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  1. #1241
    Quote Originally Posted by Keihndeth View Post
    Void Elves are possible out of nowhere,.
    someone didnt play legion

  2. #1242
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ristow View Post
    someone didnt play legion
    Alleria is the only one in Legion. Where did she find the time to train more?

  3. #1243
    Quote Originally Posted by Valerin View Post
    Alleria is the only one in Legion. Where did she find the time to train more?
    during the server maintenance of course

  4. #1244
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ristow View Post
    during the server maintenance of course
    10/10 story right there

  5. #1245
    Quote Originally Posted by Ristow View Post
    someone didnt play legion
    I'm playing it as we speak. Alleria being a single High Elf who learns to wield the void, which has only been done by two people (her and Locus Walker), does not equal an entire race. It cheapens the lore even further, if thats even possible after the WoD fiasco.

  6. #1246
    Quote Originally Posted by Friendlyimmolation View Post
    It would make them more likely to be playable yes, but then they wouldn't be high elves who are defined by being the very same thing blood elves are just with blue eyes. Unless the mutations were due to void energy, but those aren't usually pretty.
    But based on Thalyssra, the nightborne are also still night elves , yet artists gave them different faces and body types.

  7. #1247
    Quote Originally Posted by Keihndeth View Post
    I'm playing it as we speak. Alleria being a single High Elf who learns to wield the void, which has only been done by two people (her and Locus Walker), does not equal an entire race. It cheapens the lore even further, if thats even possible after the WoD fiasco.
    well i'm sure they make up some story during pre patch or something like that to justify the others void elf, about the nightborne they are a fell too right? (i hate suramar all shits that come from that place)

  8. #1248
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keihndeth View Post
    I'm playing it as we speak. Alleria being a single High Elf who learns to wield the void, which has only been done by two people (her and Locus Walker), does not equal an entire race. It cheapens the lore even further, if thats even possible after the WoD fiasco.
    Indeed, and it also takes away what makes Alleria special at the moment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Andromedes View Post
    But based on Thalyssra, the nightborne are also still night elves , yet artists gave them different faces and body types.
    I agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andromedes View Post
    But based on Thalyssra, the nightborne are also still night elves , yet artists gave them different faces and body types.
    Because they were having the eye of Amanthul slam dark arcane energy through them every second of their lives for ten thousand years. High elves and blood elves are the exact same race with no time for either to change, sans most blood elves having green eyes, something that in time will be cleansed by the sunwell either way.
    Quote Originally Posted by WoWKnight65 View Post
    That's same excuse from you and so many others on this website and your right some of threads do bully high elf fans to a point where they might end up losing their minds to a point of a mass shooting.
    Holy shit lol

  10. #1250
    Quote Originally Posted by Ristow View Post
    well i'm sure they make up some story during pre patch or something like that to justify the others void elf, about the nightborne they are a fell too right? (i hate suramar all shits that come from that place)
    The problem is that any story they can possible come up with is going to be half-baked, like time-traveling to an alternate reality Draenor. The only way it ends is badly.

  11. #1251
    Heh just read a post on Blizzard forums on who we want to see as a Allied Race and guess who is still being listed by a lot of players. High Elves. The campaign is hardly over despite what the never elfers say, sure some not really fans of High Elves will be excited about playing hot topic elves, but those of us who were asking for High Elves in the first place will keep asking for them. And the population argument that I still see being had here is pointless guys, don't even entertain the anti high elfers with arguments. That point was set to the flames with the introduction of Void Elves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twinbros2 View Post
    Heh just read a post on Blizzard forums on who we want to see as a Allied Race and guess who is still being listed by a lot of players. High Elves. The campaign is hardly over despite what the never elfers say, sure some not really fans of High Elves will be excited about playing hot topic elves, but those of us who were asking for High Elves in the first place will keep asking for them. And the population argument that I still see being had here is pointless guys, don't even entertain the anti high elfers with arguments. That point was set to the flames with the introduction of Void Elves.
    Its funny how you realize the population argument got burned, but are unable to see that the void elves also burned down the high elf argument too.

