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    The person who refuses to cut his hair and shave his beard does not belong in any political post in UK. I'm completely fine with people opposing that nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tackhisis View Post
    The person who refuses to cut his hair and shave his beard does not belong in any political post in UK. I'm completely fine with people opposing that nonsense.
    I'm intrigued. How does the length of one's hair and the existence of a beard factor into one's qualifications for political office?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinra1 View Post
    Yeah the topic is about both I know but even in the first page someone said something like "I dont know how people can mistake sikhs with muslims....Sikhs are one of the nicest people". The inference here is that Muslims are not very nice which doesn't sit well with me at all.
    In what way is Sikhism better than an Abrahamic faith?
    In general those who practice Sikhism seem to be less assholish than your fundiegelical theocrat or RADICAL AWESOME EXTREME Islamic terrorist.

    Which is the comparison being made. Extreme assholes from 2 faiths VS an everyday Sikh.

    When all you hear about on the news is OMG ISIS IS COMING FOR YOUR GUNS THANKS OBAMA day in day out combined with hardcore conservative Christianity being pushed screaming about ISIS, it portrays both as your average member.

    Kudos to dude for keeping his cool, trying to educate the woman, and now escalating or rising to her assholish behavior. Regardless of his religion, dude done did good.
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    I feel sorry for Sikhs. Mostly because their attire gets them compared to scum by ignorant people.

    Sikh's are great people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tackhisis View Post
    The person who refuses to cut his hair and shave his beard does not belong in any political post in UK. I'm completely fine with people opposing that nonsense.
    I'd rather 100 Sikh Politicians than a clean shaven liar anyday.

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    I guess it shouldn't be surprising that idiots giving into the muslim fearmongering would be confuse Sikh with Muslim given Sikh men embody every outward stereotype I have ever heard regarding Muslims. "Towelhead", beard, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    When all you hear about on the news is OMG ISIS IS COMING FOR YOUR GUNS THANKS OBAMA day in day out combined with hardcore conservative Christianity being pushed screaming about ISIS, it portrays both as your average member.
    What the hell news are you watching? Because that is the polar opposite of what I've seen...
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    Wtf Sikh people are cool. Sod off, weird lady.


    Also I'm fairly sure he wasn't too happy to be called a Muslim. Reminds me of when some news organization asked for permission to use a photo of a Sikh man (this was made very clear) helping victims of the Manchester bombing by being a taxi service, only for them to portray the man as being Muslim.

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    I'm quite sure she did not constantly yell about "sharia law". She also said along the lost lines "Why don't you answer my question?". Of course, everyone else being same like the "big scary dude with microphone" they assume she is just a problem maker, lets ignore her and enter into her face and speak about love and courage.

    Problem is that you can only hear parts while dude on microphone is twice louder. Difference between me and you is that I want to hear both sides and make a judgment and here you can't not hear both sides. My ears are very well, I am just not a sheep to bleat and baah like all other sheep do.

    P.S: Not sure how he is "scary brown dude with beard and turban". He is not scary. In matter of fact, he looks like some self proclaimed guru because "he is nice". /rolleyes
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWay View Post
    I'm quite sure she did not constantly yell about "sharia law". She also said along the lost lines "Why don't you answer my question?". Of course, everyone else being same like the "big scary dude with microphone" they assume she is just a problem maker, lets ignore her and enter into her face and speak about love and courage.

    Problem is that you can only hear parts while dude on microphone is twice louder. Difference between me and you is that I want to hear both sides and make a judgment and here you can't not hear both sides. My ears are very well, I am just not a sheep to bleat and baah like all other sheep do.

    P.S: Not sure how he is "scary brown dude with beard and turban". He is not scary. In matter of fact, he looks like some self proclaimed guru because "he is nice". /rolleyes
    Your hearing must not be as good as you think it's not hard to hear sharia law more then once maybe get your ears checked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    Wtf Sikh people are cool. Sod off, weird lady.


    Also I'm fairly sure he wasn't too happy to be called a Muslim. Reminds me of when some news organization asked for permission to use a photo of a Sikh man (this was made very clear) helping victims of the Manchester bombing by being a taxi service, only for them to portray the man as being Muslim.
    What was very cool of him above all else is he never once said "Lady I'm not a muslim", because he said to do so would've simply shifted her hatred, instead of confronting it head-on as unacceptable regardless of target.

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    She is racist - just because ^^
    Because she's wrongfully accusing a Sikh of being a Muslim because he's brown.

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    You have to do better than going on my ears, because, just hearing "sharia law" does not make one hostile.
    Shouting in somebody's face whilst waving your arms is often viewed as a hostile/aggressive posture

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    Got a little too hippy for me when they answered her aggression with "love". Still, he handled it better than most other politicians who have been heckled.

