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    Member of Trump's Evangelical Advisory Board resigns over 'conflict in values'

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    The pastor of a New York megachurch said Friday that he has resigned from President Trump's Evangelical Advisory Board, citing "a deepening conflict in values" with the administration.

    Rev. A.R. Bernard, who leads the Christian Cultural Center in Brooklyn, said in a statement that he had "quietly stepped away" from the panel several months ago, but submitted his formal resignation on Tuesday.

    "In a social and political climate such as ours, it often takes a gathering of unlikely individuals to shape the future of our nation on issues of faith and inner city initiatives," Bernard said. "I was willing to be one of those individuals, and that is why I agreed to serve on the President's Evangelical Advisory Board."

    "However, it became obvious that there was a deepening conflict in values between myself and the administration," he continued.

    Bernard's resignation from the board comes as a growing number of business leaders and outside advisers look to distance themselves from Trump amid backlash over his recent comments on Charlottesville, Va.

    It was not immediately clear if Bernard had formally resigned from the panel because of the president's comments on Tuesday, in which he equated white nationalists to the counter-demonstrators who had gathered in Charlottesville to oppose them.

    The pastor signed onto a Monday letter from the Commission of Religious Leaders fiercely condemning hate groups in the wake of the violence in Charlottesville.

    "We will not be silent while neo-Nazis, white supremacists, or any individuals or groups, seek to divide us from one another," the letter reads.

    As several business and industry leaders resigned from Trump's economic councils on Wednesday, the president abruptly declared that he was disbanding the groups.

    And on Thursday, the White House announced that it would abandon plans to create a council of outside advisers on infrastructure.

    Several members of the President's Committee on the Arts and Humanities announced in a letter on Friday that they were leaving the panel, as well, citing Trump's equivocal statements on white nationalist and neo-Nazi groups that incited violence in Charlottesville on Saturday.

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    Seems that evangelicals actually have values. I'm as surprised as anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    Seems that evangelicals actually have values. I'm as surprised as anyone.
    Correction, one evangelical does. The rest apparently don't.

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    The guy insulted the pope, which wasn't enough. But, being a Nazi was too much. Good on them...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    The guy insulted the pope, which wasn't enough. But, being a Nazi was too much. Good on them...
    Protestants don't have as close an attachment to the Pope as Catholics : P

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    Why was there ever a need for an Evangelical Advisory Board?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    Why was there ever a need for an Evangelical Advisory Board?
    Identity politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    Identity politics.
    Coming up with a bunch of useless boards and councils doesn't sound like a great identity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    Coming up with a bunch of useless boards and councils doesn't sound like a great identity.
    But it is the alt-right's modus operandi to do something wrong and evil but accuse the other parties of doing it first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    The guy insulted the pope, which wasn't enough. But, being a Nazi was too much. Good on them...
    Evangelicals don't respect the Pope, they find him to progressive. I'm not even joking here that's how far gone down the rabbit hole bible belt americans are.

    You know why they find him to progressive? The pope doesn't compare gays to animals but actual human beings and while not being for things as gay marriage he did declare and called all Christians to respect and love their neighbor, brother, sister and what not and not shun them, hurt them or whatever lovely thing they love to do to others that aren't part of their club.

    Other things that are too progressive for those type of people, Climate change, not calling for the extermination of other religions and their people like jews and muslims, and until recently not liking Trump his politics and what they also didn't like was his politics being called apocalyptic.


    As for the values, these people have none they are the bottom of the food chain when it comes to religion and merely a few steps up from Islam fundamentalist and mostly because they are probably too fat and lazy to actually commit an act of terror.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    The guy insulted the pope, which wasn't enough. But, being a Nazi was too much. Good on them...
    Evangelicals are the ones who think that Catholics aren't real Christians...or at least a subset of them do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    Why was there ever a need for an Evangelical Advisory Board?
    Theocratic values are important to some people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    Evangelicals don't respect the Pope, they find him to progressive. I'm not even joking here that's how far gone down the rabbit hole bible belt americans are.

    You know why they find him to progressive? The pope doesn't compare gays to animals but actual human beings and while not being for things as gay marriage he did declare and called all Christians to respect and love their neighbor, brother, sister and what not and not shun them, hurt them or whatever lovely thing they love to do to others that aren't part of their club.

    Other things that are too progressive for those type of people, Climate change, not calling for the extermination of other religions and their people like jews and muslims, and until recently not liking Trump his politics and what they also didn't like was his politics being called apocalyptic.


    As for the values, these people have none they are the bottom of the food chain when it comes to religion and merely a few steps up from Islam fundamentalist and mostly because they are probably too fat and lazy to actually commit an act of terror.
    The pope probably believes in those new fangled things like "Fire" and "The Wheel" too.
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    It's basically only the mega church pastors (who are basically CEOs) and high-grossing evangelicals from television that ever supported Trump. The rest were gone, if not at his initial Mexicans statement, definitely by "grab 'em by the pussy." Really makes you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapemask View Post
    The rest were gone, if not at his initial Mexicans statement, definitely by "grab 'em by the pussy." Really makes you think.
    I wish it was as simple as that. One thing we know about evangelicals (any super religious people really) is that they're some of the biggest hypocrites you'll ever meet. They talk the talk, but they don't walk the walk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapemask View Post
    It's basically only the mega church pastors (who are basically CEOs) and high-grossing evangelicals from television that ever supported Trump. The rest were gone, if not at his initial Mexicans statement, definitely by "grab 'em by the pussy." Really makes you think.
    Nah, not sure what churches you went to but one of the ones I went to as a kid had people ranting about black people. His mexicans statement would get a lot fired up in my state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeones View Post
    Nah, not sure what churches you went to but one of the ones I went to as a kid had people ranting about black people. His mexicans statement would get a lot fired up in my state.
    Ah, see, I'm in Georgia, where most of our Christian folk tend to be black southern baptists. That kind of stuff doesn't fly in religious circles around these parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    The guy insulted the pope, which wasn't enough. But, being a Nazi was too much. Good on them...
    Yep.

    Trump can insult Popes, gold star members, demand that the military murder the families of terrorists, call Mexicans "rapists" . . . but they'll draw the line at Nazis.

    Which is good, but . . . why did it take as far as freaking NAZIS for them to react?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Protestants don't have as close an attachment to the Pope as Catholics : P
    Oh, I thought evengelicals covered all denominations. Thanks for the correction! Glad I checked the replies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapemask View Post
    It's basically only the mega church pastors (who are basically CEOs) and high-grossing evangelicals from television that ever supported Trump. The rest were gone, if not at his initial Mexicans statement, definitely by "grab 'em by the pussy." Really makes you think.
    That's false. Trump got the overwhelming majority of the evangelical vote. Indeed he did better than any republican presidential candidate of the past two decades with them.




    Acidbaron was spot on when he called them bottom feeders. They really do love Trump, and that tells you everything you need to know about what sorts of people they are. But there is a bright side.....



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