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    DPS Specialization, Talents and Glyphs per BRF Mythic Encounter list

    Hello,

    I'm a long time warrior(10 years) currently 6/7M 3/10M looking for some constructive advice from experienced Mythic warriors preferably someone with extensive 5/10-10/10 BRF Mythic experience.For a while now I've been looking to compile an optimalization list that includes per Mythic encounter information specifically: Spec, Talents & Glyphs. Any insight would be greatly appreciated and I'll try update it here. Perhaps I'll start using google docs or even google sheets.

    It would look something like this:

    Specialization, Talents & Glyphs per Mythic BRF Encounter

    Beastlord Darmac
    Spec:
    Talents:
    Glyphs:
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):

    Hans' gar and Franzok
    Spec:
    Talents:
    Glyphs:
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):

    Oregorger
    Spec:
    Talents:
    Glyphs:
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):

    Gruul
    Spec:
    Talents:
    Glyphs:
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):

    Flamebender Ka' graz
    Spec:
    Talents:
    Glyphs:
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):

    Operator Thogar
    Spec:
    Talents:
    Glyphs:
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):

    The Blast Furnace
    Spec:
    Talents:
    Glyphs:
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):

    Kromog
    Spec:
    Talents:
    Glyphs:
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):

    The Iron Maidens
    Spec:
    Talents:
    Glyphs:
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):

    Blackhand
    Spec:
    Talents:
    Glyphs:
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):


    Thanks a bunch for your time and effort in advance,

    /Xavier


    PS: If something similar already exists please forgive me for making this post and point me towards it. I will be eternally grateful
    PS2: I just realized it may be useful to link my profile to give an indication of my gear, especially trinkets, for cooldown management purposes: eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/grim-batol/Xavieros/simple

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    Would love some feedback on this

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    I can feel your pain

    Hello there Xavier,

    I was looking on this post every day to see, if there is any elite warrior to help us all out. I have amost same experince like you do. I' m playing warrior for 9 years. And now we have just horrible times. I' m out of my mythic progres guild team, because we can't compede with classes like shamans, mages, rogues and what is worst, even Dks and Palas.... Only fight where we can be in at least top 5 dps, is darmac and thogar. I know, that we will rule in the end of this expac, like we do everytime. But who the fck cares. When we will be like 685-695il, and the rest of the progress team will be 700-705. There is no reason to take warriors even to the newcomming raid. I registered myself here to at least revive this thread and see some feedback. My guild is rank 1 on servers Anachronos, Alonsus and Kul tiras. And I joined only like 2 months ago, because my old guilds progres was stagnating. I don' t wanna leave this guild and also I don't wanna be dead weight! My character name is Xender-Anachronos on EU server. I allrrady called for some mythic guide to very good warrior youtuber Asmongold, but he didn' t make this video yet.
    Take care Xavier, and thank you for this post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buben007 View Post
    Hello there Xavier,

    I was looking on this post every day to see, if there is any elite warrior to help us all out. I have amost same experince like you do. I' m playing warrior for 9 years. And now we have just horrible times. I' m out of my mythic progres guild team, because we can't compede with classes like shamans, mages, rogues and what is worst, even Dks and Palas.... Only fight where we can be in at least top 5 dps, is darmac and thogar. I know, that we will rule in the end of this expac, like we do everytime. But who the fck cares. When we will be like 685-695il, and the rest of the progress team will be 700-705. There is no reason to take warriors even to the newcomming raid. I registered myself here to at least revive this thread and see some feedback. My guild is rank 1 on servers Anachronos, Alonsus and Kul tiras. And I joined only like 2 months ago, because my old guilds progres was stagnating. I don' t wanna leave this guild and also I don't wanna be dead weight! My character name is Xender-Anachronos on EU server. I allrrady called for some mythic guide to very good warrior youtuber Asmongold, but he didn' t make this video yet.
    Take care Xavier, and thank you for this post.
    I can give my input on what I would use , but it all comes down to mythic comp in most cases. Also, what you are saying about warriors not beeing competetive is bullshit.



