The 3% of Scientific Papers that Deny Climate Change found to be Biased/Faulty

[Mosotti]

The climate change is obvious. What's not so obvious is the cause. Of course the government can say "IT'S YOU" and make us pay, as it already happens with all kind of taxes that don't fix anything

Also it's not really set in stone what the "scientists" say now. Look at the atom model and how it evolved over the years...

[Caolela]

Oh boy a paper by realclimate claiming other people are biased. Who woulda thought?

They just didn't "claim" they were biased. They actually proved the bias is there.

It's a subtle difference that apparently you missed.

[Themius]

The climate change is obvious. What's not so obvious is the cause. Of course the government can say "IT'S YOU" and make us pay, as it already happens with all kind of taxes that don't fix anything

Also it's not really set in stone what the "scientists" say now. Look at the atom model and how it evolved over the years...

This is your argument? What the fuck is this?

[schwarzkopf]

Ice core studies that goes millions of years

Humans were not around millions of years ago... in fact, we only really came onto the scene 200,000 years ago - and civilisation 10,000 years ago.

Remember - climate change is not a threat to the planet, as you said - the planet has been through worse.

Climate change is a threat to human civilisation.

[Ragedaug]

Being skeptical towards climate change and mankind's contribution to it in 2017. Lul!... But then again, people still believe that the planet is 6000 years old in 2017...

I know, right? There is nothing left to be skeptical about. Man, or more correctly Government, has figured everything out. Now make sure you take your meds THX1138.

[Zeek Daniels]

You know what is also biased/faulty. People who pushed climate change.

[Slant]

Why are you people so obsessed with winning the "I'm right, you're wrong" argument? Why not start threads to talk about possible solutions to climate change instead of starting threads to bash people who are skeptical about it? You don't need them to admit you are right and they are wrong to talk about fixing the problem.

The reason is so the dumb dumbs realize they're dumb dumbs and stop wasting everyone else's time debating these issues. It's kind of like telling the child to go play with his toys when parents are discussing mortgage rates. In the current real world, however, they're not only keeping the child there, they're also seriously listening to its plan to fix the mortgage rates with his own pocket money. Yes, cute... but not really helpful!

[unbound]

https://qz.com/1069298/the-3-of-scie...m_source=atlfb

So basically what happens is that the climate deniers start with flawed methodology, used cherry-picked results, and some even ignored physics altogether. Scientists that found that these flawed studies were not able to be replicated when using proper methodology.

Who knew?

@Endus. I know you dabble in this.

Not surprising at all.

The only climate change skeptic I've ever read about that actually did the real science (literally taking a year to make sure he did it right) changed his mind when presented with the reality he uncovered.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/30/op...c.html?mcubz=3

CALL me a converted skeptic. Three years ago I identified problems in previous climate studies that, in my mind, threw doubt on the very existence of global warming. Last year, following an intensive research effort involving a dozen scientists, I concluded that global warming was real and that the prior estimates of the rate of warming were correct. I’m now going a step further: Humans are almost entirely the cause.

My total turnaround, in such a short time, is the result of careful and objective analysis by the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature project, which I founded with my daughter Elizabeth. Our results show that the average temperature of the earth’s land has risen by two and a half degrees Fahrenheit over the past 250 years, including an increase of one and a half degrees over the most recent 50 years. Moreover, it appears likely that essentially all of this increase results from the human emission of greenhouse gases.

[Ragedaug]

This is your argument? What the fuck is this?

Wait, that is your counter argument? HAHAHA...sorry, that blurted out. Yeah, I just found your reply a bit ironic.

[nacixems]

You know what is also biased/faulty. People who pushed climate change.

Best statement in over 100 posts on this topic. /agree

[Slant]

Is it though? ive seen as much proof that the world is 2 degree's colder now than it was 10,000 years ago and that the warming is just the same cycle that repeated 10,000 years ago and 100,000 years ago and multiple other times in geological history.... as ive seen that OMG WERE MELTING BY 2020 were gonna be underwater WERE ALL GONNA DIE PLEASE MAKE ALL DONATIONS PAYABLE TO THE AL GORE FOUNDATION.


99.999% of the world once believe the world was flat.... think about that for a sec...

And then science came and convinced those 99.999% that the world is a globe instead. And here you are, arguing that 97% of science don't know what they're talking about...

[Ragedaug]

The reason is so the dumb dumbs realize they're dumb dumbs and stop wasting everyone else's time debating these issues. It's kind of like telling the child to go play with his toys when parents are discussing mortgage rates. In the current real world, however, they're not only keeping the child there, they're also seriously listening to its plan to fix the mortgage rates with his own pocket money. Yes, cute... but not really helpful!

Calling someone a "dumb-dumb" has only made everyone ever think the caller is themselves a dumb-dumb..so I can tell you, while you are being really cute, it doesn't actually work, so you are wasting all the time you are investing into not-wasting time.

Seems counter-productive.

[Slant]

Is climate change happening...yes
Is it caused mostly or in part by man....probably
Do we have a responsibility to the planet....absolutely
Should people like Al Gore make millions of $$ off of Climate change and the planet "sickness"....NO!

