Ask Trump what he meant by both sides? Maybe ask the alt-right posting videos of how this was a success? Maybe the same group that those claiming protestors asked for it?
If you are having troubles figuring it out, don't for a second pretend anything I say will change that. Listen to your emperor of Kek instead...
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
That's not at all the same thing. I asked him to present figures, not link a source. He could have presented his own figures. My point was that he was making an argument based in numbers, without providing any.
I never said I have NEVER asked for a source, just that it's not my thing. You are reading way too much in to what I said, while still not getting the obvious fucking point. My point was that source please is not a winning argument; it's presenting someone else's argument.
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Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Yup, of course that was it. Would you say that presenting figures to you was presenting proof? Because that's what Edge said to you, you ask for proof of things but refuse to provide any yourself. You then said you never ask for sources which are different things but you replied as though they were the same.
Irrelevant to what exactly? We were talking about Manafort; that is certainly relevant to his fate.
Yeah, yeah, and those re-openings of Clinton investigations and new subpoenas as well as immunities handed left and right were "because they were trying to get bigger fish, Clinton, and had a solid lead. You don't just hand immunities if you don't!". Totally.This line would work better if there wasn't mounting evidence that the investigation is getting stronger. You don't pick a lock on a no-knock warrant because "she turned me into a newt, I got better" was said.
You're mirror copies of each other, really.
And now you're applauding exactly the same against Trump. Normalising his approach.And finally, I'll remind you this is not just "the other side does it". Trump stood and basket in the LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP! chants and then threatened to prosecute her to her face. He didn't just "use" it, he applauded it, he reveled in it. Trump threw those rules out. You can't use them to defend him, or his fanbase, anymore. I don't make the rules. Neither do you.
Do you understand it?
The BLM members were running from his gunshots, just like everyone else. People who went to participate and do exactly what everyone else was doing, do represent the group. Just like those hundreds of BLM members diving for their lives, represent BLM members, more than the guy shooting.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Meh. Whatever. Either way, on this board, there is ZERO point in linking anything, because they will just hand wave it away. But, I'm not here to win any battles anyway; I just want to discuss things. I'm amazed you can't follow this concept, because to me it's pretty simple.
Your pathetic.
You defend the most dishonest things regardless of facts based on party doctrine rather than what is right for the Country. You would find gainful employment under Adolf Hitler and Heinrich Himmler. Now here and again, you showcase why you should not be a Moderator with your asinine zealotry and lack of intelligence. The logic you employ is much like a Mafia Thug claiming: "I didn't put the guy in the car with explosives. I was just wiring the explosives to go off."
The FBI knew Manafort did business at Trump Tower. Ergo logic dictates Trump Tower was wiretapped, even if Trump himself was not in his private apartment. Incidental information is still information attained to attack a candidate so as to uplift another. Moreover Trump had regular contact with Manafort. His part in dialogues was unmasked as I understand as well.
Ergo, anyone claiming it wasn't intended is just a Alt-Left zealot with the same scruples as Harry Reid. "Dishonest, yes but we won the election." Another good reason why Democrats must never reclaim power. This morality is their nature. Victory at any cost, even if one must abuse their power to do so.
Anything Trump has done is secondary to this. Obama and Clapper must be held accountable for this.
If Trump is smart he will also purge every single person in the FBI who was hired by Obama, and then fire Mueller.
It will all trace back to them. I am calling it now.
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If you've been paying attention to youtube, you'd know that they're demonetizing videos left and right that could be construed as controversial. Youtubers call it the "adpocalypse" and the second wave of it is occurring now (the previous one happened not long after Pewdiepie got those kids to hold up a sign saying "Death to all Jews") Hell, Sam Seder has had a lot of videos demonetized and he's pretty left wing. I don't know the specifics about TYT but they make a lot of money off of their own site/subscription model so they'd be less likely to complain if they have a video demonetized and they don't seem to be the type to comment on youtube-meta stuff. Afaik, Sargon has had a few videos demonetized because of the Destiny drama, where he just took clips from Destiny's video and put them in a video, with no commentary and adding nothing to it.
This makes no sense at all. Manafort was tapped before he ever was hired by Trump. The question you should be asking, is why Trump hired a guy that was under surveillance? On top of that, Manafort was fired well before Trump's victory. Making your claim even more bizarre... Obama was not wiretapping Trump tower, they were tapping Manafort for his involvement with Russia, but Trump chose him anyway.
Just to be clear... Trump hired a guy that was tapped, due to his dealings with Russia. Just like he hired Flynn, despite him being fired by previous administration, to only find out he lied about being involved with Russia.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Despite all your words you really don't say that much. You claim Trump tower was wiretapped. Is Trump tower Trump? Is he a giant transformer who turns in to a building? No, I believe he is not a giant transformer who turns in to a building. Trump wasn't wiretapped as he claimed. If he was recorded because he was also in to shady shit, that's on him. He wasn't the target of a wiretap and Obama didn't even order this wiretap. Nobody thinks you're making sense. You can't believe you're making sense.
And FURTHERMORE it was a god damned judge issued wiretap. Nobody is going to prison for anything.
While you live, shine / Have no grief at all / Life exists only for a short while / And time demands its toll.
Made a small set of corrections to clarify. Point of fact, anyone doing business at Trump Tower is reasonably going to be in contact with Candidate Trump. Again intent here is the key point. What was the intent? The intent was likely in a roundabout and shifty way to gather intelligence on Donald Trump to the benefit of Hillary Clinton. Anyone claiming otherwise is just saying that because they don't give a damn about the rules except when they can benefit them.
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Yeah yeah, Democrats will do anything to hold onto power. We know already man. We know.
Break California and Texas into 5 smaller states if your so confident the people are on your side. Then we'll talk.
I could not be more aware of this issue. But you seem to be unaware of the fact that some are being excluded from it, and they are all on the left (among politics pages). Google is very plainly exerting their own political ideology, via promotion of left leaning channels, and exempting them from demonetization rules. If it was truly all about appeasing ad buyers, they would ban ALL politics channels, as they divide customers in to two.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...iretapped.html
I feel the need to remind some folks in this thread - the Jeff Sessions led Department of Justice publicly confirmed that they have no evidence that Trump Tower itself was wiretapped at the order of Obama.
Translation: Trumps claim was, unsurprisingly, complete bullshit.