    Beastlord Darmac
    Spec: Arms
    Talents: SD , DR, Avatar, AM
    Glyphs: MS + UR + FFA
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):

    Hans' gar and Franzok
    Spec: Arms
    Talents: SD, DR, Avatar (bloodbath), AM
    Glyphs: MS + UR + FFA
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):
    If you are good at keeping up with the bosses and your raid is good at keeping the bosses stacked during execute phase (in general as well) I would go with avatar, otherwise bloodbath as you only need 12 sec of uptime vs 20 with avatar to get full benefit from it.

    Oregorger
    Spec: Fury
    Talents: SD, SB, Avatar, Siegebreaker
    Glyphs: Rude int + UR + Enraged speed
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):
    Make sure to interupt for more dmg?

    Gruul
    Spec: Fury
    Talents: SD, SB, Avatar, AM/Siegebreaker
    Glyphs: UR + FFA
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):
    If Vial go AM if Scabbard go siegebreaker

    Flamebender Ka' graz
    Spec: Fury
    Talents: SD, DR, BS, Ravager
    Glyphs: UR + Wind and thunder + ffa
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):
    Scabbard probably BiS trinket on this fight, use on pull, use right after 1st wolves and use with all cds on 2nd wolf spawn.

    Operator Thogar
    Spec: Fury
    Talents: SD, DR, BS, Ravager
    Glyphs: Enraged speed + UR + FFA
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):
    Make sure to have zerk rage ready for AOE packs (so u can start right away)

    The Blast Furnace
    Spec: Arms
    Talents: SD, DR, BS, AM
    Glyphs: Rude int + UR + MS
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):
    Can rend up primal ele before explosion hit to not waste a global while it's active.

    Kromog only done once on my war so memory is abit fuzzy
    Spec: Fury
    Talents: SD, SB if u dont need hand dmg, Avatar if u dont need hand dmg, Siegebreaker if u dont need hand dmg
    Glyphs: UR + Wind and thunder + Enraged speed (?)
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):
    Save cds for pillars

    The Iron Maidens
    Spec: If on boat Fury, if not Arms
    Talents: Fury - SD, Shockwave(need it for stun, otherwise DR), BS, AM. Arms - SD, DR, Avatar/Bloodbath, ravager
    Glyphs: Fury - UR + Enraged speed + FFA Arms - MS + UR + SS
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):
    If on boat duty, save cds on pull for 1st boat.

    Blackhand - Not done so cant say for certain, can assume what to go for tho.
    Spec: Fury
    Talents: SD, SB, Avatar, AM
    Glyphs: UR + Enraged speed + Death from above (for more movement)
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):

    This is for progression that is, if u want to padd meter and get epeen or w/e u gotta look for someone else.
    Nowish <Envy> Washed up, classic hero - Feral + War dps/tank PoV-> http://sv.twitch.tv/viss3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buben007 View Post
    Hello there Xavier,

    I was looking on this post every day to see, if there is any elite warrior to help us all out. I have amost same experince like you do. I' m playing warrior for 9 years. And now we have just horrible times. I' m out of my mythic progres guild team, because we can't compede with classes like shamans, mages, rogues and what is worst, even Dks and Palas.... Only fight where we can be in at least top 5 dps, is darmac and thogar. I know, that we will rule in the end of this expac, like we do everytime. But who the fck cares. When we will be like 685-695il, and the rest of the progress team will be 700-705. There is no reason to take warriors even to the newcomming raid. I registered myself here to at least revive this thread and see some feedback. My guild is rank 1 on servers Anachronos, Alonsus and Kul tiras. And I joined only like 2 months ago, because my old guilds progres was stagnating. I don' t wanna leave this guild and also I don't wanna be dead weight! My character name is Xender-Anachronos on EU server. I allrrady called for some mythic guide to very good warrior youtuber Asmongold, but he didn' t make this video yet.
    Take care Xavier, and thank you for this post.
    Just a thought but maybe you're off your guild's progress team because you aren't figuring this stuff out for yourself?

