Dual spec is a must for classic.

[Octayvius]

This isn't just some QoL minor addition, this is something that is needed for the game to thrive, so healers can have ret sets and actually use them in pvp, to actually have a thriving community to its highest potential. I'm on a classic server right now, and I recall from my time during classic before this, I remember being a holy paladin who could literally do none of the Badge quest in silithis and for naxxramas

I remember not being able to have enough gold to swap back when I finished my questing because gold was actually hard to get back then , so I just could not participate in said event.

I know you want to MUH Vanilla on everything but logical forethought would tell you that making people unable to play portions of the game is not some ingenius game design we should be so quick to want to preserve.


Any holy priest, paladin, restoration druid protection warrior with little gear will know exactly what I mean by this.

[Azadina]

I'd be fine with that, just to encourage more people to play tanks and healers, knowing that when the massive mats farming time comes, they could swap to dps spec and actually be able to do it like others.

[RobertoCarlos]

wouldnt be vanilla then would it

[ThatsOurEric]

IIRC, wasn't dual-speccing introduced in Wrath?

If so, it wouldn't be Classic. So nope! No Dual-specs for you!

[FLANOFETT]

wouldnt be vanilla then would it

think of it like Vanilla with a little chocolate syrup on top

[lookatmypet]

Nope. They wont. You all begged and begged for "Vanilla", so Vanilla you will get. It will be clunky and not player or spec friendly, just as it was. Being unable to play what spec you liked, not having gold, not being able to purchase a mount/riding skill was part of the experience.
Vanilla was/is not what everyone so fondly remembers, it was very difficult to do things due to the tremendous time investment.

[God Save The King]

Maintaining two sets and spending hundreds of gold on respec costs were just a part of Vanilla... which is why no one did it.

[Baelic]

Wouldn't be Vanilla

[iamthedevil]

Pain and suffering is a part of the nostalgia.

[Octayvius]

wouldnt be vanilla then would it

I played vanilla when strat scholo and brd were ten man's, and ubrs was 15 man, i raided like that for a long time, is vanilla no longer vanilla if it makes those 5 man like it did later on forcing our guilds community to go through major issues? Or is it vanilla when it's 10 man? Which one is authentically more vanilla? This argument is so arbitrary and about muh feels it really blows away any comprehension on the issue.

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Pain and suffering is a part of the nostalgia.

Loot a blood of the heroes then, there's pain and suffering, and straight exclusion, so you want to Larp or have an actual player base you can retain?

[iamthedevil]

I played vanilla when strat scholo and brd were ten man's, and ubrs was 15 man, i raided like that for a long time, is vanilla no longer vanilla if it makes those 5 man like it did later on forcing our guilds community to go through major issues? Or is it vanilla when it's 10 man? Which one is authentically more vanilla? This argument is so arbitrary and about muh feels it really blows away any comprehension on the issue.

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Loot a blood of the heroes then, there's pain and suffering, and straight exclusion, so you want to Larp or have an actual player base you can retain?

Sorry, i was being sarcastic. Although, there are some people that honestly believe that.

[callipygoustp]

With all these "modify classic/vanilla" posts you could, almost, conclude that no one actually wants servers running classic/vanilla WoW.

[Not Againnn]

lmfao do you want classic or patch 3.1

[Notdev]

I'm torn on issues like this. They could easily get rid of a lot of vanilla's horrible points and just make a few QoL changes to improve it immensely. But, as people say.. then it wouldn't be vanilla.

I'm not talking about casualizing it, but things like this, dead/useless specs, and so forth.

They'll keep it the way vanilla was, though. If its not popular because of things like this, I can definitely see Blizzard devs saying well.. we told you so.

[Oakshana]

Loot a blood of the heroes then, there's pain and suffering, and straight exclusion, so you want to Larp or have an actual player base you can retain?

Oh man... i cannot WAIT for Blood of Heroes. /cackles

[Octayvius]

With all these posts you could, almost, conclude that no one actually wants servers running classic/vanilla WoW.

Vanilla wow was much more a community and mindset than actual game. No one is saying make the grinds easier. Vanilla was all about the grind, but why make people virtually unable to play in the game?

[Deleted]

no its not and now fuck off with your retarded opinions

go play nu-wow if you want all that garbage that made wow as bad as it is today

[Azarak]

I played vanilla when strat scholo and brd were ten man's, and ubrs was 15 man, i raided like that for a long time, is vanilla no longer vanilla if it makes those 5 man like it did later on forcing our guilds community to go through major issues? Or is it vanilla when it's 10 man? Which one is authentically more vanilla? This argument is so arbitrary and about muh feels it really blows away any comprehension on the issue.

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Loot a blood of the heroes then, there's pain and suffering, and straight exclusion, so you want to Larp or have an actual player base you can retain?

Those dungeons became 5mans while the game was still Vanilla, dual spec did not come out in vanilla (or even BC). Completely different subjects on what should be in wow classic. Those dungeons' difficulties are up for discussion just like it's up for discussion what vanilla patch classic should start on, but dual spec should not be included at all because it was not a vanilla feature.

[yoma]

I played vanilla when strat scholo and brd were ten man's, and ubrs was 15 man, i raided like that for a long time, is vanilla no longer vanilla if it makes those 5 man like it did later on forcing our guilds community to go through major issues? Or is it vanilla when it's 10 man? Which one is authentically more vanilla? This argument is so arbitrary and about muh feels it really blows away any comprehension on the issue.

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Loot a blood of the heroes then, there's pain and suffering, and straight exclusion, so you want to Larp or have an actual player base you can retain?

It's entirely "yuh feels" that wants dual spec. Or any other idiotic change to VANILLA. Cry to Blizz for Wrath legacy servers (and subsequently Legion era additions to that most likely) if that's truly what you want. Leave vanilla alone.

[Dareous]

If it wasn't in vanilla then it shouldn't be in classic.