Trump considering pardon for Joe Arpaio

[Orbitus]

I Just wanted to see how far it went. I do not believe that a man stopping illegal's from remaining in the country deserves to be prosecuted. But that's just me

But he wasn't stopping illegals, he was racial profiling and stopping EVERYONE with darker skin than him. That is discrimination and that is why he was ordered to stop. That is also why he should be serving 6 months in prison.

[Somewhatconcerned]

Only 6 months? Seems light.

Party of personal accountability, folks.

[Orbitus]

Only 6 months? Seems light.

Party of personal accountability, folks.

It was contempt of court. But the fact that Trump might pardon him, would only help further cement that he is a racist pos.

[draynay]

It was contempt of court. But the fact that Trump might pardon him, would only help further cement that he is a racist pos.

Once you support Nazis the cement has dried. I don't think any more is needed.

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Whataboutism...should we call it Trumpaboutism®?

I don't think you know what whataboutism is. Calling out bullshit for what it is is not whataboutism.

An example of whataboutism would be laughing at all the liberals and democrats who call Trump a white nationalist while we have evidence that Hillary was smooched by a KKK grand dragon and called him the "heart and soul of america":




That's whataboutism

[Edge-]

I don't think you know what whataboutism is. Calling out bullshit for what it is is not whataboutism.

An example of whataboutism would be laughing at all the liberals and democrats who call Trump a white nationalist while we have evidence that Hillary was smooched by a KKK grand dragon and called him the "heart and soul of america":




That's whataboutism

Are we still pretending that Robert Byrd didn't receive awards for the NAACP for the work he did educating and fighting back against white supremacy after he disavowed his ways long ago?

https://donate.naacp.org/press/entry...r-robert-byrd/

Homeboy, your whataboutism is little league status.

[Breccia]

That's whataboutism

No. It's a misrepresentation so foul even you should call yourself a fucking liar.

This story is hardly old. Byrd quit the KKK in 1952, called it the dumbest thing he's ever done, and served the public interest for six decades trying to atone. He was also one of the most outspoken critics of the 2004 Iraq war, even trying to lead a filibuster to block Bush from going ahead with the attack. The NAACP mourned his passing in 2010 with this statement.

“Senator Byrd reflects the transformative power of this nation. Senator Byrd went from being an active member of the KKK to a being a stalwart supporter of the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act and many other pieces of seminal legislation that advanced the civil rights and liberties of our country. Senator Byrd came to consistently support the NAACP civil rights agenda, doing well on the NAACP Annual Civil Rights Report Card. He stood with us on many issues of crucial importance to our members from the reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act, the historic health care legislation of 2010 and his support for the Hate Crimes Prevention legislation. Senator Byrd was a master of the Senate Rules, and helped strategize passage of legislation that helped millions of Americans. He will be sorely missed.”

And, he was never a Grand Dragon. He was a recruiter. That's not misrepresentation on your part, that's just an objective falsehood.

This picture is what is wrong with Trump supporters. They are unable to deal with things like context and fact, and instead go with their feels no matter what the truth is. Too bad, you're objectively wrong, and worse, you follow Trump's practice TODAY of using old, outdated, still factually false attacks which have no basis in reality, common sense, or even lightweight fiction.

You are either blatantly lying, blatantly trolling, or blatantly uninformed. Pick one. Post constructively or don't post at all.

[Wyrt]

Fitting that Trumpkins love whataboutism so much considering it's a Russian propaganda tool.

[Deleted]

Are we still pretending that Robert Byrd didn't receive awards for the NAACP for the work he did educating and fighting back against white supremacy after he disavowed his ways long ago?

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Thats why robert bryd still used racial slurs as late as 2001. But he's a democrat. Nothing to see here folks.