    Blizzard went out of their way to not give you high elves, after telling you no for years. They gave you void elves instead, the message doesn't get more clear than that.

    to top it off you admit it whether you like it or not the only argument you have is your feelings, which Faction balance and identity care nothing for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WoWKnight65 View Post
    That's same excuse from you and so many others on this website and your right some of threads do bully high elf fans to a point where they might end up losing their minds to a point of a mass shooting.
    Holy shit lol

  13. #1253
    Quote Originally Posted by Friendlyimmolation View Post
    Because they were having the eye of Amanthul slam dark arcane energy through them every second of their lives for ten thousand years. High elves and blood elves are the exact same race with no time for either to change, sans most blood elves having green eyes, something that in time will be cleansed by the sunwell either way.
    So nighborne females are slightly curvier because nightwell? k

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    Ah ha ha haha Ha hA ha!
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    AH HA HA HAHA HA HA HAAAAAAAAA!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andromedes View Post
    So nighborne females are slightly curvier because nightwell? k
    Did you play legion at all? The nightwell mutated them, of course they look different from normal night elves.

    Blood elves and high elves look the damn same, hell some blood elves even have blue eyes.
    Quote Originally Posted by WoWKnight65 View Post
    That's same excuse from you and so many others on this website and your right some of threads do bully high elf fans to a point where they might end up losing their minds to a point of a mass shooting.
    Holy shit lol

  16. #1256
    I made a topic in the Blizzard official forums about Void Elves, High Elves and "what could have been", making three alternate possible paths Blizzard could have taken instead. Of course, I don't expect Blizzard to change their plans, I just want to spark discussion about the issue. Give a look and reply. Also thumb it up if you like the ideas there.

    https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759181851#1

    Void elves, high elves and what could have been

    Hi there.

    As many of you are aware, the announcement of "void elves" among allied races in BfA has been a controversial topic in the comunity. Since then, we have discovered little about them besides that they are blood elves who were exiled for dabbling into the void magic.

    The big controversy was sparked because the addition of this "crack elite squad of elves" as a new race went against the 12-year-long requests of high elves being added to the Alliance. Unlike the void elves, who never existed in lore before (and still haven't been introduced in canon), we have high elves helping the Alliance since vanilla, with strong presence of them in expansions like WotLK, MoP and Legion.

    When asked about high elves, Blizzard and the opposers of the idea in the comunity will usually bring the following reasons to not add them:

    - They are "too alike" blood elves (or "they are blood elves")
    - They are too few in number

    The addition of void elves show that both excuses do not matter. If high elves, which number at least 1/9 of the blood elf population, are too few in number, how can a "crack elite squad" of exiled blood elves be more numerous?

    And, besides being goth, how can you say they are different enough form blood elves? They are exiled blood elves, just like the high elves were exiled by their kin.

    The reason people are rejecting void elves and still asking high elves is simple: Blizzard has no idea WHY we wanted high elves in the first place. High elves, at their core, are defined (and separated from Blood Elves) by the fact that they rejected the teachings of Kael'thas. Despite overwhelming odds, they chose to keep their integrity and reject the seduction of power. They were exiled for it and yet survived nonetheless. Their core is, thus, defined by a strong morality, a heroic struggle to win over their crippling addiction throught sheer willpower.

    That's something that the void elves completely lack. They are, instead, elves that were seducted by forbidden power and fell from grace. This is, first and foremost, the reason we reject them. Yes, their vampire-like appearance is another problem, but the only reason they look like that is because they dabbled into forbidden magic in first place. High elf fans will reject most ideas of playing elves that have fallen into use of fel, death or void magics.

    And here's the real problem: if Blizzard wished to make high elves different from blood elves, they could have done it. Just like they can pull a new "void elf" race out of nowhere, they can make the high elves unique in their own way. As long as that moral core is kept and their appearance is somewhat familiar, I think most high elf fans would accept such changes eventually.

    Why hasn't Blizzard done that? We had the Silver Covenant active since WotLK. They were the main Alliance faction in Dalaran and Argent Tournament; They led the Purge of Dalaran and the Alliance efforts in Isle of Thunder; They helped the Suramar Insurrection. And yet, Blizzard never tried to seize those opportunities to take them further apart from the blood elves. That's the mistake!

    In the following paragraphs I'll present three different ideas I had, in a matter of a few minutes, of how it could be done. I do not expect Blizzard to change their plans, not after the announcement at Blizzcon. My purpose here is just to spark discussion of what could have been.

