Trump's Deutsche Bank Records Said to Be Subpoenaed by Mueller

[TZucchini]

They best check in between the cushions of Trump's couch. Might have some a few pennies that have russian connections.

I wonder how much longer this witch hunt will last?

It's entertaining to watch you all grasp at straws in desperation though.

A witch hunt, that thus far, has resulted in an indictment, and two guilty pleas, by Trump campaign officials.

[BuckSparkles]

A witch hunt, that thus far, has resulted in an indictment, and two guilty pleas, by Trump campaign officials.

Indictments that have nothing to do with Trump. Again, I love your desperation.

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You didn’t get conned? Let’s test your theory... are you enjoying the stock market, where the value of corporations is dictated... or is your wallet looking nice? Because, talking about how nice the value of corporations is, while defending an active CEO, instead of talking about your or American citizen’s finances... sure seems like you got conned...

Yeah, I can tell you are enojoying it. Who are you living vicariously through today?

At the very least the more hateful and angry you people get, the better.

Going to enjoy 4-8 years of the left screaming.

[Kujako]

Going to enjoy 4-8 years of the left screaming.

I fear the screams you hear, are only in your head. You should get that looked ed, could be serious.

[Felya]

At the very least the more hateful and angry you people get, the better.

Going to enjoy 4-8 years of the left screaming.

Why would I be angry? I’m not the one who is boasting corporate worth, but cannot even defend the hole in their wallet. You mad bro?

[cubby]

#FAKENEWS

White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders on Tuesday disputed reports that special counsel Robert Mueller has subpoenaed President Trump’s bank records.

“We confirmed that the news reports [that] the special counsel had subpoenaed financial records related to the president are completely false,” Sanders said during the daily press briefing.

“No subpoena has been issued or received. We have confirmed this with the bank and other sources. I think this is another example of the media going too far and too fast and we don't see it going in that direction," she said.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...s-bank-records

Why would you believe a lying shrill like SHS over multiple independent reports? Is the kool-aid that good? Still chugging with your eyes closed I see . . . .

[TZucchini]

Indictments that have nothing to do with Trump. Again, I love your desperation.

OK. Sorry.

Two guilty pleas, that are directly related to the Trump campaign. And are directly related to communications with Russia. TWO GUILTY PLEAS.

Two Trump Campaign officials who are now CONVICTED FELONS, because of their work for the Trump Campaign.


LOL TAKE THAT LIBRULS.

[BuckSparkles]

OK. Sorry.

Two guilty pleas, that are directly related to the Trump campaign. And are directly related to communications with Russia. TWO GUILTY PLEAS.

Two Trump Campaign officials who are now CONVICTED FELONS, because of their work for the Trump Campaign.


LOL TAKE THAT LIBRULS.

If it makes you sleep better at night. Either way, don't want to detract from the thread, enjoy the circlejerk.

[Felya]

If it makes you sleep better at night. Either way, don't want to detract from the thread, enjoy the circlejerk.

Circle jerk? Is that what’s on your mind, when you are defending Trump? Yet, you think others are upset? WTF? lol

[TZucchini]

If it makes you sleep better at night. Either way, don't want to detract from the thread, enjoy the circlejerk.

"It's a witch hunt"

"I don't think it is. Two people have already been convicted of federal crimes."

"Well, if it makes you sleep better at night."

"?????????????"


You guys are a literal clown show.

[Dontrike]

Indictments that have nothing to do with Trump. Again, I love your desperation.

So the people Trump hires and that are criminals have nothing to do with Trump? Huh, weird.

[callipygoustp]

Come on people, indictments and guilty pleas are nothing more than smoke and mirrors.

[Felya]

Come on people, indictments and guilty pleas are nothing more than smoke and mirrors.

Like mirrors, a crack pipe is made out if glass... and I do think smoke is involved.

(All I know is that crack is whack... If I am wrong, my bad.)

[Orbitus]

Indictments that have nothing to do with Trump. Again, I love your desperation.

Obviously you have missed the Flynn indictment where he is being Mueller's best friend right now.