Btw Trump:

1986 Trump received the Ellis Island medal along with Rosa Parks
1991 Donald Trump says "he hates seeing what David Duke represents", in an interview with Larry King.
1997 Donald Trump was praised by anti-defamation leagues who confirmed Trump's legal fight to end anti-Semitism at private clubs
2000 Donald Trump calls David Duke a bigot, a racist, and a problem
2008 Donald Trump shelters Jennifer Hudson at the Trump International Hotel & Tower, Chicago, free of charge after her family was murdered
2015 Trump says he doesn't want David Duke's support, and that he really hopes that there isn't anything about his campaign that would attract hate groups
2016 CNN Reports that Trump disavows the alt-right, and that he specifically told the New York Times that he doesn't want to energise them
2017 Trump repeats his condmnation of hatred, bigotry, and violencee


But don't let facts and research get in the way of your parroted screeching.

[zorkuus]

[/URL]1991 Donald Trump says "he hates seeing what David Duke represents", in an interview with Larry King.
2000 Donald Trump calls David Duke a bigot, a racist, and a problem

And during the campaign he said he doesn't know who David Duke is when asked about him supporting Trump so blow it out your ass. The man says whatever serves him at the time.

[Breccia]

Btw Trump:

*cracks knuckles*

1986 Trump received the Ellis Island medal along with Rosa Parks
1991 Donald Trump says "he hates seeing what David Duke represents", in an interview with Larry King.

Was that before or after he was sued, successfully, by the federal government, for refusing to rent to African Americans?

Twice?

1997 Donald Trump was praised by anti-defamation leagues who confirmed Trump's legal fight to end anti-Semitism at private clubs

Was that before or after he said he didn't want blacks counting his money, he wants Jews counting his money?

2000 Donald Trump calls David Duke a bigot, a racist, and a problem

And then pretended not to know who he was.

2008 Donald Trump shelters Jennifer Hudson at the Trump International Hotel & Tower, Chicago, free of charge after her family was murdered

Was that before or after Trump called for the death penalty for the Central Park Five, even after they were freed on DNA evidence?

2015 Trump says he doesn't want David Duke's support, and that he really hopes that there isn't anything about his campaign that would attract hate groups

And then forgot who he was, somehow. Also the KKK newsletter was one of the single-digit number of newspapers to endorse Trump.

2016 CNN Reports that Trump disavows the alt-right, and that he specifically told the New York Times that he doesn't want to energise them

Was that before or after he brought on Steve Bannon, effective leader of the alt-right?

2017 Trump repeats his condmnation of hatred, bigotry, and violencee

And in one of his four talks on the subject, the one where he read off a piece of paper, he condemned American Nazis and the KKK. Guess what he didn't do when he didn't have a piece of paper to read off of, or worse, had one but chose not to use it?

So your attempt to portray him as a non-racist, is to show the times he disavowed David Duke -- which, I'll remind you, is what everyone else is doing and he did almost 25% of the time this week -- stood next to a black woman, and put up one person in his hotel. Meanwhile, you call someone who fought for civil rights for multiple decades a Grand Dragon, which is a lie, and used it to try to absolve Trump by pretending Clinton was in bed with the KKK. That's not just disingenuous, that's hypocrisy.

The fact of the matter is, you will never, never, be able to say Trump condemned American Nazis and the KKK in any fashion that lends weight to its credibility. He used moral equivalence twice, took 48 hours to read a condemnation off a piece of paper, and tweeted about how this was about statues this morning.

You can't gloss this over. There is nothing you can do. Scream into the wind all you want, nobody can hear you.

[Edge-]

Thats why robert bryd still used racial slurs as late as 2001. But he's a democrat. Nothing to see here folks.

Yep, he did use them occasionally, though never directed towards people of color. He deserved criticism for when he used them, which he received, but I fail to see how that changes the work the man did after he realized how awful the KKK was and left to spend the rest of his life fighting back against white supremacists.

You're asking people to ignore all the work he was doing to focus more on what he did in the past.

