Why Are Americans not Revolting?

[Tennis]

OP most likely added himself to a watchlist with that suggestion, absolute trouble stirrer/troll.

Oh please. Go look at what people are saying on twitter. This is mild.

[Deleted]

a governments power to control it's population has never been greater in history, to the point they don't even need to resort to physical force anymore. anything that can pose a serious threat to the powers that be will be extinguished before it can gain enough traction to achieve real change.

large scale revolts are just not possible anymore unless someone in power allows it to happen.

[zebreck]

The simple answer is that very nearly everyone in this country, from the far right to what passes for the left, all more or less agree on one thing. Money==virtue. If you don't have any, it's because you are somehow a bad or unworthy person. If you have a lot of it, it's because you're enlightened, take people supporting Trump precisely because he's rich and therefore "knows how to get things done." This belief is a lie, of course, but it's not going anywhere and it inherently precludes the usage of anything but the farthest right wing economic discourse. You can't even meaningfully talk about progressive economic reforms using libertarian language, which is the only language we've got.

[Masoner]

Income inequality in the U.S. is the highest among all developed nations. With the federal minimum wage being only $7.25 per hour, people are living in modern slavery just making enough money to barely survive. The republicans in the senate just voted to give an express lane that is going to make inequality far worse.

How long can this go on without some kind of major revolution?

Get off our forums Bernie.

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In the US, literally any time the democrats attempt to claim they are fighting for the poor, Trump and the republicans fire right back that the democrats want to flood the US with immigrants who take away jobs and opportunities from the poor, and the democrats have no response. Furthermore, they point out this is happening on a global scale, with European leftists taking away jobs and opportunities from citizens there and giving them to refugees. The left has no credible response to this.

They point to the city of Detroit as a wasteland created by leftist corporations who allowed industry to be shipped to China.

As a result, the states of Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio, and Wisconsin all flipped collectively and voted republican in 2016 for the first time since the 1980s.

Then Trump points to liberal judges who block his attempts to tighten immigration laws as a reason to expel more democrats from office.

If anything, there might be a revolt from the right if the immigration issue isn't resolved.

The revolt all ready happened, we stopped Hillary and the democrats from destroying out nation. It also helps that we dont' give a fuck what Europeans think about us.

[Gutpile]

Hope i can get out before the implosion and race war.

What's stopping you? Get the fuck out and don't look back. Bring as many of your friends as you can, too.

[Deathcries]

I think the question should be, why are Americans not taking responsibility for their own fuck ups.

Most people that work minimum wage jobs do so because they never bothered to gain any useful life skills growing up and now work minimum wage and blame everyone else for it.

The "progressive" movement in America these days is nothing but lazy irresponsible idiots wanting handouts because they failed at life.

This is also the reason a revolution wouldn't work, because no one with any real sense or motivation would waste their time.

This first post nails it.

[Risale]

Always wondered why current americans are so dead set against a socialistic democracy (keep in mind I don't mean socialism, 2 different things).
The reason for saying that is due to the fact that the US was far more socialistically inclined then even EU countries up to the 1950s and yes even with segregation they were (maybe more so in coloured communities) but for some reason the whole nation changed from "US" to "ME" evolving into "ME and fuck everyone else".
Today I read something that is more and more turning to reality "Before people moved to the US as it was the land of the free and opportunity" and now people are looking for any way to get the hell out.

[Laserbeak]

I don't know. They're pretty revolting to me.

[volescue]

The problem with a revolt is that it would only make everyone's lives more difficult and lower the standard of living. Play the game and get ahead, or just keep on keeping on and continue to live a life still better than many other countries. Wealth distribution works well enough when you have a smaller population, but it is significantly more difficult when you have a population the size of ours, that spans as much area as the US does.

[Zython]

I think the question should be, why are Americans not taking responsibility for their own fuck ups.

White supremacy, mostly.

Most people that work minimum wage jobs do so because they never bothered to gain any useful life skills growing up and now work minimum wage and blame everyone else for it.

The "progressive" movement in America these days is nothing but lazy irresponsible idiots wanting handouts because they failed at life.

This is also the reason a revolution wouldn't work, because no one with any real sense or motivation would waste their time.

Question. Have you ever actually talked to a poor person?

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Yeah man, why don't we just share the wealth? Capitalism ALWAYS works and has never failed! Just give all your money to rich people so they can waste it all on hookers and blow, whoops forgot to feed my children again this month!

The federal government isn't there to babysit you through life. You get what you work for, so if you put no effort forth and have no skills, of course you're not going to make any money.

FTFY.

In all seriousness, why do people keep thinking that making rich people more powerful will help. If it did, it would have worked by now. Maybe we should try giving poor people political power.

[Deleted]

It's part of the american culture. Every man is the artisan of his own future.

is that a euphemism for every man for himself?

[Taso]

Why is their a need for revolt? You can’t simply raise minum wages without giving compensation. For everything offered something has to be taken. secondly small businesses would be crushed and have to raise prices to maintain revenue making that reward all the more worthless. At that point most would close down reduce employment opportunities and increase automa. Thus turning fear into reality.

[Gaidax]

To me this argument never made sens. Say our entire population had PhD's in physics, minimum wage workers would still have to exist because not everyone can be a physics PhD scientific researcher. Society needs mailmen, store clerks, manual laborers, etc. If society needs low level workers as well as high level workers, then why don't we give low lever workers fair pay? They perform a task that society needs.

When everyone will have PhD's in Physics we will talk, fact is majority of population can't be assed to be anything and get themselves out of their own shit, they happily flip burgers in McDonald's and do mundane shit jobs which will be done by robots in 20 years from now, despite having all the limitless knowledge doors open to them and useful skills up for grabs with some effort.