[Levelfive]

I think Mueller's going to go digging everywhere there could be wrongdoing of any kind. While this entire investigation was predicated on Russian collusion theories, they're really just looking for any kind of malfeasance. It's a wholesale investigation using "Russian Collusion" as a vehicle.

This is pretty interesting:

"If anyone was going to be the Forrest Gump of the Russia investigation, we're lucky it was Guardian reporter Luke Harding. Harding has spent years reporting on Russia, a career that's meant he's happened to be in certain important places at certain critical times, during which he's happened to interview central figures in the still-unfolding political drama gripping the United States.

For instance, weeks before news broke of a salacious dossier detailing alleged leverage Russia may hold over then President-elect Donald Trump, Harding and a colleague were in a London pub meeting with an ex-British intelligence officer named Christopher Steele about a story they were working on. And a few years earlier, Harding happened to be on assignment in Ukraine, where he happened to interview an American political consultant named Paul Manafort about the work he was doing for Russia's preferred presidential candidate. Then there was the day he spent driving around with Aras Agalarov – the Russian oligarch who connected Donald Trump Jr. with a Russian lawyer promising dirt on Hillary Clinton.

Now Harding has incorporated those stories, along with other relevant experiences – such as the time the FSB broke into his home in Moscow, presumably to bug it, and left a book on sex and relationships on his bedside table – into a book, Collusion: Secret Meetings, Dirty Money and How Russian Helped Donald Trump Win. Among its most interesting chapters is one relating to Tuesday's news that Special Counsel Robert Mueller has subpoenaed Trump's records with Deutsche Bank.

In Collusion, Harding details Trump's attempts in 2008 to default on some $330 million he owed Deutsche Bank for its help financing the construction of the Trump International Hotel and Tower in Chicago. The bank sued to force Trump to pay a portion of the debt: $40 million plus legal fees and interest. This was the middle of the financial crisis, a fact Trump tried to leverage in court, arguing he should not have to repay money he owed Deutsche Bank because it was "one of the banks primarily responsible for the economic dysfunction we are currently facing." In fact, Trump went on, because of the bank's role in creating this "once-in-a-century credit tsunami," Deutsche Bank owed him money, to the tune of $3 billion in damages.

Trump's case, of course, was thrown out. But that's where this story gets interesting: After a judge ordered Trump to repay the money he owed Deutsche Bank, Trump did it using money he borrowed from... Deutsche Bank. He paid the bank's real estate division back with money borrowed from its personal wealth division.

Harding writes:

"The decision to keep lending to Trump was unusual, bizarre even. Deutsche Bank employees in New York were surprised. Asked whether it was normal to give money to a customer who was a bad credit risk and a litigant, one former senior Deutsche Bank staff member said: ‘Are you fucking kidding me?'"

After the original loan, the same division of the bank continued to lend to Trump: "He took out two mortgages against Trump National Doral resort in Miami. And a $170 million loan to finish his hotel in Washington in the old post office tower." Bloomberg estimates that upon his inauguration, Trump owed Deutsche Bank $300 million, loans that were due in 2023 and 2024, respectively.

Most interesting of all, though, is what Harding goes on to detail: Around the same time Deutsche Bank's private wealth division was granting these extraordinary loans to Trump, business in the bank's new Moscow branch was booming, thanks to the fact that it owned basically all of the business of Vneshtorgbank, or VTB – the Kremlin bank. (The then CEO of Goldman Sachs Moscow told Harding, "the nature and concentration of their business with VTB [was] quite galling. Nobody else could touch VTB.") It would later emerge that during this time, Deutsche Bank Moscow was laundering billions of dollars for friends of the Kremlin, money that ultimately flowed through the bank's New York and London branches.

It's clear, Harding tells Rolling Stone, that Deutsche Bank Moscow "was compromised" and did this "unseemly, Faust-like deal with VTB to make very big profits, very quickly and to stun its rivals in Moscow, other investment banks, just by having the right people with the right FSB connections."