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    beastlord :
    Fury
    talents : SD / Dragon roar / Bladestorm / ravager
    Glyphs: unending rage / enraged speed / bull rush
    playstyle: open with burst on boss. after few sec use ravager so adds will still sit in it for 4-5sec. next adds use BS. Keep max focus on enrage. u need it before zoo pack (1 pack u use Rv next one BS next one ravager and so on. dont stack RV and BS) On last phase after faultline is dead u go pop up every cd after his first jump. Nuke him asap use ravager just after u pop up ur cds. BS on 1st adds in this phase then u nuke him tilld death

    gruul:
    Fury
    talents: Bbath / Storm bolt / AM
    Playstyle: dps dont die.

    hans and franz:
    Arms
    talents : TFB / Dragon roar / Bbath / IDK - i use AM / SB due to movement)
    glyphs: Unending rage / Sweeping strikes / Resonating power

    oregorger:
    Fury
    SD / Storm bolt / Bbath / AM (on hc i use ravager)
    unending rage / enraged speed / rude interruption

    flamebender:
    Fury
    SD / Dragon roar / Bladestorm / Ravager (if ur fight is too short use AM)
    unending rage / enraged speed


    5 next bosses was not trying yet with guild on mythic so im not sure what to use (pretty sure AM on thogar but rest dunno)
    Last edited by mmocc46baa20b7; 2015-03-22 at 08:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heladys View Post
    Just a thought but maybe you're off your guild's progress team because you aren't figuring this stuff out for yourself?
    no he's likely off the progress team because cutting edge guilds are running with no warriors if they have the option. but theres that...

    i know id take a warrior that is here asking questions to improve himself over one who thinks he knows it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klepp0906 View Post
    no he's likely off the progress team because cutting edge guilds are running with no warriors if they have the option. but theres that...

    i know id take a warrior that is here asking questions to improve himself over one who thinks he knows it all.
    Name 1 top guild that did not use a warrior for progression in brf.
    Nowish <Envy> Washed up, classic hero - Feral + War dps/tank PoV-> http://sv.twitch.tv/viss3

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    Quote Originally Posted by klepp0906 View Post
    no he's likely off the progress team because cutting edge guilds are running with no warriors if they have the option. but theres that...

    i know id take a warrior that is here asking questions to improve himself over one who thinks he knows it all.
    Thank you for defending me tough:-). Problem is, that we have 7 melee(2wars/2dks/2rogues/1monk). And in every fight 1-2 melee are on the bench. I was low on il back then, so I was the one, who was on the bench every time. So when I am not on the mythic fight, I can' t really figure it out myself. Thats why I was also looking for some tips from exped mythic warriors, so I can do my best when I will get a chance. I was doing bosses which guild is progressing(myth) on hc, to test all options for spec/talents/glyphs. But that didn't help me. (Wipes/different setup/bosses not stacked etc./ lack of healing-> using def cds when I should DPS...... You know my points right?) So any info helps.

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    Only fight where warriors should get benched is Mythic Blackhand. Other than that we can pull our weight in every other BRF Mythic fight. Even more so with the ilvl increase.

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    i always wondered why avatar > bloodbath for singletarget?

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    Specialization, Talents & Glyphs per Mythic BRF Encounter

    Beastlord Darmac
    Spec:Fury
    Talents:BS/AM/Dragon Roar
    Glyphs:
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):You'll probably get more damage as fury because adds die so fast and other part of the fight is just single target.Arms might give you slightly better numbers for mythic,but don't even consider it on progress.

    Hans' gar and Franzok
    Spec:Arms
    Talents:Storm bolt BB/AM
    Glyphs:
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):get a good pc cause im playing it with 20 fps where i run around 60 stable on every other fight.Cleave as much as possible,dont die,be careful when the line starts rolling to not miss AA's because you're 1 yard too far.

    Oregorger
    Spec:Fury/Arms
    Talents:BB/Ravager/Stormbolt
    Glyphs:Rude Interruption
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):Fury for progress almost 100%.Try getting a bb/ravager on 2 boxes durring roll phase you should have it up.

    Gruul
    Spec:Fury
    Talents:Stormbolt/Avatar(Bloodbath)/AM
    Glyphs:Mortal strike
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):AM to get reck to line up with Vial,BB for mythic,Avatar for heroic.Always use leap before Petrify stuns you.

