic ToS and I am better geared than this guy. To me that's frustrating. How can you be a super duper hardcore player and invest most of your time and social life in mythic raiding etc and be as well geared as a casual guy who does cross realm raiding....

    But honestly.... I LOVE IT!
    Dont u see? The hardcore here is you, to be geared as u are takes a lot more time making just mythics then raiding mythic. They are super hardcore for 1 month then they clear all in one day and they turn into casual or at least most of them. You by other hand will play a lot more then him.

    What motivates good players to play is to achiv something that others didnt, isnt the gear they get from that achiv. Actualy u cant even be compared to a world 1st raider lol.

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