Il'Gynoth mythic 2nd p2 (in the eye)

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Hi everybody,

currently after one progress evening we were able to get in the last phase, but tentacles in the eye just raped us. To avoid hard-trying to get them kicked and burn the eye I heard something like that of a friend who's got clear and I dont know if he is just joking or not:

He said:

Use your bloodlust in the first eye-phase and burn down the eye below 45% and play the 2nd p1 clean down and you won't have the last phase in the eye cause the boss will be down by adds already? Is that true?

[Deja Thoris]

Good luck trying to get through the 2nd p1 once you've blown all your CD's in the eye.

It's terrible advice.

If you can get to the 2nd p2 then hit the interrupt button and kill the first set of adds. Not rocket surgery.

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Ranged just gotta interrupt the adds, people easily tunnel when they smell victory

[Grimbold of Skullcrusher]

We did it like this:

Used last in P2 outside. When we went inside the second time, we had all the people assigned to different Eyestalks (VSTUP means Entrance)



We killed the first set of adds, then we stacked to safespot, cursed blood came, 2nd set of eyestalk came, popped Spirit link - boss died. Hope this helps you.

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Not rocket surgery.

[Tojara]

You shouldn't need to use blood lust in the first eye phase. We generally saved lust and pots for the second outside phase, as honestly, that's the hardest part of the fight timing wise. Cleanly do that and the second outside isn't that bad.

There is a decent amount of movement inside the eye too, meaning lust isn't going to be as great as it sounds on paper. So while there are DPS gains (obviously) using it inside, it's probably not as efficient.

Generally if your DPS is good you should be able to push it low enough to where you kill the first set of eye stalks, and ignore the second set entirely. That's what we did well over a month ago and really had no problems. Use all your defensive and raid CDs on those second stalks, stand still and nuke the boss. You waste too much time running around killing the second set, and as long as range throw a couple interrupts (off GCD) you shouldn't lose that many people.

[Deleted]

Good luck trying to get through the 2nd p1 once you've blown all your CD's in the eye.

It's terrible advice.

If you can get to the 2nd p2 then hit the interrupt button and kill the first set of adds. Not rocket surgery.

Pretty much /thread from this.
If you're getting to the second P2, you're basically on the run to getting the kill, interupt the stalks and kill the boss. It's literally that easy mechanic that is going to stop you killing Mythic Il'gynoth and you not killing Mythic Il'gynoth.

[Deleted]

Thanks for all the feedback guys, I think we just have to remember this:

Ranged just gotta interrupt the adds, people easily tunnel when they smell victory

Should be ok if we nuke the first adds, kick the 2nd and bunch up with all the group heal and spirit link.

Will keep you updated!

[Acidbaron]

Appoint a kill group for the eye, ideally made out of classes that benefit and get increased damage at lower percentiles (warrior execute fex)

Let everyone but those 4-5 people sit on the eye the rest deal with tentacles depending on how good your team is you don't even have to appoint people to specific spots, i dislike micro management as it generally gives people an excuse rather then providing results as in (that tentacle over there wasn't my problem)

We kill the first wave and maybe even second it's generally third before the third sets spawn.

[Osinin]

Been doing this since our first kill quite a few months ago , just makes the 2nd heart phase a joke really

We use BL + CDs on the first heart phase and pots on the 2nd outside phase tentacles.

What works for one raid group may not work for another, that's why there's different strategies and part of the exploratory phase of learning a boss encounter

Interesting, we are working on this now.

How did you deal with the 2 big adds at the start of p2 and their bloods?

Did you burn both together and then kill all adds together in one go? Or did you spread them out?

[lawomous]

What we do is Heroism inside the first eye phase and get it to about 42%, but save 2nd potions for the Dominators.

The 2nd eye phase after a good heroism push is so low it dies in like 15 seconds. Eyestalks barely have time to spawn, just nuke the boss.

Without using Heroism on the first eye, it's much sketchier in there and you have to kill the first set of tentacles and hope to interrupt the second ones before losing everyone.

