Is Neo-nazism a real threat?

[Deleted]

Of yeah, ''socialist'' being a code word for 'not a squeaking Nazi rat''. As for being ''BLOATED'', how may hot pieces of Aryan meat on the pictures could not even fit in XXXXL Waffen SS costumes ?

I also forgot the rule that those studs can kill everyone they want if they feel threatened in their manhood.

Man you are so fucking angry that not everyone is an insane Marxist ideologue ain't you. Maybe if that woman wasn't trying to beat down the car or scarfed one too many cheeseburgers, she wouldn't have had her heart attack.

[sarahtasher]

Man you are so fucking angry that not everyone is an insane Marxist ideologue ain't you. Maybe if that woman wasn't trying to beat down the car or scarfed one too many cheeseburgers, she wouldn't have had her heart attack.

What you call MARXIST is everyone not wearing swatiskas to work. The entire world, including the far right in Europe and probably the actual Nazis, are ''communists'' compared to edgelords.

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Man you are so fucking angry that not everyone is an insane Marxist ideologue ain't you. Maybe if that woman wasn't trying to beat down the car or scarfed one too many cheeseburgers, she wouldn't have had her heart attack.

Yeah, because the proud Aryan studs that keep parading with Nazi flags are CLEARLY not overweight. But hey, if Stormfront gave the order to believe that LIBURALS are all obese, it must be true, its Stormfront.

[Amarao]

Just curious.

Hypothetically speaking; if a (neo) Nazi had to discover a cure for cancer, would we disregard the cure because of the source?
If a "bad source" does or says something "objectively good", do we ignore it because of the source?

[sarahtasher]

Just curious.

Hypothetically speaking; if a (neo) Nazi had to discover a cure for cancer, would we disregard the cure because of the source?
If a "bad source" does or says something "objectively good", do we ignore it because of the source?

The cure would be ''to kill everyone not like me that can't be enslaved''. They are the superminds that thought that nuclear physics were Jew science.

[Varvara Spiros Gelashvili]

Man you are so fucking angry that not everyone is an insane Marxist ideologue ain't you. Maybe if that woman wasn't trying to beat down the car or scarfed one too many cheeseburgers, she wouldn't have had her heart attack.

Bombings:
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/...ntial-election
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/loca...151953257.html

Killings:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/14/u...k-attacks.html
http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rou...c3bd6793c.html
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/59813751.cms
http://wane.com/2017/07/20/mother-to...-son-you-lost/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/police-...on-hate-crime/


Here is some more but they don't even track them accurately.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism

[veehro]

Nazis are a threat whenever they pop up. They have a political view explicitly based in the extermination of others. There's no way to soft-peddle their danger.

The reason nazis (NATion SocIalist worker party <nazi> for short ) is bad is because its against capitalist democracy and anti enlightment values. Even if they would not want to exterminate others it would still be bad.

How ever i dont think they are a threat because while every one agrees nazis are bad. There are two ideologies that get main stream appeal and are not as criticized.


One is comunism that also is based on the extermination of the wealthy through a bloody revolution. They are also against private property (good luck taking the business or house from some one with no bloodshead which is a reason why many countries that tried to create comunism had to kill millions to do so. Also note how no country that tried to create comunism actually succeded which is why comunists will keep saying X wasn't real communism. Because what they are really saying is they didnt kill enough people to become comunist yet )

The other is islam which is highly similar to the nazi ideology except it has the6 supernatural element. While the muslims in the west have a watered down version of islam. Wahabists and movements like ISIS as well as allmost all muslim majority nations do ask for the genocide of the jews, the beheading of atheists and the stoning of gays, and they can only view peace on earth once every one has converted to islam.
Of course this will never happen since even if every one would convert then they would argue that some people are not "muslim enough"
How ever because of this similarity hitler was friends with the grand mufti and did say that he would of liked it if germans were islamic rather then christian.
its why nazis even wanted to fund a new religion "positive christianity" that would of removed the old testament, and also focused on the active actions of jesus such as him attacking the merchants in the temple.

The fact that people today consider islam to be "progressive" rather then a far right conservative ideology is astonishing. And that it gets a free pass as a way of people to view the world just because its a religion and thus cannot be rationally debated is even more worrying

[Jacki Treehorn]

Just curious.

