Who is the grand leader of Alliance?

[Aquamonkey]

That's a retarded reason to put an inexperienced child in as military dictator for life.

But it worked so well with Garrosh.

[Magnagarde]

Anduin is, but he has a rather wide array of advisors that guide him in military, political and all other types of affairs(ie Greymane, Velen and so on), whereas Varian was usually the one calling the shots on his own without being influenced from the outside.

[Deleted]

Agree. Besides we don't know how good Genn at warcraft. Also don't forget Halford Wyrmbane - guy leads 7th Legion since WoTLK.

Actually, good you reminded me, Halford Wyrmbane, the leader of the 7th Legion, the guy actually led the best force of all races within the Alliance. And, in return, he was left to rot in a battleground on some frozen island in Northrend.

Anduin works for a symbolic reason. He is the symbol of hope of what one day he would become. All the other experienced leaders are there to advise him.

Of what he would become? Someone who is willing to save a genocidal maniac from certain death and not feel bad when said maniac starts a chain of events killing who knows how many?
Or someone who would go to a Legion frontline (the Broken Front) just to see how things are, ignoring his own safety even if he's not really battle hardened. What would he have done, talked to the demons if they appeared?

No, Anduin is a naive boy thinking everything is butterflies and rainbows. It's not. Sometimes you need to poison the food supplies of the enemy. Sometimes you need to assassinate someone when they least expect it. And some deeds are unforgivable.

[Jorah]

Actually, good you reminded me, Halford Wyrmbane, the leader of the 7th Legion, the guy actually led the best force of all races within the Alliance. And, in return, he was left to rot in a battleground on some frozen island in Northrend.

IIRC he was in war with Forsaken when 7th deployed at Gilneas during Cataclysm.

Alliance also have another guy for SAC position - Darius Crowley.

[Khirok]

Just finished running an alt through Val'Sharah and remembered how much of a whiny little baby he is, I will have to disagree lol.

That whining wasn't Malfurion. Those were illusions by Xavius to egg Tyrande on.

[Wyrt]

Anduin is, but he has a rather wide array of advisors that guide him in military, political and all other types of affairs(ie Greymane, Velen and so on), whereas Varian was usually the one calling the shots on his own without being influenced from the outside.

Why would you make someone leader who can't even wipe his own ass without advisors helping him?

[silverdragon234]

Tyrande should be high queen of the Grand Alliance, 'cause Anduin isn't old enough to be its leader.

[Wildmoon]

That's a retarded reason to put an inexperienced child in as military dictator for life.

It's not supposed to be a valid reason. It's supposed to be just a reason. Not every decision in both fiction and real world is made optimally.

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Of what he would become? Someone who is willing to save a genocidal maniac from certain death and not feel bad when said maniac starts a chain of events killing who knows how many?
Or someone who would go to a Legion frontline (the Broken Front) just to see how things are, ignoring his own safety even if he's not really battle hardened. What would he have done, talked to the demons if they appeared?

No, Anduin is a naive boy thinking everything is butterflies and rainbows. It's not. Sometimes you need to poison the food supplies of the enemy. Sometimes you need to assassinate someone when they least expect it. And some deeds are unforgivable.

Except he is growing and with the direction Blizzard is taking with him he will become someone important. That's just almost inevitable. Beside someone with virtues like Anduin has a lot of room to grow because he has the qualities needed to ground him in reasonable moral basis. Learning to be more efficient here and there is not something impossible. Contrary to popular beliefs, morally decent leaders are preferable. And Anduin is very wise for his age. He saw why Velen was a joke before Illidan told Velen.

Mistakes do not cement you as forever associated that traits derived from making them.

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Why would you make someone leader who can't even wipe his own ass without advisors helping him?

The same reason there have been incapable leaders throughout the history. Competence only does not determine who is given positions of power.

Malfurion doesn't care enough.
Tyrande likely will not take the position because she will be occupied with her own race.
Genn and Velen likely want to babysit Anduin.

