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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Celista View Post
    This one is true, though.


    Antifa is a boogeyman made up by the right. Really. They're not even an organized group.

    Read something other than Fox News and you'll see.
    Other then? good luck

    The only sources you can find actual stuff (more then just mentioning) about ''antifa'' are from right-wing source. Fox News is probably the most sane because after that the alternative becomes breitbart, infowars and the neo-nazi websites.

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Strangebrew View Post
    https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/534192/

    He is completely right.
    Replace white with black, christians with jews and they are extremely close to the same shit nazis said.
    For example?

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    You know that the alt Right is an actual movement, right? They hold rallies.



    What's with the right and roman / greek statue / relief avatars? Almost as common as smug anime girls.
    never seen an official alt right rally, not speaking about violent ones. you know, cant say the same about our honorable antifa people.

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Dmitro View Post
    never seen an official alt right rally, not speaking about violent ones. you know, cant say the same about our honorable antifa people.
    Well, then you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    Well, then you obviously don't know what you're talking about.
    I am sure I dont! tho would you please give me some examples that prove my obvious misinformation

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Dmitro View Post
    I am sure I dont! tho would you please give me some examples that prove my obvious misinformation
    First google result. Richard Spencer coined the term alt Right. He is a Nazi who tends to get punched in the face a lot.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ederate-statue

    Eventually they split into alt Right and alt Light. They don't like each other other.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...b8a_story.html

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    The M-Antifa or Autonomous Block do indeed show a more militant or actionist approach to issues but only a historical pleb would compare them to SA brownshirts. SA brownshirts were "our guys on the street fighting the good fight" for the NSDAP honchos who rather liked to commune in beerhalls or coffeehouses to debate the finer details and disliked the idea of making their hands dirty. They were the promoted extension of the NSDAP and consisted of hitmen, convicted criminals and ruffians who'd like themselves to beat up some "Reds". The NSDAP together with the DNVP were organized parties and they actually had the SA hired when it came to public events where the NSDAP wanted to promote themselves, only the DNVP until 1933 shunned the SA because they had their own militant arm (Stahlhelm) which saw itself in a more traditional military rather tradition rather than a bunch of bloodlusty troglodytes which the SA was regarded as by some. Nevertheless when it came to open political violence neither cut short on the hated Reds (communists, leftist socialdemocrats and socialists).

    The modern M-Antifa does not necessarily have aligned goals with the political far Left or P-Antifa nor is one the extension of another since neither are actually operating as unified bloc or global party, they are cell-based organization losely organized by snippets of various manifests some more radical, some more moderate than others. In fact the militants do not and will never realize that they are actually resorting to methods that their predecessors often had to endure and that's where Nazi comparisons often kick in. Established Left parties in Germany do respect - in retrospective due to what happened to antifascists, communists, socialdemocrats and socialist during the Nazi times - their commitment to resist fascism and are honouring that tradition by having similar position in their modern manifests however they do abstain from the classic and often violent approaches of their predecessors in the late 1920s since these days with democratic institutions intact there is no need for it anymore. However it has been said that in state governments some Leftists have contacts to either type of Antifa, even so: Antifa meeting modern Left (Linke) politician doesn't mean it's going to be an amicable encounter.

    Basically: Do not mix up M-Antifa with political Antifa/leftist activists with the political Left, they are not synonymous with each other. It'd be like saying a neonazi is a populist is a Conservative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeek Daniels View Post
    Ive heard alot of this guys speeches and alot of what he says rings true. Fascism is a form of radical authoritariannationalism,[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and control of industry and commerce.
    It's important to note the Nationalism part here, since that's generally a far-right position.
    Fascism is also characterized by a fetishization of the military - a right-wing trait - as well as a near total integration of the military into civilian life (which 'Communist' regimes did too, to be fair).
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeek Daniels View Post
    The parts I bolded are the important parts. Todays socialist governments are trying to forcefully suppress opposition, creating laws curbing freedom of speech.
    Which countries? When last I checked, even the "Socialist hell-holes" of Scandinavia had Conservative political parties.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeek Daniels View Post
    You have the US government dipping its hands in the healthcare industry, insurance and they want even more power over those.
    It's generally in the country's best interest to have the government take control of sectors that should not be run for profit, like public healthcare, etc. That way, if things aren't being run to standard, the public can hold the government accountable for it.

    Here in Australia, we have an exceptionally good public healthcare system - as much as the Liberal (conservative) Party desperately wants to see it dismantled. Even God-Emperor Trump himself sang its praises (which was baffling).

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Dmitro View Post
    Man i ve never seen such a denial in even an attempt to listen to something of not your political preference as in this thread








    Its pathological.

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    my favourite.
    I am all for listening but fox news is all about bullshit. There is zero point in reading the crap they print. Simple as that.

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    if you punch nazis then actually you are the real nazi

    am i doing this right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelk View Post
    if you punch nazis then actually you are the real nazi

    am i doing this right
    Its more their socialist and racially supremacist beliefs that makes them the new brown shirit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by primalmatter View Post
    Its more their socialist and racially supremacist beliefs that makes them the new brown shirit.
    lmao ok then, those famous nazi socialists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelk View Post
    lmao ok then, those famous nazi socialists.
    Are you now arguing that the national german SOCIALIST party wasn't socialist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by primalmatter View Post
    Are you now arguing that the national german SOCIALIST party wasn't socialist?
    oh boy here we go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelk View Post
    oh boy here we go
    I guess?

    At some point though I learned to just shake my head and walk away. Good luck building your second Venezuela.

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    The nazis were actually commies, antifa are actually fascists and humans are actually uhh ,,, cats

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    Black block for ignorants

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    Quote Originally Posted by primalmatter View Post
    Are you now arguing that the national german SOCIALIST party wasn't socialist?
    The democratic people's republic of Korea is a democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supertony51 View Post
    Have you ever been to a rally or convention where ANTIFA was present?

    I have.

    They are violent lunatics sleep, the majority of which are unashamed communists that truly believe that engaging in acts of political violence isn't just justified, but required.

    The media doesn't give them the attention they deserve.

    They don't just attack Trump suppporters, they attack anyone in the vicinity of their protests that dares question their motives or actions.

    Pepperspraying old men and ladies, attacking service animals, even throwing wine bottles with lit explosives in them.

    Their violence isn't limited to just Trump supporters skroe, but classical liberal centrist conservatives like ourselves.

    Don't believe me? Attend a local event where they are active, approach them, and let them know that you are conservative.
    Funniest thing i've read all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxx79 View Post
    The democratic people's republic of Korea is a democracy.
    Why would you bother when he can't be bothered to get the name right

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