I want to decide what your body must endure or not!

[Total Crica]

Yep. Taxes well spent to keep you safe

Safe from having to work AND get to do drugs! OMG, why isn't EVERYONE signing up for this???!!!

[Doctor Amadeus]

Safe from having to work AND get to do drugs! OMG, why isn't EVERYONE signing up for this???!!!

You should explore that questions do some research, you might even find out why we don't allow people to kill themselves because maybe you think that would be swell.

[Aitch]

So you think its okay as long as someone else does it? You don't think these deaths will weigh on the conscience of the doctor required to perform these procedures? You know they take an oath to preserve life right, you are fundamentally demanding that they break the rule that they must swear in order to be a doctor? If it bothered you so much, you should have done it for him but once again, you wouldn't have done it because you are to much of a coward. Instead you want to put the burden onto someone else.

Hippocratic oath also suggest free education for medical professionals. Didn’t realize you were such a socialist.

It’s older than the bible and about as relevant when trying to make arguments about modern issues.

[Nerovar]

No, sick is when a person wants to kill themselves and people shrug and say "Meh why not let them" Since they are of no value and not my problem. Sometimes people get broken and need to find a way to get fixed.

Sometimes people just don't want to live because they don't think that being alive is alright. No one should have the obligation to stay alive.

[TheDestinatus]

What kind of childish reasoning is that? The vast majority of people who have to fall back on assisted suicide are those who are terminally ill from something that will rob them of their mental and bodily faculties, making it impossible for them to commit suicide. The alternative is to either let them live and die from months of pure torture and indignity, or let a professional prepare a lethal dose of whatever will make them simply fall asleep.

Have you ever been witness to the last stages of no-return cancer or Alzheimer? I bet you were not.

Someone who is depressed will not get assisted suicide granted anyway. Wherever it's possible to get it, it always involves multiple doctors and psychologists. It's not something you can get from going to the pharmacy.

Haha, yeah cancer is pretty rare. Never known anyone to have suffered or died from it, pretty rare phenomenon. You think Alzheimer's is pure torture? Being depressed is a viable excuse for self assisted suicide, or has everyone already forgotten http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7023666.html

[Doctor Amadeus]

Sometimes people just don't want to live because they don't think that being alive is alright. No one should have the obligation to stay alive.

That is a the conclusion of a warped mind, either the individual that feels that way, or the individual that doesn't care others feel that way. It isn't natural or healthy to feel ending your life or others ending their lives is no big deal. Seriously it's pretty fucked up to have to tell anyone that doesn't know that.

[TheDestinatus]

Haha, yeah cancer is pretty rare. Never known anyone to have suffered or died from it, pretty rare phenomenon. You think Alzheimer's is pure torture? Being depressed is a viable excuse for self assisted suicide, or has everyone already forgotten http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7023666.html

Hah, here is another: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...euthanasia-du/

"just two people had themselves euthanised in the country in 2010 due to an "insufferable" mental illness, 56 people did so last year, a trend which sparked concern among ethicists."

"that even children as young as 12 who ask to end their lives should be taken seriously."

lol

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That is a the conclusion of a warped mind, either the individual that feels that way, or the individual that doesn't care others feel that way. It isn't natural or healthy to feel ending your life or others ending their lives is no big deal. Seriously it's pretty fucked up to have to tell anyone that doesn't know that.

Might be a chemical imbalance or just severe trauma from experience. Who are you to tell them to just go on suffering if they don't want to ?
Not everything can be cured.

It's your life and you can do anything you want as long as you are prepared to deal with the consequences.

[Nerovar]

That is a the conclusion of a warped mind, either the individual that feels that way, or the individual that doesn't care others feel that way. It isn't natural or healthy to feel ending your life or others ending their lives is no big deal. Seriously it's pretty fucked up to have to tell anyone that doesn't know that.

That's because you think that human life is some kind of unconditional good thing when in reality it's not. It's malignantly useless. So why prolong some person's suffering?

[Doctor Amadeus]

Might be a chemical imbalance or just severe trauma from experience. Who are you to tell them to just go on suffering if they don't want to ?
Not everything can be cured.

It's your life and you can do anything you want as long as you are prepared to deal with the consequences.

I’m me and I say no it’s unethical. Human life is precious and wanting to end it is unnnatural and immoral.

So nope you won’t end your life if I can stop it.

[Total Crica]

I’m me and I say no it’s unethical. Human life is precious and wanting to end it is unnatural and immoral.

You are able to wield your power over me and want to call it "saving me" but you are not saving me, you are torturing me for your own desires. I have my own desires for myself, but people like you don't recognize that, they only recognize their own desires and want to inflict them on others.

[Doctor Amadeus]

That's because you think that human life is some kind of unconditional good thing when in reality it's not. It's malignantly useless. So why prolong some person's suffering?

I think there could be conditions. That being the only exception. No we don’t don’t and never should condone suicide.

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You are able to wield your power over me and want to call it "saving me" but you are not saving me, you are torturing me for your own desires.

Your mind is damaged I’ll do whatever it takes to save you. Until you are well.

[Total Crica]

Your mind is damaged I’ll do whatever it takes to save you. Until you are well.

You will torture me until I stop screaming.

[Doctor Amadeus]

You will torture me until I stop screaming.

We have Thorazine for that and restraints until we heal your mind together.

[Total Crica]

We have Thorazine for that and restraints until we heal your mind together.

Just because you can't hear me scream doesn't mean you aren't torturing me.

[Doctor Amadeus]

Just because you can't hear me scream doesn't mean you aren't torturing me.

You are already tortured if you want to kill yourself or let others kill them selves.

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Because if you fuck up your suicide, you're treatment will cost the society a lot.

Pretty much, if you manage to kill yourself, you aren't facing any consequences, if you are stupid enough to fail in your suicide attempt then...

[Total Crica]

You are already tortured if you want to kill yourself or let others kill them selves.

"It's ok to torture the tortured, they don't need their own desires for their own bodies, my desires need to be inflicted on them!"

[Doctor Amadeus]

When people find life unbearable due to sickness or fatigue, why should you be a judge over their lives?
Humans should be allowed to decide their own fate, but we should encourage them not to end it.

He’s talking about straight suicide. Mental illness can be treated and should be. Drug addicts won’t like if you take drugs away from them either.

Just because it’s something someone thinks they want doesn’t mean it’s something they should have.

Suicide by itself is selfish and thinking others are too much a bother to help is immature.

[Total Crica]

He’s talking about straight suicide. Mental illness can be treated and should be. Drug addicts won’t like if you take drugs away from them either.

Just because it’s something someone thinks they want doesn’t mean it’s something they should have.

Suicide by itself is selfish and thinking others are too much a bother to help is immature.

"Torture is the act of deliberately inflicting physical or psychological pain in order to fulfill some desire of the torturer or compel some action from the victim. Torture, by definition, is a knowing and intentional act."

You ^ are a torturer.