PlayStation Boss Confirms What We Already Know: The Vita is Effectively Dead

[Jtbrig7390]

If exclusives are the only thing propping them up then their death is in every gamer's best interests.

We should all be using cross compatible software/hardware whether it's in the form of a traditional PC, a laptop or a console. The fact we still aren't in 2017 is a tragedy.

You do realize each platform including PC lives on the fact of what it can do that's exclusive compared other platforms right? Competition breeds innovation. There is so many games that wouldn't be made if it wasn't for Nintendo,Sony and even Microsoft.

You don't want a monopoly in anything in life, Hell the US's current BS with ISP's is a perfect example on why you don't. Only the foolish would want to see consoles shutdown. Take a wild guess what goes with them, Many many game studios.

[nyc81991]

It's a shame that Sony with the PlayStation and Microsoft with the Xbox think that pushing consoles that can only barely run 4k (and also 1080p) games at roughly 30 fps are actually worth more than what they could do with a handheld.

[VyersReaver]

RIP, The Vita was/is a amazing system just blogged down by stupid choices.

It is amazing. I love P5G on it, and all the Disgaea games I can play on it (PSP ones and PSVita ones as well). I wish that it would be worked more on though, last 3 years only indies really came out for it.

[Mormolyce]

You do realize each platform including PC lives on the fact of what it can do that's exclusive compared other platforms right? Competition breeds innovation. There is so many games that wouldn't be made if it wasn't for Nintendo,Sony and even Microsoft.

You don't want a monopoly in anything in life, Hell the US's current BS with ISP's is a perfect example on why you don't. Only the foolish would want to see consoles shutdown. Take a wild guess what goes with them, Many many game studios.

The PC does not live on its exclusives, and as I said if exclusives are the only thing propping up the PS and XBox then they should die.

Competition should be over the games not over which console you have to buy in order to play them.

And come on, innovation? The PS/XBox war has if anything demonstrated the opposite. Nintendo paradoxically innovates its consoles and not its games...

You should be able to play anything on anything, and if consoles want to distinguish themselves it should be on the features and design of the consoles themselves and not on the games that are tied to them. At the moment, PS and XBox are essentially identical and they use exclusives as their only meaningful point of difference. Exactly the opposite of the way it should be.

[Jtbrig7390]

The PC does not live on its exclusives, and as I said if exclusives are the only thing propping up the PS and XBox then they should die.

Competition should be over the games not over which console you have to buy in order to play them.

And come on, innovation? The PS/XBox war has if anything demonstrated the opposite. Nintendo paradoxically innovates its consoles and not its games...

You should be able to play anything on anything, and if consoles want to distinguish themselves it should be on the features and design of the consoles themselves and not on the games that are tied to them.

1) Lots of exclusives on consoles are funded by Sony,Microsoft,Nintendo. Ever heard of first party titles?
2) PC does live on exclusives, Windows Vs Mac Vs Linux. Windows holds a HUGE monopoly on the PC market and we see how that hurts it. Linux runs 10x better but yet is on less then 5% of PC's in the world and lacks a lot of support when it comes to gaming.
3) How has Sony or Microsoft not innovated this gen? Sony released the PSVR and Microsoft released Buy and Own where if you buy there first party titles on there console you own the PC version. Microsoft also made (while shitty in the end) the Kinect 2. Sony made PSNow and it being the first true Netflix style of game streaming.
4) How has Nintendo not innovated its games? Have you not looked at Splatoon, Mario odyssey, Breath of the Wild. There is many ways those games have innovated compared to there past titles.

5) Exclusives are a feature with consoles. We wouldn't have games like Halo,Gears,Froza if it wasn't for Microsoft. We wouldn't have games like The Last of Us, God of War, Spiderman (The upcoming one), Day's Gone if it wasn't for Sony.

If its timed exclusives that piss you off then I agree, Those are shit. But true exclusives, games that is funded by those company's are a good thing.

You just want to scream (exclusives are bad) and not look at the positive they bring. Once again many gaming company's wouldn't even be around if it wasn't for the big 3.

That's all ill say about that because this thread isn't about platform exclusives.

[Tech614]

The PC does not live on its exclusives

Looks at top played PC games...

Sure thing bruh. In fact it seems PC gaming lives more off exclusives then any console does outside of Nintendo.

I always love the argument of wanting consoles to go away to get rid of exclusives. If playstation doesn't exist then neither does Uncharted, TLOU, GoW, GT, Horizon, Infamous etc. Sony can afford to produce the raw amount of games they do because they're supporting their hardware. Same with Nintendo. Sony and Nintendo also regularly fund projects that are not going to be major sellers and best case scenario make meager profits just for the sake of building good will in their eco system.

Those games don't magically appear on PC without the consoles, they disappear entirely.

[Mormolyce]

Looks at top played PC games...

Sure thing bruh. In fact it seems PC gaming lives more off exclusives then any console does outside of Nintendo.