Hypothetically speaking; if a (neo) Nazi had to discover a cure for cancer, would we disregard the cure because of the source?
If a "bad source" does or says something "objectively good", do we ignore it because of the source?

During WWII nazi's performed medical experiments on people (predominately Jews) which led to at least some new medical discoveries. There was no "cure for cancer" but it was still advancements obtained by horrible, inhumane methods and I believe was never published because of their source. So, yes we've done it before and probably would again.

If a "bad source" does or says something "objectively good", do we ignore it because of the source. This happens in every thread posted here when people are too lazy to refute an argument.

[Ahovv]

My argument is that repeating history is a thing and the former speak of the house already said they're in fucking congress. They end lives and have the power to actually pass fucking legislation which makes them a threat. They've actually killed people and done damage. I basically confirmed that they're threat but your going to default to not caring but will still find the energy waste time and effort arguing about a non-issue in your eyes...

I'd debate them and call them out on there ridiculous bullshit.

The alt-right goes to bed cowering in fear that jews and blacks will steal their women. And you go to bed cowering in fear of the alt-right. Hilarious.

[Mifuyne]

You know what the real threat is?
Humans!

[Deleted]

At the moment, neo-nazism is not a real threat. Angry rioting unemployed liberal arts students pretending everyone who disagrees with them is a nazi ARE a threat.

[ati87]

Really? Black Panther movie came out and critics and hollywood leftists were gushing on how Diverse™ it was with like all black cast. Like, movie being marvel I really like and all, but it wasn't diverse.

To Far Left, More Diversity simple means less white people.

Seriously you have a single god dam movie who's cast is mostly black because the location is in Africa and you feel attacked by that? What kind of sad pathetic self esteem do you have that you think that a movie like that is a attack on white people?

You have entire movies playing in the middle-east with mostly white actors with allot of makeup to make them look the part and still failing to make a decent movie because the same idiots who white wash the movie also decided to make a stupid plot (it's the same thing really).

The location of the fictional movie is in Africa for fuck sake, if you really wanted more white people in it you would complain about how all those white people are shown as evil people since that would be the most logical role they would be playing in a action movie where the main hero is black.

No this is sad and pathetic, the idea that treating people equal and decent is somehow anti-white is actually rather telling when you feel attacked. Why do you even feel attacked when you are asked to treat everybody regardless of colour and sex equal? Do you think treating them equal means you would fall behind?

The nazi defenders are worse then the nazi's, sure they won't walk on the streets saying ''jews won't replace us'' but they will happeley try to activly benefit from the same kind of talk.

[Raakel]

Dunno, back in the 90's we had this Skaters vs Skins (Nazis) rivalary in the city (in Germany) where I grew up. I happened to be a Skater.. Back then most of them where not even real Nazis and it was only a very small group. It was more like very mild gang thing of teenagers - you joined whichever group your friends where in. This was a period of like 5 years where I realized there where people considered being Nazis. There where fist fiights with the usual suspects occasionally but somehow years after you met one of them by accident and they where having kids/family and seemed to have grown up.

In my opinion this whole Nazi thing is somewhat overhyped. EVERY nation on this planet has them, mostly in just very small numbers. I don't think it's a threat to anyone.

As for the US - there have always been Nazi groups there that's realy nothing new. Things just got more social and in the media. My guess is the amount of this people stays realtively the same in every country. You just recognize them eventually a little more these days.

[Ravenblade]

Coming from a German state that has a significant amount of neonazi activities I tend to think somewhat differently about this.

Neonazis here are far better organized and know how to "play the law" very well. They are not just a rag-tag street gang, in fact their higher echelons are not stupid and usually well-connected. They did at one point even get the indirect backing from the state - namely the Constitution Protection Agency did pay neonazis as undercover agents and got sucked into many a scandals that rocked the state especially during the aftermath of the reveal of the NSU murders.