    Flamebender Ka' graz
    Spec:Arms/Fury
    Talents:BB/Ravagar/Dragon roar
    Glyphs:
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):BB/RAvager on wolves,spam execute into aknor and wolves.If you want to cheese meters just run Avatar/AM and never focus wolves exept for execute.

    Operator Thogar
    Spec:Fury/Arms
    Talents: Dragon Roar/Bladestorm/AM
    Glyphs:
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):You'll have bs for the first 2 set off ads,its usually gonna be late by abit on the split but you should still be able to get a full bladestorm off.

    The Blast Furnace
    Spec:Arms/Fury
    Talents: Dragon Roar/Bladestorm/AM
    Glyphs:rude interruption
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):Ask if you can go on operator's side,first 2 bladestorms should set you ahead of everyone.Try executing as much adds as possible.Interrupt as much as you can.

    Kromog
    Spec:Fury
    Talents: Dragon roar,BB/Ravager
    Glyphs:Wind and Thunder
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):Mythic>Go fury.You can go bladestorm to cheese meters or if your team doesnt have enough hands damage.

    The Iron Maidens
    Spec:Arms
    Talents: Dragon roar/Bladestorm/AM
    Glyphs:Sweeping strikes 100%
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):Keep rend up,don't let it fall off,this is extremely important.Keep sweeping strikes up,Bladestorm on cooldown unless 1 boss is coming off boat in the next 20 seconds,then delay.After 20% use bladestorm after you get rage capped and just keep executing with sweeping.

    Blackhand
    Spec:bench
    Talents:bench
    Glyphs:bench
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):bench
    In all seriousness tho,it's a god awful fight that i just swap to my shaman on.Run Stormbolt/Avatar/AM and ask to not get put up top.Hope you get above 30k after 20% with reck/vial/avatar.


    Search Vandárkholme on Draenor-EU for reference,can't post links.
    Last edited by mmocb43facfe8e; 2015-03-27 at 05:28 PM.

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    Heres what I use, and Just a thing to note I dont have Vial yet so I still use scabbard which is why I have Siegebreaker instead of AM

    Specialization, Talents & Glyphs per Mythic BRF Encounter

    Beastlord Darmac
    Spec:Fury
    Talents:SD, Dragon, BS, Ravager
    Glyphs:
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines): Use Bladestorm on the odd pact beasts and dragonroar/ravager on the evens

    Hans' gar and Franzok
    Spec:Arms
    Talents:SD, Dragon, BB, AM
    Glyphs:
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):

    Oregorger
    Spec:Fury
    Talents:SD, SB, Ava, Siegebreaker
    Glyphs: Interrupt
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):

    Gruul
    Spec:Fury
    Talents:SD, SB, Ava, Siegebreaker
    Glyphs:Rallying cry if you have trouble staying alive
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):

    Flamebender Ka' graz
    Spec:Fury
    Talents:SD, Dragon, BS, Ravager
    Glyphs:
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines): You can Pop Reck DR BS and Ravager on pull for Aknor and have them back up intime for wolves

    Operator Thogar
    Spec:Fury
    Talents:SD, Dragon, BS, Ravager
    Glyphs: Interrupt
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines): Interrupt Flamecallers for a slight dps increase

    The Blast Furnace
    Spec:Arms
    Talents:TfB, Dragon, BS, AM
    Glyphs: Interrupt, Sweeping Strikes
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines): Rend everything you can for extra rage

    Kromog
    Spec:Fury
    Talents:SD, Dragon, BS, Ravager
    Glyphs:Enraged Speed
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines): If you have DR and Ravager up check your timers for the next hands phase to see if you can safely use them, and Ravager away from yourself so you dont break yourself out too early

    The Iron Maidens
    Spec:Arms
    Talents:TfB, Dragon, BB, Ravager
    Glyphs: Sweeping Strikes
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines):

    Blackhand
    Spec:Fury
    Talents:SD, SB, Ava, Siegebreaker
    Glyphs:Enraged speed and Rallying cry are both useful here
    Encounter specific damage output optimalization tips & tricks (Max few lines): Don't go up onto stands

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