I always love the argument of wanting consoles to go away to get rid of exclusives. If playstation doesn't exist then neither does Uncharted, TLOU, GoW, GT, Horizon, Infamous etc. Sony can afford to produce the raw amount of games they do because they're supporting their hardware. Same with Nintendo. Sony and Nintendo also regularly fund projects that are not going to be major sellers and best case scenario make meager profits just for the sake of building good will in their eco system.

Those games don't magically appear on PC without the consoles, they disappear entirely.

You really think the many and various makers of PCs would all stop making them if there weren't any games exclusive to PCs?

I'm not talking about getting rid of consoles to get rid of exclusives. I'm saying get rid of exclusives and if consoles can't survive without them, then good riddance.

People want consoles because they want a dedicated gaming machine in their lounge room. They don't WANT to buy a console they don't necessarily like just because they want to play a particular game. Take away exclusives and consoles will have to justify their existence on their own merits.

[Jester Joe]

I got about 30 games on mine and soon to add one more (Undertale CE). IMO The Vita is the perfect system to play Undertale.

I can name all the ones I have hah

Persona 4 Golden, Steins;Gate, Steins;Gate 0, Disgaea 3, FFX/X-2, Persona 4 Dancing All Night. (Steins;Gate/X-2 being digital only, so not games in the case).

There's more I could pick up of course though (Disgaea 4 for example). I'm not gonna knock the Vita, it has some really solid titles that make it worth picking up.

[Mormolyce]

1) Lots of exclusives on consoles are funded by Sony,Microsoft,Nintendo. Ever heard of first party titles?
2) PC does live on exclusives, Windows Vs Mac Vs Linux. Windows holds a HUGE monopoly on the PC market and we see how that hurts it. Linux runs 10x better but yet is on less then 5% of PC's in the world and lacks a lot of support when it comes to gaming.
3) How has Sony or Microsoft not innovated this gen? Sony released the PSVR and Microsoft released Buy and Own where if you buy there first party titles on there console you own the PC version. Microsoft also made (while shitty in the end) the Kinect 2. Sony made PSNow and it being the first true Netflix style of game streaming.
4) How has Nintendo not innovated its games? Have you not looked at Splatoon, Mario odyssey, Breath of the Wild. There is many ways those games have innovated compared to there past titles.

5) Exclusives are a feature with consoles. We wouldn't have games like Halo,Gears,Froza if it wasn't for Microsoft. We wouldn't have games like The Last of Us, God of War, Spiderman (The upcoming one), Day's Gone if it wasn't for Sony.

If its timed exclusives that piss you off then I agree, Those are shit. But true exclusives, games that is funded by those company's are a good thing.

You just want to scream (exclusives are bad) and not look at the positive they bring. Once again many gaming company's wouldn't even be around if it wasn't for the big 3.

That's all ill say about that because this thread isn't about platform exclusives.

1) First let's take MS out of that equation, since most of their games wind up on PC anyway and arguably a PC release is just as much a "first party title" as an XBox one. Nintendo actually DO innovate on their hardware and differentiate themselves from their competition, so they would still have a niche in a world without exclusives. PS and XBox are essentially identical these days.
2) No argument from me on the PC OS market, but you're talking about software there not hardware.
3) Surely this is satire.
4) I was really just repeating a meme there, my point was more that they innovate in their hardware much more than the other two and it's just ironic that their exclusives are essentially the 400th installment of the Mario and Zelda franchises. Yes I know that in reality they DO have other games outside their mainstays that are more innovative.
5) I call complete bullshit on that. If they weren't exclusives then the market for those games would be LARGER. Sony Interactive etc would simply develop for all platforms.

This has nothing to do with me being pissy about exclusives. I can easily afford to pick up a console if I want to play those games, and usually do. What I'm saying is that they do not do anything good for anyone other than the companies that sell the consoles, who want to establish brand loyalty without having to simply make a better console than their competitors. And it is one of the reasons why every generation has seen PS and XBox become less and less innovative and more alike.

[Krawu]

"Folks of Nintendo have their strategy"

What a load of bullshit.

Its just idiotic consumers still buying the same games made on repeat by Nintendo, especially Pokemon.

Yes i loved the games when i was 13 back in 2000 but the fact Nintendo refuses to move their games on other platforms is the only reason it sells.

Took 10 years to get a Monster Hunter PC game in the west because of that.

Wont take long before they start selling games for Smartphones instead of their handheld the way things are going, whether they like it or not.

Yeah right. I wouldn't call myself a Nintendo fanboy, but in my mind Nintendos consoles are the only ones worth buying any more. I'm not interested in CoD or BF iteration #4752, and most games on XBox or PS4 are also available on PC. There is the odd exclusive, but they're not numerous and not interesting enough to justify purchasing a whole console just to play them. Watching a let's play is usually just as good, because the gameplay rarely takes center stage and the game would've been better off as a movie.

With Nintendo, almost all the games are console exclusives, because they're either first or second party. And unlike the poor devs who are forced to shit out one of each of the "major" games every year(sports games, CoD, BF AC etc.) Nintendo doesn't launch their major titles as a buggy mess until they get patched into a playable state over the next 6-12 months. Because they have dev times ranging from 3-5 years, not 1, and it really shows.
Oh and they don't turn their games into shitty online casinos for minors (loot boxes for $$$ anyone?).