Btw Trump:

1986 Trump received the Ellis Island medal along with Rosa Parks
1991 Donald Trump says "he hates seeing what David Duke represents", in an interview with Larry King.
1997 Donald Trump was praised by anti-defamation leagues who confirmed Trump's legal fight to end anti-Semitism at private clubs
2000 Donald Trump calls David Duke a bigot, a racist, and a problem
2008 Donald Trump shelters Jennifer Hudson at the Trump International Hotel & Tower, Chicago, free of charge after her family was murdered
2015 Trump says he doesn't want David Duke's support, and that he really hopes that there isn't anything about his campaign that would attract hate groups
2016 CNN Reports that Trump disavows the alt-right, and that he specifically told the New York Times that he doesn't want to energise them
2017 Trump repeats his condmnation of hatred, bigotry, and violencee


But don't let facts and research get in the way of your parroted screeching.

Except like...you know...his current actions and behavior over the past few years drawing constant criticism, and his most recent behavior largely only being defended by...white supremacists.

You're asking us to focus on what he did in the past (which conveniently ignores things like when he was sued for discrimination by the federal government and had to settle), rather than what he's actively doing now.

That's a nicely formatted post though, hyperlinks and everything!

[draynay]

1986 Trump received the Ellis Island medal along with Rosa Parks

Neat, Nixon won one too, and Brooke Shields, Gerald Ford, the list goes on.

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You're asking us to focus on what he did in the past what he's actively doing now.

Ok, show me where Trump has been racist.

[draynay]

Ok, show me where Trump has been racist.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...for-Joe-Arpaio

[Edge-]

Ok, show me where Trump has been racist.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...54409511129088

Encouraging people to "research" the BS lie about Pershing fits the bill, I'd say. Also, you know, his failure to initially call out white supremacists. And then him doubling down on blaming "all sides" on Tuesday.

Again, there's a reason that pretty much the only people in the world not leveling criticism at him (he's got the Joint Chiefs, GOP leadership, liberals, foreign leaders, CEO's, and a long, long, long list of others criticizing him) are...white supremacists.

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http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...for-Joe-Arpaio

He considers pardoning him for his engagement for deporting illegals not because he endorses his racial profiling.

Next

[zorkuus]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...54409511129088

Encouraging people to "research" the BS lie about Pershing fits the bill, I'd say. Also, you know, his failure to initially call out white supremacists. And then him doubling down on blaming "all sides" on Tuesday.

Again, there's a reason that pretty much the only people in the world not leveling criticism at him (he's got the Joint Chiefs, GOP leadership, liberals, foreign leaders, CEO's, and a long, long, long list of others criticizing him) are...white supremacists.

That whole fake story sounds suspiciously like something far right circles would use. Maybe Trump got it from there? it's no secret that he has retweetd memes and posts from far right nutjobs (intentionally or not is besides the point).

[Edge-]

He considers pardoning him for his engagement for deporting illegals not because he endorses his racial profiling.

Next

*snickers*

Do you honestly believe that?

FYI - for all Trump's talk about ramping up deportations, he's not actually taking action - https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ump/484437001/

They're just arresting a helluva lot of folks, including a helluva lot of the non-criminal residents that have set down roots in their communities that he's said he would deport, then wouldn't, then maybe, then would, then who knows where he stands now.

That whole fake story sounds suspiciously like something far right circles would use. Maybe Trump got it from there? it's no secret that he was retweetd memes and posts from far right nutjobs (intentionally or not is besides the point).

Pershing's story long predates Trump, and I believe the alt-right as well. No clue where it initially came from, but it's nothing recent.

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...54409511129088

Encouraging people to "research" the BS lie about Pershing fits the bill, I'd say. Also, you know, his failure to initially call out white supremacists. And then him doubling down on blaming "all sides" on Tuesday.

Weak: Islam is not a race and neither is it questionable to fight radical islam extremists.

Also him not responding within 24 hours gets you riled up? Is there a rule that states that he has to respond within 24 hours or he condones something? Parroted weak argument.

And whats wrong with blaming both sides when both sides were violent?


"Again, there's a reason that pretty much the only people in the world not leveling criticism at him (he's got the Joint Chiefs, GOP leadership, liberals, foreign leaders, CEO's, and a long, long, long list of others criticizing him) are...white supremacists."

That's not only false equivalency, but also bullshit.


Is that all?