---------- Post added 2011-10-27 at 04:54 PM ----------
Someone does something nice that can have no other effect then beeing helpful people in the long run.
Yet you feel the need to beat on him.
Your very unfriendly remarks behind the anonimity of the internet, atleast for me, are anything but impressive.
I for once appreciate the effort and would like to thank the OP for this.
Floppi Mage on DSH server: http://eu.battle.net/wow/de/characte.../Floppi/simple
Thank you very much for this Swizzle, I'll be keeping an eye on the list as it is developed. ♥
Wow, that's amazing that a place holder thread raged someone so hard. Obviously this is no where near final as things will change between now and then. I imagine the Int gains alone will outweigh the 4set of t12 for arcane. The fire and frost are looking good thus far, curious to see what other pieces get thrown in there.
To pixul, chill brah, if you are going to get raged over a chance of information being incorrect, you shouldn't read any thread in these forums.
Absolutely, there is no doubt that heroic tier 13 will be BiS for Arcane Mages simply because of the intellect gains alone. I do however wonder how the post-nerf DTR will compare to the best weapons of the new tier.
normal DW trinket gives whooping 880intellect which is 880SP some crit(dont know how much) and 95.04mp5 and 13200mana so i think this will beat SOW right??
im not quiet sure about http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=77203 trinket 458int is 458sp with 49.464 6870mana will beat SOW but most def heroic version will(these are all normal version btw)
http://oce.op.gg/summoner/userName=dw+soul+roc in oceanic now Lol
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---------- Post added 2011-10-27 at 11:08 PM ----------
I KNOW IT'S NOT COMPLETE, BUT I AM SLEEPY."
So I'm just going to assume that you read about 0 of the actual OP and just went with trash talk? Gotcha, guess that's typical behavior on your part.
However, I do suggest you calm down the attitude a bit (I've actually never seen you post a list of any sort), but I would hate to have to put that point tally to 25 and not have your pleasant posts for two full weeks (every post you've made in this thread is actually intractable, I'm being lenient with the whole Blizzcon just happened and everyone is super excited, but that won't last long on my end).
PS- I read your post, and it doesnt change the fact that your list is retarded and has no merit for being posted other than being posted entirely too early and with no research being done prior to the post... Thats like posting the summary of a book before its even been written.
Last warning, any posts by user or anyone else past this point not discussing possible BiS items next patch will be infracted.
Last edited by Swizzle; 2011-10-27 at 11:18 PM.
The Arcane list makes sense to me. Like when I first read the T13 bonuses I thought "oh wow this will be awesome, a 20 second CD on Arcane Power!" but I hadn't even thought about losing the 10% reduction from the current 4 set. So essentially if you are using AP on cooldown (which I figure you should since you would just be wasting the 4 piece bonus at that point) that would mean you would have a fairly passive 10% increase, and if you go even further you can say it technically is a 20% increase since you lose the 10% reduction. That to me sounds like a fairly awful bonus but the haste is still nice, just the Arcane Power part scares me seeing how important mana conservation is to the Arcane spec.
Also does anyone happen to know if the Shard of Woe nerf in 4.3 is going to further reduce the benefit for non holy/nature spells? They already nerfed it to 205 for other spell schools which isn't reflected on the tooltip, so do you know if they will further reduce that 205 down to something like ~105 when they make the trinket 205 for holy/nature or do you think they will take it down to 205 for all classes.
I just wanted to thank Swizzle for putting up this post, even though it's not done yet. I am sure he will take the time when he has it, to finish up his work and to show us his opinion about what's going to be our gear (most likely) in 4.3. I hope to see the complete list one of these days, as I would like to start some comparison myself et cetera (I realise I could do it without his list, but I'm kinda low on time at the moment).
Again, thanks for posting this thread Swizzle, atleast then we know it's being done by a capable mage .
I guess you will just have to use AM more during conservation since that has no mana cost.
given this is a work in progress, i figure ill make a few suggestions that havent been mentioned yet
havent looked at reforging / statweights / caps or w.e, just some options with large INT increases
Opal of the Secret Order
Bracers of the Banished
Gloves of Liquid Smoke
Cord of the Slain Champion
Last edited by reverendball; 2011-10-28 at 09:19 AM.
I already had a few questions in mind about the bonus but I doubt they can be answered before the patch goes live. For example since this is a stacking buff I would assume you can cancel it, so will it be possible to get 1 stack, click it off, and then get 10 more for 77 seconds off the CD rather than just 70? That would guarantee you 100% uptime.