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    Alleria would join the alliance if anything, she fought with them in the second war, her husband is human and her only connection to the horde is Slyvanas who literally wanted to murder the other sister so she would also be an undead. But honestly Alleria and Turalyon are too busy with the Army of Light to ever bother returning to a faction.

    On the PTR there is also a lengthy bit of conversation between Vereesa and Alleria about Slyvanas now leading the horde and how it basically sickens Alleria to think about it. https://youtu.be/eEHL7lKcmCM?t=1m2s

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    Only connection to the horde is Sylvanas? Hate to rain on so many's day but Blood Elves are High Elves. You can put fel lipstick on a pig but its still a pig. Thats like claiming green orcs are a different race from brown orcs. They aren't even different races of the same species they are literally the same species but with fel inside their body. You might as well call those who got vaccines a different species from those who don't. If I recall there are legions more blood elves than alliance high elves meaning a majority of her species is allied with the Horde. I'm not implying she should join the horde for that reason but that many don't seem to understand biology. Granted if humans and elves can interbreed I would expect in the future the High Elves would breed themselves out of existance as they don't have any strong sovereignty and seem to like humans just fine.

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    Alleria was gone before the Scourge happened to Azeroth. She would have no real concept of undeath as Azeroth has come to understand it.

    For what it's worth, the person Sylvanas was before and after she was raised are two drastically different people. Living Sylvanas was still headstrong and courageous but the malice and general disregard for life The Dark Lady now has were no where to be found in the little sister Alleria knew. There's a chance that, even though Sylvanas is walking around and leading the Horde, Alleria will consider her sister dead. And in a sense, she is dead. In her long Absence, Alleria Windrunner lost her sister Sylvanas to The Scourge. The cruel corpse that is left is no more Sylvanas Windrunner than The Lich King was Arthas Menethil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forsake View Post
    because sylvanus is there??
    meanwhile
    her son is alliance
    her husband is alliance
    her other sister is alliance
    her other sisters husband was alliance when he was alive
    her friends were alliance

    The horde has trolls, orcs, undead, all things she HATES (Both attacked her people and she spent her life killing them, undead killed her peoples homeland)
    Meanwhile the horde killed her brother in law/sisters husband

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    Quote Originally Posted by whynotchris View Post
    Alleria was gone before the Scourge happened to Azeroth. She would have no real concept of undeath as Azeroth has come to understand it.

    For what it's worth, the person Sylvanas was before and after she was raised are two drastically different people. Living Sylvanas was still headstrong and courageous but the malice and general disregard for life The Dark Lady now has were no where to be found in the little sister Alleria knew. There's a chance that, even though Sylvanas is walking around and leading the Horde, Alleria will consider her sister dead. And in a sense, she is dead. In her long Absence, Alleria Windrunner lost her sister Sylvanas to The Scourge. The cruel corpse that is left is no more Sylvanas Windrunner than The Lich King was Arthas Menethil.
    idk if you know but the legion made the curse of undeath, so im sure in all the time fighting them she has encountered undead, and to learn the undead massacered her people, and now her sister commands then and RAISES MORE OF THEM!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destinas View Post
    Alleria and Vereesa talk about Sylvanas and the Horde in 7.3, you know (found here under the "Alleria and Sylvanas" spoiler tab). From what she says, it doesn't sound like she has totally forgiven the Horde for the Second War/Outland, but it's not like she's turning their help away on Argus either.

    She will probably remain somewhat neutral. The Alliance and Horde each have a Windrunner leader as it is.
    since when did alliance have a windrunner leader?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friendlyimmolation View Post
    Alleria like all windrunner sisters has a few screws loose, Vereesa having the worst of it. She's probably going to end up completely fucking batty judging by her actions or neutral.

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    Vereesa would literally do anything to be allowed into Quel'thalas. If someone told her she had to leave the alliance to be welcome back she'd do it while cartwheeling. That is unless she ran into Rommath, at which point she would start screeching and rapidly firing arrows in random directions.
    Vereesa's screws are more loose then syvlanas's?
    She is raising undead
    Admits there is nothing different between her and the lich king
    tried to enslave a race that was going to help us fight the legion
    made a deal with a minion of an old god
    when is the rest of the horde gunna kick her out for being the war chief, and ditching her people to go chase after who were suppose to be our allies, and force them into enslavement using an item she got from making a deal with a minion of the old gods....
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    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    meanwhile
    her son is alliance
    her husband is alliance
    her other sister is alliance
    her other sisters husband was alliance when he was alive
    her friends were alliance

    The horde has trolls, orcs, undead, all things she HATES (Both attacked her people and she spent her life killing them, undead killed her peoples homeland)
    Meanwhile the horde killed her brother in law/sisters husband

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    idk if you know but the legion made the curse of undeath, so im sure in all the time fighting them she has encountered undead, and to learn the undead massacered her people, and now her sister commands then and RAISES MORE OF THEM!
    I just meant whatever tie she had to Sylvanas...it's probably long since gone.

    As far as joining the Horde or Alliance - I don't think Alleria would join either. While she still has disgust for orcs there's no way it hasn't "cooled" by now. To Turalyon and Alleria in the Twisting Nether, where time works differently, it has felt as though they've been commanding the Army of the Light for 1000 years. After watching world after world burn, Horde v Alliance would (I assume) look rather childish.

    Joining "the greater good" side was also in her from an early age. "The eldest child, Alleria was expected to succeed her mother as Silvermoon's ranger-general, but Alleria herself had little use for the expectations or traditions of the high elves. She instead focused on practical matters, and chose to become one of the Farstriders, a group of rangers that fought for her people all across Azeroth."