Deutsche Bank would ultimately be fined $475 million by the New York State Department of Financial Services, and an additional £163 million by London's Financial Conduct Authority, over the money-laundering scheme.

"There are these two parallel lines," Harding says. "One is the capture of Deutsche Bank Moscow by VTB – which is basically the FSB, the Russian spy agency. [VTB] practically took over Deutsche Bank Moscow. And the other line is Deutsche New York's extraordinary lending to Trump.

"Deutsche Bank New York, even though he sued them, even though he wrote them one of the most ridiculous writs in legal history, continued to lend very large sums to Trump, while simultaneously its Moscow division was running a – I was going to say elaborate, but in fact it was actually quite crude – large-scale money laundering scheme for Kremlin VIPs, who are still anonymous, from which Deutsche Bank London and Deutsche Bank New York made big profits," he says.

The lines, Harding says, don't converge – at least not yet. But that point of convergence is no doubt what Robert Mueller is after with his Tuesday subpoena request."

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...cords-w513399#

[Thekri]

Indictments that have nothing to do with Trump. Again, I love your desperation.

Obviously one of the go to lines for Trump supporters, but it is a rather strange one. Both guilty pleas were for perjury, lying to FBI investigators about actions Trump claims were legitimate. Trump himself says that they lied, but he doesn't know why.

The indictments also included false reports, failure to disclose foreign contacts, and failure to register financial accounts. These cases began long before the Trump campaign, but continued throughout the campaign, with Trump allegedly unaware of them. In the case of both Flynn and Manafort, these continued into the Trump presidency.

You can say it doesn't tie to Trump, and it doesn't, not directly, not yet. But it does uncover an ever increasing sphere of lies, deliberate deception, and foreign influence over the people that are closest to Trump. Remember, Trump repeatedly said that he would rely on the best people to conduct his business, he also admitted on multiple occasions to not knowing some of the most basic parts of his presidential responsibilities, but said he would learn them. These are the people that influenced Trump then, the ones that taught him about his own policies.

The key here isn't that it implicates Trump, it is that it implicates significant players in his campaign and administration, that undermines the credibility of his candidacy and his presidency.

[cubby]

This is pretty interesting:

"If anyone was going to be the Forrest Gump of the Russia investigation, we're lucky it was Guardian reporter Luke Harding. Harding has spent years reporting on Russia, a career that's meant he's happened to be in certain important places at certain critical times, during which he's happened to interview central figures in the still-unfolding political drama gripping the United States.

For instance, weeks before news broke of a salacious dossier detailing alleged leverage Russia may hold over then President-elect Donald Trump, Harding and a colleague were in a London pub meeting with an ex-British intelligence officer named Christopher Steele about a story they were working on. And a few years earlier, Harding happened to be on assignment in Ukraine, where he happened to interview an American political consultant named Paul Manafort about the work he was doing for Russia's preferred presidential candidate. Then there was the day he spent driving around with Aras Agalarov – the Russian oligarch who connected Donald Trump Jr. with a Russian lawyer promising dirt on Hillary Clinton.

Now Harding has incorporated those stories, along with other relevant experiences – such as the time the FSB broke into his home in Moscow, presumably to bug it, and left a book on sex and relationships on his bedside table – into a book, Collusion: Secret Meetings, Dirty Money and How Russian Helped Donald Trump Win. Among its most interesting chapters is one relating to Tuesday's news that Special Counsel Robert Mueller has subpoenaed Trump's records with Deutsche Bank.

In Collusion, Harding details Trump's attempts in 2008 to default on some $330 million he owed Deutsche Bank for its help financing the construction of the Trump International Hotel and Tower in Chicago. The bank sued to force Trump to pay a portion of the debt: $40 million plus legal fees and interest. This was the middle of the financial crisis, a fact Trump tried to leverage in court, arguing he should not have to repay money he owed Deutsche Bank because it was "one of the banks primarily responsible for the economic dysfunction we are currently facing." In fact, Trump went on, because of the bank's role in creating this "once-in-a-century credit tsunami," Deutsche Bank owed him money, to the tune of $3 billion in damages.