So it's not that I like Nintendo just because they're Nintendo, but because the other brands have done everything in their power to drive me away as a customer over the past 10 years.. At least Sony still makes decent TVs.

[Yriel]

Consoles are vastly more affordable than a gaming PC. If you kill consoles you are asking to kill a big segment of the consumer base, shrink the potential revenues and thus reduce the number of games released and the budget size of those games.

Not if you buy a PC with the hardware specs of consoles. And yes then you have to downscale your games to console level in the options but in the end it's still the same.

[Jtbrig7390]

Not if you buy a PC with the hardware specs of consoles. And yes then you have to downscale your games to console level in the options but in the end it's still the same.

If you bought a PC with the same spec's as a PS4 it would.

1) Cost more.
2) Not run games as good.

Consoles can utilize hardware much better because there is barely any overhead compared to PC's. You won't get a PC running Witcher 3 at the same quality as console on the same hardware.

You also won't be building a $250 PC that beats a PS4 or even equals a PS4.

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I can name all the ones I have hah

Persona 4 Golden, Steins;Gate, Steins;Gate 0, Disgaea 3, FFX/X-2, Persona 4 Dancing All Night. (Steins;Gate/X-2 being digital only, so not games in the case).

There's more I could pick up of course though (Disgaea 4 for example). I'm not gonna knock the Vita, it has some really solid titles that make it worth picking up.

How is dancing all night? I was going to grab it with the Vita skin but it turns out Gamestop just had the box and no game lol.

[Chemii]

"Folks of Nintendo have their strategy"

What a load of bullshit.

Its just idiotic consumers still buying the same games made on repeat by Nintendo, especially Pokemon.

Yes i loved the games when i was 13 back in 2000 but the fact Nintendo refuses to move their games on other platforms is the only reason it sells.

Took 10 years to get a Monster Hunter PC game in the west because of that.

Wont take long before they start selling games for Smartphones instead of their handheld the way things are going, whether they like it or not.

You realise Nintendo makes more than Sony right? That's pretty staggering considering all the shit Sony has its hands in.

I don't think they'll be changing strategy anytime soon.

[Deleted]

I can name all the ones I have hah

Persona 4 Golden, Steins;Gate, Steins;Gate 0, Disgaea 3, FFX/X-2, Persona 4 Dancing All Night. (Steins;Gate/X-2 being digital only, so not games in the case).

There's more I could pick up of course though (Disgaea 4 for example). I'm not gonna knock the Vita, it has some really solid titles that make it worth picking up.

If you want some recommendations, I'd say if you enjoyed P4G and P4DAN I highly recommend the P3P and both Persona 2 (EP, IS) PSP-Ports. If you also enjoyed Disgaea 3, I highly recommend getting "Disgaea 4: A Promise Revisited", "Disgaea Infinite", "Disgaea: Afternoon of Darkness".

If Steins Gate is your thing, get the Zero Escape-Series (999, Virtue's Last Reward: Complete Collection, Zero Time Dilemma). All of those Games get on sales, so keep your eyes open for it . The Operation Abyss New Tokyo Series, Danganronpa Series (My fav: Another Episode: Ultra Despair Girls) might also sound like something that could be of interest to you.

[Mormolyce]

Consoles are vastly more affordable than a gaming PC. If you kill consoles you are asking to kill a big segment of the consumer base, shrink the potential revenues and thus reduce the number of games released and the budget size of those games.

Or people would simply make console equivalents using open architecture, or at the least scaled down PCs, and the market would be much more competitive when it's not being dominated by the big two who are trying to lock in their base with compatibility limitations. Kind of like IBM compatibles back in the 80s.

[dope_danny]

I dont joke when i say the gal gun 2 switch announcement was the nail in the coffin. If the creepy anime bullshit genre is dropping the vita for the switch then the life support has been turned off. I love my Vita and know plenty of people that want one but are putt off by paying the price of the hardware again for a proprietary memory card but i never expected much after the last year. Its got great games, its a great handheld but the memory card prices completely killed it.

[Jtbrig7390]

I dont joke when i say the gal gun 2 switch announcement was the nail in the coffin. If the creepy anime bullshit genre is dropping the vita for the switch then the life support has been turned off. I love my Vita and know plenty of people that want one but are putt off by paying the price of the hardware again for a proprietary memory card but i never expected much after the last year. Its got great games, its a great handheld but the memory card prices completely killed it.

I don't see the Vita losing that support anytime soon to be honest because those games also get a PS4 port. They are not demanding at all and hell there is even more set to come out soon.

Its still getting indie support as well.

[Lahis]

Is the Vita even in production anymore?

[Jtbrig7390]

Is the Vita even in production anymore?

Nope hasn't been for a couple years now.

[Devilyaki]

I agree with them. People only bought the switch for Zelda lol it could of been on anything..