    If I were writing it, which of course I'm not (shocking!), I'd have Alleria have a vague bitterness towards the Orcs but after everything she's been through and seen, I'd imagine she'd see all the faction squabbles on Azeroth as very small-picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    No it's not. Horde has Sylvanas, Vereesa is neutral and Alleria is Alliance.

    Edit: I'm wrong.
    Vereesa went neutral so she can be gffs with jaina alot more which is good they make a nice couple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forsake View Post
    Isnt this a given? Once she comes back and sees how the traitorous Alliance has been acting lately, she'll be begging for a hotel in Silvermoon.

    Besides, she has a sister (the sane one) on the Horde.
    Nah... she'll be the catalyst for neutral Blood Elves.

    One sister is on the Alliance.
    One sister is Neutral.
    One sister is on the Horde.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narveid View Post
    Traitorous? What has the Alliance done that is traitorous?
    they've stabbed the blood elves in the back like three times in their history together.

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    Sigh.

    Outside of the Burning Legion that the Army of the Light has been fighting for years now, there are two things that Alleria hates beyond all other things; Trolls -- who imprisoned her -- and Orcs - who aided the trolls in murdering her kin.

    Why would she join the Horde based on these two facts which have existed for 20+ years. (No question mark because it is not a question)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narveid View Post
    Traitorous? What has the Alliance done that is traitorous?
    the whole reason the belves are on the horde (besides them needing a pretty race) is cause the humans have betrayed them over and over
    change can't wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    since when did alliance have a windrunner leader?
    You know full well that Vereesa is the leader of the Silver Covenant, and one of the leaders of the Alliance-affiliated High Elves - the others being Auric Sunchaser from Allerian Stronghold, and Death-Hunter Hawkspear from the EPL lodge (one of whom is dead, and the other hasn't shown up since WotLK). You also know full well that each race has a leader to represent them within the Alliance and Horde, and you know that was what I meant.
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    I doubt she would join the opposite faction as her son Arator is on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forsake View Post
    the whole reason the belves are on the horde (besides them needing a pretty race) is cause the humans have betrayed them over and over
    Actually, that would be because Kael'thas Sunstrider pulled them out... before he betrayed his own people. All of the criticism leveled at the Alliance and their mistreatment was due to Garithos. Also, during MoP, Varian almost brought the Blood Elves back into the Alliance, but ironically it was Jaina's actions in Dalaran and her kicking the Sunreavers out that undermined it. That would be like holding the entire Horde liable for what Garrosh did. One man and his actions don't make a faction.

    Also, let me note that there are many references to what makes High Elves and Blood Elves different in the game. See; Silver Covenant in WotLK and MoP, the Quel'Delar "Battered Hilt" questline, Allerian Stronghold in TBC as well as High Elves fighting alongside the Alliance at Theramore, where Rhonin sacrifices himself to save Vereesa, Jaina, and most of Kalimdor. For heavens sake, Blizzard has put more effort into telling the High Elves story than the dwarves, gnomes and worgen combined.

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    I'd be for it. Sylvanas & Alleria glaring at Vereesa for joining the... terrible side. Heh.

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    No. She's going to stay neutral. Just like Turalyon. Just like Khadgar. Just like the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    they've stabbed the blood elves in the back like three times in their history together.
    Think you have that backwards buddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandrox View Post
    Think you have that backwards buddy.
    anasterian(sorry, idk what i was thinking there) skimped on his aid to the alliance against the horde, but he still sent troops to aid.

    garithos waited before giving his aid, forcing kael'thas to take aid from the naga. then garithos attempted to execute him and every blood elf under his command and dalaran simply turned their heads and let it happen.

    and then dalaran betrays them again in mists.
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    Alleria does not give a shit about the alliance. They were tools for her revenge. Her people are the most important thing to her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    anasterian(sorry, idk what i was thinking there) skimped on his aid to the alliance against the horde, but he still sent troops to aid.

    garithos waited before giving his aid, forcing kael'thas to take aid from the naga. then garithos attempted to execute him and every blood elf under his command and dalaran simply turned their heads and let it happen.

    and then dalaran betrays them again in mists.
    The Sunreavers betrayed the Kirin Tor, not the other way around (see: Mana Bomb). Garithos is one man and does not equal the whole of the Alliance. Dalaran was part of the Alliance and Garithos was the leader of the army -- as if they had a choice. Kael'thas betrayed his people also, mind you. Your argument is weak.

    ...Someone is a Horde fanboy who clearly plays a Blood Elf...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keeper Zanjin View Post
    Alleria does not give a shit about the alliance. They were tools for her revenge. Her people are the most important thing to her.
    Keep in mind her husband was leader of the Alliance Expedition into Draenor before they chased Ner'zhul through portals off the planet before it shattered into Outland...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Iron Fist View Post
    The Sunreavers betrayed the Kirin Tor, not the other way around (see: Mana Bomb). Garithos is one man and does not equal the whole of the Alliance. Dalaran was part of the Alliance and Garithos was the leader of the army -- as if they had a choice. Kael'thas betrayed his people also, mind you. Your argument is weak.

    ...Someone is a Horde fanboy who clearly plays a Blood Elf...
    one sunreaver, being used by garrosh.

    they didn't stop to find out the truth behind it, jaina flew into a rage and the silver covenant was unleashed and they went to murdering civilians.

    that is betrayal.

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    oh, there's also the fact that kael was a member of the council of six, and not a single other member of the council did anything to stop garithos. that is betrayal.

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