Trump's case, of course, was thrown out. But that's where this story gets interesting: After a judge ordered Trump to repay the money he owed Deutsche Bank, Trump did it using money he borrowed from... Deutsche Bank. He paid the bank's real estate division back with money borrowed from its personal wealth division.

Harding writes:

"The decision to keep lending to Trump was unusual, bizarre even. Deutsche Bank employees in New York were surprised. Asked whether it was normal to give money to a customer who was a bad credit risk and a litigant, one former senior Deutsche Bank staff member said: ‘Are you fucking kidding me?'"

After the original loan, the same division of the bank continued to lend to Trump: "He took out two mortgages against Trump National Doral resort in Miami. And a $170 million loan to finish his hotel in Washington in the old post office tower." Bloomberg estimates that upon his inauguration, Trump owed Deutsche Bank $300 million, loans that were due in 2023 and 2024, respectively.

Most interesting of all, though, is what Harding goes on to detail: Around the same time Deutsche Bank's private wealth division was granting these extraordinary loans to Trump, business in the bank's new Moscow branch was booming, thanks to the fact that it owned basically all of the business of Vneshtorgbank, or VTB – the Kremlin bank. (The then CEO of Goldman Sachs Moscow told Harding, "the nature and concentration of their business with VTB [was] quite galling. Nobody else could touch VTB.") It would later emerge that during this time, Deutsche Bank Moscow was laundering billions of dollars for friends of the Kremlin, money that ultimately flowed through the bank's New York and London branches.

It's clear, Harding tells Rolling Stone, that Deutsche Bank Moscow "was compromised" and did this "unseemly, Faust-like deal with VTB to make very big profits, very quickly and to stun its rivals in Moscow, other investment banks, just by having the right people with the right FSB connections."

Deutsche Bank would ultimately be fined $475 million by the New York State Department of Financial Services, and an additional £163 million by London's Financial Conduct Authority, over the money-laundering scheme.

"There are these two parallel lines," Harding says. "One is the capture of Deutsche Bank Moscow by VTB – which is basically the FSB, the Russian spy agency. [VTB] practically took over Deutsche Bank Moscow. And the other line is Deutsche New York's extraordinary lending to Trump.

"Deutsche Bank New York, even though he sued them, even though he wrote them one of the most ridiculous writs in legal history, continued to lend very large sums to Trump, while simultaneously its Moscow division was running a – I was going to say elaborate, but in fact it was actually quite crude – large-scale money laundering scheme for Kremlin VIPs, who are still anonymous, from which Deutsche Bank London and Deutsche Bank New York made big profits," he says.

The lines, Harding says, don't converge – at least not yet. But that point of convergence is no doubt what Robert Mueller is after with his Tuesday subpoena request."

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...cords-w513399#

That is definitely interesting - thank you for posting it. Has Mueller had a chance to "download" Harding's knowledge?

[Mormolyce]

I'm thinking more likely a leaker at the bank.

Edit: Apparently I'm not the only one.

Yeah I just read that myself as well.

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I wonder how much longer this witch hunt will last?

Oh boy. You poor thing.

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Going to enjoy 4-8 years of the left screaming.

You mean 3-7 right?

And are you sure it's the left "screaming"? Because I see a lot of our righty tighty posters triggering themselves into a ban, while Trump tweets DO SOMETHING in allcaps.

[Lenonis]

Plus that stock market is looking nice.

I'm always baffled at seeing statements like this from anti-obama/anti-left folks. It's like the stock market magically sprang into existing when Trump took office.

[Mormolyce]

I'm always baffled at seeing statements like this from anti-obama/anti-left folks. It's like the stock market magically sprang into existing when Trump took office.

Also the economic illiteracy of thinking stock market = economy.

[lockedout]

Why would you believe a lying shrill like SHS over multiple independent reports? Is the kool-aid that good? Still chugging with your eyes closed I see . . . .

I understand what you're saying but it's one anonymous source and then everyone reporting on that source. Saying multiple independent reports is a little facetious.