When people lament about "lawless zones" we do so by referring to "nationally liberated" regions where neonazis openly have seized control in defiance of the state with poor opposition from police forces who are even sometimes caught sympathizing with them because in their minds it's just some "concerned" people being a bit "rash". We have had a recent case of a Left politician from a neighbouring state (equally infested with neonazis and far rightwing groups) being openly attacked and hunted to the point that he chose to leave for another state in order to feel more safe especially since, as it came out, he narrowly escaped another assassination attempt. Disagree what you want with the Left but this is outright dangerous behaviour in a democracy, that's the situation as it was in the 1920s Weimar Republic.
It is no coincidence that regions with heavy neonazi activity are economically poorer, usually because these activities do hamper investment efforts as they do scare away investors and due to these lack of investment efforts people shift more right or are more sympathetic to them, or at least do tolerate their behaviour in their neighbourhood. They effectivelly see their presence as a result of being victim of (unjustified) public scorn and collective punishment.

Their actual threat lies in that they lower the inhibition threshold towards their ideas and that usually means they will bear fruit, as with every idea if it's not countered they usually tend to creep into the minds of the people in a region. The more they are the easier it is to harass dissidents to their ideas and the opposition without much repercussion since the affected would rather flee than stay. I don't see them as a national threat, yet, but regionally they are a real issue. There is no downplaying needed as there's heaps of documentation files on them and even more so, I personally do know people who had to cooperate under threat with these people just because they owned an establishment such as a ballroom for rent for closed events.

[Mormolyce]

Reading some of this thread and I got the creeping suspicion that libertarians really don't care about democracy.

This video from The Majority Report with Sam Seder seems to confirm this suspicion. Modern Libertarians always seem to side with fascist. Why do they keep a low profile, or become republican, during a Republic majority in power? Last, are libertarians just total fascist tadpoles?

It's all about property rights and lending plausible deniability to fascists.

Libertarians are in theory the exact opposite of fascists and should oppose them at every turn.

Of course in practice many "libertarians" are conservatives in sheep's clothing.

Conservatives should also be opposed to neo-Nazis, but that's another bucket of wet shit again...

[truckboattruck]

"nazi" is the last win button insult that the cucks have to throw. its the worst conceivable sin in their cult of multiculturalism.
and youre literally about to wear it out hahahahahahaha

guess what guys, its ok to be white

[Mormolyce]

Surprise, surprise!! Links dismissed on MMOC? Gasp!!

Uh, I didn't dismiss the article at all but rather read it.

Which you'd know if you read my post.

[XangXu]

Yes of course they are a danger.

The internet exists. This gives them a platform to congragate, and what is worse, to reinforce their ideas constantly. Backing up bad ideas gives these people strength and courage to go offline and into the streets. Like charlotesville.

Also, with the massive spike in Mental Health breaks in your country (America) people are more impressionable to ideas like Nazis.

I mean i'm sorry but your people have taken to electing pedophiles into government. What makes you think they would be above electing Nazis into the government?

Your counry is in big trouble, not sure if you've noticed.

[Mormolyce]

im sorry that you are having a hard time reading all the data presented and what it means. lol

Reminder: your original post was:

However poor white people still commit multitudes less violent crime. Less murder. Less rape. these are facts.

But the study you linked is about victimisation rates.

So do you have a faulty memory or do you not understand the difference? Only two possibilities.

[Deleted]

guess what guys, its ok to be white

i have the feeling that some peoples already labeled you racist

[Raakel]

Coming from a German state that has a significant amount of neonazi activities I tend to think somewhat differently about this....

No offence but I think it's the mindset of many eastern Germans that causes the problem. Many of them still live somewhat in the past and feel there was a kind of a sell out and betrayal in the German reunification process. They wanted the freedom but felt overtaken by the Wessis (Western Germans). The thing is and I hope you don't take that as an insult, they where (some still are) not used to how things work in a market economy. They are used to beeing taken care off and the concept of you have to work hard to get wealth doesn't click for some of them. What the current election has revealed is that Germany is still a deeply devided country.

The right wing Nazi Dudes in your state that you told of are just exploiting the feeling of the unwealthy that feel left behind. And there lies the problem. Only wealth would make them disappear. Western Germans jump started the east with a lot of money but still it doesn't seem enough. Imo it's still necessary to somewhat carry the East but there hast to come a time when their mindset changes also.

Sorry for OT...