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    Basic Premise: All the following propositions keep the core of the high elves intact, while also changing their appearance and culture slightly. In addition, all the following propositions follow the same premise:

    In the aftermatch of Legion, the Silver Covenant decides to leave Dalaran. With the Horde once again allowed into the city, the high elves fear another betrayal, and an attack against the city could spell doom for their entire race. They are now settling somewhere else, but, without access to the artifacts of Dalaran, they are feeling again the effects of their magic addiction, and search for new ways to cure it once and for all.

    Notice: Each of the propositions has a nickname for the final product ("Storm elves", for instance). This is not a new name for the race. They'd keep calling themselves "high elves". The nickname is just an easy way to picture their new theme and how their appearance would change.

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    Proposition 1: The Storm Staff of Antonidas ("Storm Elves"): Back in MoP, blood elves got access to the powers of anima (blood), while the Silver Covenant helped Jaina create the Storm Staff of Antonidas, with the powers of vita (lightning). We didn't see the Storm Staff since then. What if... Jaina worked with the Silver Covenant to study the Storm Staff?

    Now, away from Dalaran, the Silver Covenant use the Storm Staff as a new power source.

    The high elves that pass a ritual involving the staff are cured of their magical addition. Now, they have lightning eyes and tatoo-like lightning marks over their skin. They also get new skin and hair colors (in addition to some of the normal ones), as well as access to the shaman class.

    Their crest becomes a blue thunderbird rising from a lightning bolt.

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    Proposition 2- Azerite as a power source ("Celtic Elves"): With azerite now available, they find out a way to use it to feed their addiction. Due to its raw power, small quantities of dusted azerite are enough to create an arcane paint, which they then apply to their bodies.

    Picture them like "celtic warrior" elves, with colored warpaint patterns over their faces and bodies (like Alleria's warpaint). Imagine that their skin tones are all very light/pale, and you actually choose paint pattern and colors (blue, green, violet, golden), making them easy to differentiate from blood elves.

    Now, with both Alliance and Horde seeking more azerite, the high elves help the Alliance to secure some of it for themselves.

    (A small note: the idea about warpaint over their bodies is a small callback to Warcraft 2, in which upgraded elven rangers had colorful painting patterns over their faces. This idea just makes that distinction an imposed cultural necessity for the high elves.)

    Their new crest would be another callback to Warcraft 2: a silver unicorn over a blue flag.

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    Proposition 3- Seeking the night elves ("Silver Elves"): During the Insurrection of Suramar, the Silver Covenant fought side by side with the night elves. While they distrusted each other initially, their mutual hatred for the blood elves and their allegiance to the Alliance made they see they are not so different anymore.

    As the hight elves are seeking a new land to settle in, the night elves, interested in helping them overcome their addiction, offer them a moon well. Feeding from it, the high elves become somewhat closer to their kaldorei kin. Their skins get paler, their hair colors lighter, their eyes glow brighter. They vary from a some traditional skin and hair colors to a many new ones not available to blood elves. They also start tatooing their faces like night elves. Plus, this proposition could open them to the druid class.

    Now, with Teldrassil burned, the high elves decide to help their new allies with their rangers and magical powers.

    Their crest is now a silver fenix over a blue background.

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    Conclusion: These ideas are just examples of how Blizzard could fulfill the desire for high elves while also making them different from their blood elf cousins. Again, I do not expect Blizzard to change their plans. If anything, they'll probably allow a few "somewhat normal" skin and hair colors for the void elves, but I'd like to start a discussion anyway.

    Which of those ideas would you like to be done in the game? Do you have other ideas of what could have been? What do you think of the void elves? Why do you like high elves?

    Like this topic to call Blizzard's attention to it.
    Whatever...

  17. #1257
    Quote Originally Posted by Friendlyimmolation View Post
    Did you play legion at all? The nightwell mutated them, of course they look different from normal night elves.

    Blood elves and high elves look the damn same, hell some blood elves even have blue eyes.
    If i bring Thalyssra again (because she is the only example of pre nightborne) then she is the same looking, except color and small shape differences.. Those shape differences can only be artistic decision, because they made unique armors for them.

  18. #1258
    Did ravenmoon have a meltdown after the high elves wasnt revealed yet again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibito View Post
    Did ravenmoon have a meltdown after the high elves wasnt revealed yet again?
    It seems he is quite happy with Void Elves and will race change all of his toons into one.

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    If anyone has seen the Ion/Jesse interview, High Elves are simply not happening, and even Void Elves were called Blood Elves.

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