[Kaizenberg]

Lusting in the 1st eye phase can work. My guild pops it after the second wave of purple creep goes out in the 1st Eye Room. This allows us to use the remainder of the herosim to quickly burn the tentacles outside and AoE the 6 ichors at once in preparation for the horror.

Benefits: Gives you an extra buffer if you have DPS dead going into the 2nd Eye Phase or people fail interrupts. Also you still get to use the heroism to start ahead coming out.

Cons: You waste about ~10 seconds of up time in transition. You also won't have it for the first Horror so DPS will need to make it up.

[Cheze]

you really shouldn't need to lust in the eye, with how the encounter works now. Having lust up during the transition back to the outside seems like a giant waste to me.

we lust on the dominators in the second phase 1, then in the second eye kill the first round of eyestalks and just toss interrupts at the second wave while we burn.

[Bobthegoat]

As for the OP. Here's a detailed run down on how to handle the last heart phase.

When you start phase 1 for the second time, you need to maximize your efficiency to transition cleanly into the second phase 2 or assign good interrupts.

If you want to transition cleanly into second phase 2, doing some or all of the following helps: You can gain time by killing 3 bloods away from the eye so do this ideally during the death blossoms. You can also gain time by making sure to kill 1 deathglare tentacle AFTER the 8 blobs explode near the start (bring it low while the 8 blobs are being walked to the eye, but tell your dps to be 100% sure the 8 blobs are dead, and then wait another 2 seconds before finishing it), and get the 2 people who are targeted by the 2 blobs from the deathglare to run to the eye where melee can dps them down while the ranged deal with the 2 corruptors. Finally, just before the 2 corruptors spawn on the left, there will be 2 deathglares spawning. Kill one of them and do the same as before, get the 2 people targeted to go to the eye where melee can dps them down while the ranged deal with the corruptors. Whenever 2 deathglares spawn, its much easier to just kill 1 and interrupt the other one while you clean up the blobs. Just make sure the second one dies around the same time as you run out of blobs. This will reduce raid movement and give an increase in dps and survivability. Another way to save time is by moving the stacking point when the 8 blobs explode to a location where you can interrupt / kill deathglares and nuke corruptors without moving out of the spirit link.

Doing this you should kill the Nightmare Horror (lazor beam tank add) around 30 seconds before more adds spawn, letting you dps the 4 blobs down 1 by 1 and transition into the final phase on high hp. This means that the deahtglare tentacles on the last inside phase cannot 1 shot anyone.

If you are not efficient and you need to AOE down the 4 blobs that spawn from the last Nightmare Horror, everyone will enter the last inside phase with low hp, meaning you need to have good interrupts assigned so you don't die. This is also a perfectly viable way of doing it.

Delaying entering the last phase 2 is not an option as you instantly get overrun with adds and wipe.

For the second set of deathglares on the last inside phase, stacking up with a spirit link is something i never thought of and a good idea. You need to stand still and nuke adds/boss at this point anyway (no point spreading with the debuff). So the spirit link and nuking boss is a nice idea.

Use pots on them and burn it down. When the bloods spawn you deal with them in a similar way to in P1, where you gather them (DK Grip/No slows+Kite) and AoE > Blow all Healer CDs. Your DPS needs to be fairly on point and ranged have to be ready to run out with heavy defensive CDs/immunities if they get the debuff by the corruptor tentacles as having that puddle in the raid clump during #CDHappyHour is going to lead to death(s), whereas 1-2 deaths from those particular people with the corrputor debuff can be combat ressed (as there's nothing to die from in the fight before then)

This or what we do is just have everyone spread inside the spirit link (like 5 yards across in total). The problem is if the person with the debuff is standing directly on the entire raids head.

[Waltzinblack]

The only way my guild managed to kill it during progress was lusting in the 2nd eye phase. Makes it a piece of cake. Have always ran the same strategy ever since.