Anduin is like the least awkward choice out there if there has to be the leader of the AA. He is already the leader of humans which make up the bulk of the AA forces. He is also too young which gives the other leaders excuses to not give him full command over all sorts of decisions relevant to the AA as whole. The fact that Anduin is open and in need of advises from other leaders is a plus for him concerning being selected for the leader because he becomes an equilibrium for which other leaders can assert influence without looking like they want the position for themselves.

[yetgdhfgh]

Seriously why does the supreme commander have to be a racial leader?

FDR wasn't the Supreme Commander neither was King George VI! Elect someone from the fucking military why don't you!!

Who am i kidding iam horde and iam glad the boy king is now your supreme leader!!!

[The Stormbringer]

The Alliance doesn't need a High King, imo. The Horde more greatly values strength and valor in battle, but the Alliance has always had more of a Council approach to their issues. I can see the faction leaders or their representatives coming together to discuss matters, debate their leader's point of view, then go back with news and such.

[Wyrt]

The Alliance doesn't need a High King, imo. The Horde more greatly values strength and valor in battle, but the Alliance has always had more of a Council approach to their issues. I can see the faction leaders or their representatives coming together to discuss matters, debate their leader's point of view, then go back with news and such.

Blizzard gave the Alliance High King in MoP so they could be lazy with the Alliance story and just have humans do everything while they made in depth story for almost every Horde race during that expansion.

[Aquamonkey]

Blizzard gave the Alliance High King in MoP so they could be lazy with the Alliance story and just have humans do everything while they made in depth story for almost every Horde race during that expansion.

Politics of Alliance: Friendship is magic!
Politics of Horde: Everything is on fire.

[Wyrt]

Politics of Alliance: Friendship is magic!
Politics of Horde: Everything is on fire.

Especially now that Anduin is High King. I'm surprised he isn't yelling at us to stop being mean to the demons.

[yetgdhfgh]

Politics of Alliance: Friendship is magic!
Politics of Horde: Everything is on fire.

Ive always said if Alliance and Horde was TV shows it would be..

Alliance: Wholesome family sitcom with cheap studio laughs
Horde: Car crash TV with extra explosions!!

[Lochton]

It should have been malfurion imo

Malfurion isn't a good option for the Alliance.

I think by being the heir, Anduin. Else, I would more say we're at a council state at the moment.

[karumayu]

There should be no grand leader of the Alliance. A military figurehead for all the Alliance forces, sure. In Legion, we see Genn and Velen playing the roles of advisors to Anduin as he is still untested. The new short that involves Anduin have really fleshed him out quite a bit and addressed the issue of him being compared to Varian. Hopefully we can keep seeing the variety of Alliance leaders chipping in and the alliance does not become a blue horde once again.

[nothingsjim]

None right now, but I think in the future this spot will go to Turalyon. Why else would Blizzard bring him back at such timing, right after the previous leader of Alliance died?

And then a bunch of people on forum will start complaining how it doesn't make sense since he's gone for so long and have no experience in dealing with recent event in Azeroth, and he needs time to adapt etcetc. But face it, it's Blizzard writing we're dealing with, not some top-notch fantasy writers.

[Magnagarde]

Why would you make someone leader who can't even wipe his own ass without advisors helping him?

Because he is also easier to control for your own cause? Because Alliance are the average noble fantasy goodies that don't mind it and have patience guiding him? There is a lot to it depending from which angle you look at it.

What I like about it is that, unlike the Horde, the Alliance stays true to its origin and foundations. The Horde needs more of what it was in the past because Blizzard is trying to make the Horde more like the Alliance and vice versa.

[Wyrt]

Because he is also easier to control for your own cause? Because Alliance are the average noble fantasy goodies that don't mind it and have patience guiding him? There is a lot to it depending from which angle you look at it.

What I like about it is that, unlike the Horde, the Alliance stays true to its origin and foundations. The Horde needs more of what it was in the past because Blizzard is trying to make the Horde more like the Alliance and vice versa.

lol

Turning the Alliance into the Stormwind Empire is keeping the Alliance true to its origins? What?

[Magnagarde]

lol

Turning the Alliance into the Stormwind Empire is keeping the Alliance true to its origins? What?

What Stormwind empire lol just because his title is High King doesn't mean they all blindly follow him like the Sith emperor