    The woman though...complete lack of dignity and common sense.
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    So funny, it's the live action version of putting someone on ignore on a forum or chat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWay View Post
    You have to do better than going on my ears, because, just hearing "sharia law" does not make one hostile.

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    She is racist - just because ^^
    One I didn't say she was hostile.

    Two I rewatched the video or not even the full thing just the start, you can clearly hear her say her name is Jennifer she then says we know your in bed with sharia know your in bed with the Muslim brother hood we know because of how you vote.

    And she's racist because she thinks just because the guy his brown he's a Muslim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabrotar View Post
    Yeah sikhs are great have read something about 2 of them had seen 2 people drown in a river and the only way for them to save them was to take off their turban ( which in their religion is forbidden i think) and they did it.

    Just think about that would a muslim (or jew or christian ) ever do something like this?
    It's one of the 5 K's of their religion, which are more like just symbols of devotion to their faith which they are meant to carry with them - but if the situation calls for it they can definitely remove it. The 5 K's actually tell you more about what matters to Sikh's as a religion than their summaries of their religious texts:

    Kesh - a turban (or scarf) - this is meant to symbolize the importance of both knowledge and humility
    Kanga - a comb - meant to symbolize the importance of cleanliness
    Kara - a steel bracelet - meant to symbolize that the teachings of their faith will protect them (is their shield)
    Kachera - cotton underwear - meant to symbolize not getting attached to material things (ex. fancy silk underwear)
    Kirpan - a knife - meant to symbolize protecting the weak (and themselves)

    The moral position of Sikhs are more-or-less undefined, as opposed to Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc - they don't have commandments or etc. The Sikh position is just that there is only one god, he's infinite, he was here before time, he'll be here after time, and all creation/destruction is his willful action. Your purpose in life is to try to understand god, and you do that by meditating and gaining knowledge. There aren't specific commandments, but there is a holy book, which is mostly filled with life pro tips: how best to wash fruit, etc. So you have to figure out who god is, and what they want from you, for yourself - but there are gurus who can help you share their knowledge.

    Perhaps most interesting is their pretty radical position on equality. Sikhism broke away from Hinduism in the 15th century because they didn't believe in a caste system - all people are equal. Further, the Sikh position on women is that they are equal to men, which was pretty contradictory to both the Islamic invasion ruling their part of India at the time, and the Hindu position throughout the rest of India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kail View Post
    Got a little too hippy for me when they answered her aggression with "love". Still, he handled it better than most other politicians who have been heckled.

    The woman though...complete lack of dignity and common sense.
    It's Canada, we're all pretty hippie up here, comparatively speaking
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yvaelle View Post
    It's one of the 5 K's of their religion, which are more like just symbols of devotion to their faith which they are meant to carry with them - but if the situation calls for it they can definitely remove it. The 5 K's actually tell you more about what matters to Sikh's as a religion than their summaries of their religious texts:

    Kesh - a turban (or scarf) - this is meant to symbolize the importance of both knowledge and humility
    Kanga - a comb - meant to symbolize the importance of cleanliness
    Kara - a steel bracelet - meant to symbolize that the teachings of their faith will protect them (is their shield)
    Kachera - cotton underwear - meant to symbolize not getting attached to material things (ex. fancy silk underwear)
    Kirpan - a knife - meant to symbolize protecting the weak (and themselves)

    The moral position of Sikhs are more-or-less undefined, as opposed to Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc - they don't have commandments or etc. The Sikh position is just that there is only one god, he's infinite, he was here before time, he'll be here after time, and all creation/destruction is his willful action. Your purpose in life is to try to understand god, and you do that by meditating and gaining knowledge. There aren't specific commandments, but there is a holy book, which is mostly filled with life pro tips: how best to wash fruit, etc. So you have to figure out who god is, and what they want from you, for yourself - but there are gurus who can help you share their knowledge.

    Perhaps most interesting is their pretty radical position on equality. Sikhism broke away from Hinduism in the 15th century because they didn't believe in a caste system - all people are equal. Further, the Sikh position on women is that they are equal to men, which was pretty contradictory to both the Islamic invasion ruling their part of India at the time, and the Hindu position throughout the rest of India.

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    It's Canada, we're all pretty hippie up here, comparatively speaking
    Great people as i already know but thanks for explaining more of the details.

    All in all seems like a way way better religion than the 4 great ones aka muslims, christians. jews and hindus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWay View Post
    She is racist - just because ^^
    Did you watch the video? If you did it's not hard to understand that she is definitely racist.

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    Confusing Sikhs with Muslim... my face is forever imprinted with the image of my hand.
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