...and that is where I take issue in the whole climate change...the rich folks making MILLIONS of $$ off of this, how about we just come back around and fix the issue instead of looking at as an opportunity to make money

So... because Al Gore ripped people off, they go in full spite mode and start pretending climate change doesn't exist? They're dumber than I thought...

[Mosotti]

This is your argument? What the fuck is this?

The fuck is this is this: science is not always right. It might take MANY MANY YEARS until they get it right. Climate change science is how old? 10 years old? 20 years old? And you think they have the answer to everything? Poor you. The fuck is this lol

[Ragedaug]

And then science came and convinced those 99.999% that the world is a globe instead. And here you are, arguing that 97% of science don't know what they're talking about...

I would guess that 500 years from now they'll look back at this time and say, "97% of the population didn't really have any clue on how things work". That includes me and that includes scientists. So yeah, Scientists are not infallible, even if they are all congratulating each other on how smart they all are.

[Slant]

I think my favorite part is where you don't have to deny anything to be called a denier. All you need to do is disagree with the Left and you are automatically a "Denier". Sure, it doesn't fit the definition of the word "denier", but it sounds damning, amirite?

Dude, no one is denying the science. They just disagree with your conclusion. And disagreeing with your conclusion doesn't make someone a "Denier". Claiming it does just makes you pretentious.

Nah, it smells like they're deniers that keep fighting a valiant battle of arguments, as if this was a game and they actually stood a chance. It seems the name of the game is "never admit you were not just wrong, but so mindnumbingly stupid wrong that you ought to check in yourself at a mental institution for a serious IQ test determining if you qualify as a human being and not a doorknob."

So they go from "Climat change is a hoax" to "ok, climate change is real, but humans didn't do it, why should we fix it?" to (and I'm projecting into the future here, so forgive me mistakes) "ah, this isn't so bad, earth always had these cycles" and "ok, so we're a little bit responsible, how about we stop increasing CO2?" and "ok, so we'll reduce a bit.. how about we pay some third world country to do double so we don't have to do anything" and finally "oh my, i didn't know canada was a desert... gee, this planet sure changed a lot recently..."

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Yeah, no. That's a dumb example. No is saying climate change is an optical illusion. So what science are the deniers denying? You have to at least start with a base and make an actual claim of something that's being denied before you can claim someone is denying "it".

So, what's being denied?

And yes, it's 100% a Left issue. All of conclusions push the communist/socialist agenda and are completely anti-Capitalism. Soooo...yeah, it's Left.

Wtf, you clearly have no clue whatsoever about... basically anything, do you?

[Ragedaug]

The fuck is this is this: science is not always right. It might take MANY MANY YEARS until they get it right. Climate change science is how old? 10 years old? 20 years old? And you think they have the answer to everything? Poor you. The fuck is this lol

Climate Scientists of the 1970's and 1980's are told us we needed to be very afraid of the impending Ice Age that we are heading towards. The funny/ironic thing is that the 97% of Scientists that now warn of the impending inferno include some of those ice age scientists.

So I guess the Scientists are now the real deniers. I dunno, someones' denying something? Are the Scientists correct now? Were they all correct 30 years ago? All of their predictions from both scenario's have been proven wrong, so.... science?

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Nah, it smells like they're deniers that keep fighting a valiant battle of arguments, as if this was a game and they actually stood a chance. It seems the name of the game is "never admit you were not just wrong, but so mindnumbingly stupid wrong that you ought to check in yourself at a mental institution for a serious IQ test determining if you qualify as a human being and not a doorknob."

So they go from "Climat change is a hoax" to "ok, climate change is real, but humans didn't do it, why should we fix it?" to (and I'm projecting into the future here, so forgive me mistakes) "ah, this isn't so bad, earth always had these cycles" and "ok, so we're a little bit responsible, how about we stop increasing CO2?" and "ok, so we'll reduce a bit.. how about we pay some third world country to do double so we don't have to do anything" and finally "oh my, i didn't know canada was a desert... gee, this planet sure changed a lot recently..."

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Wtf, you clearly have no clue whatsoever about... basically anything, do you?

No YOU are the denier!!

Sorry, that's all I got out of your post, so it seemed like the appropriate response. Now I think it's your turn to tell me I'm the wrong one, and we go back and forth with claims or rightness and wrongness without providing any actual information to back our point.

[Deleted]

ITT: People not understanding science.

It's really upsetting how the scientifically illiterate are the ones who make policy decisions regarding things like climate change. Hopefully my rainy little island will get some sunshine before climate change has us submerged and frozen.

[Slant]

You know what is also biased/faulty. People who pushed climate change.

LOL, I think this is the problem... "people who pushed climate change." :P

Dude, it's not a trend. It didn't happen because someone tweeted about it and that shit went viral. It's happening whether or not you know about it. It's happening whether or not you agree with it. Nobody "pushed" climate change. They warned about it. It's not an agenda. It's people saying "Yo, this is happening... prepare for it."

I'm curious... with Irma fucking Florida in the butthole as we speak, do you think "someone pushed that Hurricance"? Hunt that dude down and punch him in the face, cos he's really causing problems for the people down there.

[Delana]

Especially since every other country in the world but Syria and Nicaragua recognize that Climate Change is happening since they all signed the Paris Climate Accord.

You mean the one that basically demanded the US transfer wealth to everyone else? I wonder why everyone else signed it.