Problem is that flipping burgers and scratching your balls, while cursing "teh elitez" is much easier than hitting books and studying something useful for humanity and themselves.

Maybe if all these bumpkins did something useful with their lives, humanity would not need human mailmen, store clerks and manual laborers anymore.

Instead they use this limitless knowledge offered to search for porn and cat videos.

[Zython]

Get off our forums Bernie.

What did he say that was false?

The revolt all ready happened, we stopped Hillary and the democrats from destroying out nation. It also helps that we dont' give a fuck what Europeans think about us.

And now you lost your health insurance and are being taxed more to pay for rich people who have never worked a day in their lives. Nicely done.

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Why is their a need for revolt?

Because the Senate just decided to steal money from us to give to the rich. Have you not been paying attention.

You can’t simply raise minum wages without giving compensation. For everything offered something has to be taken.

Right. Taking things from the rich is a good thing.

And secondly small businesses would be crushed and have to raise prices to maintain revenue making that reward all the more worthless.

What small businesses?

At that point most would close down reduce employment opportunities and increase automa. Thus turning fear into reality.

Maybe if your system is designed in such a way that having robots do all the work is seen as a bad thing, your system kind of sucks?

[Adam Jensen]

You want to see income inequality? Wait till all those kids that took social justice courses or gender studies courses get out into the workforce.

Where the fuck are these gender studies courses that all the millenials are supposedly taking?

[belfpala]

The revolt all ready happened, we stopped Hillary and the democrats from destroying out nation. It also helps that we dont' give a fuck what Europeans think about us.

What does your elementary school teacher think about us?

[Zython]

When everyone will have PhD's in Physics we will talk, fact is majority of population can't be assed to be anything and get themselves out of their own shit, they happily flip burgers in McDonald's and do mundane shit jobs which will be done by robots in 20 years from now, despite having all the limitless knowledge doors open to them and useful skills up for grabs with some effort.

Problem is that flipping burgers and scratching your balls, while cursing "teh elitez" is much easier than hitting books and studying something useful for humanity and themselves.

Maybe if all these bumpkins did something useful with their lives, humanity would not need human mailmen, store clerks and manual laborers anymore.

Instead they use this limitless knowledge offered to search for porn and cat videos.

And when those people DO go get a higher education, and get saddled with a massive student loan debt, you then say they shouldn't have been so stupid as to go to college. It's almost as if you're a hypocritical spoiled brat who has never worked a day in his life.

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The problem with a revolt is that it would only make everyone's lives more difficult and lower the standard of living. Play the game and get ahead, or just keep on keeping on and continue to live a life still better than many other countries. Wealth distribution works well enough when you have a smaller population, but it is significantly more difficult when you have a population the size of ours, that spans as much area as the US does.

So in other words, you don't want a revolt, because it would force you to live under the conditions you're more than happy to subjugate others to.

[Tiwack]

Bread and circuses along with the keys to power and all that...

People become complacent and apathetic instead of unified and altruistic.

[Allenseiei]

Nations that have wealth redistribution programs are consistently the happiest in the world.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/norway-...untry-of-2017/

These arguments about northern european countries are brought so out of context its rediculous.
Why don't you analyze Norway's social structures for a moment? You will see some really nice things that will open your eyes:

1. More people live in Manhattan than in Norway.
2. Very homogenous population. Inmigrants, low scholarized citizens, etc, are rare. People have similar values. This is the most crucial thing for intensive rent redistribution to work. Low differences and wages are close to each other.
3. High natural resources so it has high public funding.

It's very easy to think you can make heavy populated and diverse countries work like that, but it's impossible, with over 300 million people living in the US, from so many different countries, cultures, etc.

[Bodakane]

80 percent of poor households have air conditioning. In 1970, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.
92 percent of poor households have a microwave.
Nearly three-fourths have a car or truck, and 31 percent have two or more cars or trucks.
Nearly two-thirds have cable or satellite TV.
Two-thirds have at least one DVD player, and 70 percent have a VCR.
Half have a personal computer, and one in seven have two or more computers.
More than half of poor families with children have a video game system, such as an Xbox or PlayStation.
43 percent have Internet access.
One-third have a wide-screen plasma or LCD TV.
One-fourth have a digital video recorder system, such as a TiVo.

96 percent of poor parents stated that their children were never hungry at any time during the year because they could not afford food.
83 percent of poor families reported having enough food to eat.
82 percent of poor adults reported never being hungry at any time in the prior year due to lack of money for food.
Other government surveys show that the average consumption of protein, vitamins, and minerals is virtually the same for poor and middle-class children and is well above recommended norms in most cases.

Television newscasts about poverty in America generally portray the poor as homeless people or as a destitute family living in an overcrowded, dilapidated trailer. In fact, however:

Over the course of a year, 4 percent of poor persons become temporarily homeless.
Only 9.5 percent of the poor live in mobile homes or trailers, 49.5 percent live in separate single-family houses or townhouses, and 40 percent live in apartments.
42 percent of poor households actually own their own homes.
Only 6 percent of poor households are overcrowded. More than two-thirds have more than two rooms per person.
The average poor American has more living space than the typical non-poor person in Sweden, France, or the United Kingdom.
The vast majority of the homes or apartments of the poor are in good repair.

http://www.heritage.org/poverty-and-...ng-facts-about

The poor pretty much have everything the rich do, it's just not as lavish or new.

lol, Heritage Foundation. I bet if I posted something Mother Jones, you'd accept it, right? Hell, I doubt you think the NYT even tells the truth.