question about ctc

[wontonheroe]

So first off, I'm a mainspec Holydin with quite a good offspec of tank set. We just got 6/7 H in our 10m guild and are going to put some solid attempts in on H Rag. I don't have 1st chance at tank gear, so that's why I'm wearing a mixup of gear, but I think I'm able to tank it. Since our current OT is a bear with lacking gear (fresh 85, speed leveled to replace the OT we lost) I'm going to help tank.

Completely unbuffed, I'm at:
15.41 dodge
14.91 parry
68.10 block

Isn't CTC capped dodge+block+parry+ 5% miss >= 102.4

With this current setup I'm actually way over at 103.42

However, my ElvUI says that for a ?? Boss, that I'm only at 101.02

ElvUI calculates a ?? to have 4.4 miss, and it drops my dodge/parry/block just slightly, down to:
14.81 dodge
14.31 parry
67.5 block

So which is correct? If the first setup is right, I can cut out a bit of mastery and get a lot more HP/dodge/parry. But if not I'm pretty close with raid buffs, maybe a little short. Thanks in advance.

my toon is kamkazidonut, on ghostlands
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TLDR, what is the correct CTC calculation?

[sinisterwyvern]

There used to be a script you could run but last time I looked at that it was in wrath with the defense stat going on. If I can find something specific for ya i'll get back to you.

[Oerba Yun Fang]

I use this in a macro:

/run dr=function(x)return 1/(1/16+0.9560/x)end;DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Need 102.4 - Currently at: "..string.format("%.2f", GetDodgeChance()+GetBlockChance()+GetParryChance()+5+dr(floor(GetCombatRatingBonus(CR_DEFE NSE_SKILL))*0.04)))

Also, here's a link to your armory for you: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...zidonut/simple

[sinisterwyvern]

I use this in a macro:



Also, here's a link to your armory for you: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...zidonut/simple

There we go, but I did a copy and paste of that for my own character and nothing comes up?

[Oerba Yun Fang]

There we go, but I did a copy and paste of that for my own character and nothing comes up?

It doesn't work for me, either, when I just copy/paste it into the chat field, but it works fine when I put it in a macro. My prot pally alt comes up as "Need 102.4 - Currently at: 91.45"

[Eon Drache]

Yes the CTC is accurate on your ElvUI. It changes depending on your targets level. Target a lv25 and you'll see it jump bigtime. Target a lv85 and you'll get the amount you see in your character screen. Target a lv88 or lv?? then it will drop.

Edit: I believe you need 102.4 when targetting a level 85... So against a lv?? you have 100%.

[MorphexEU]

Edit: I believe you need 102.4 when targetting a level 85... So against a level 88 you have 100%.

Correct

[Tatsumasa]

If you're at 103.42% your 2 options for getting that closer to the 102.4% is either stam or more avoidance. If you have access to a decent spreadsheet it's easy to just go through and replace some of your gems and get yourself as close to 102.4% as possible while swapping in stam/parry/dodge gems depending on your personal choice.

[Eon Drache]

Correct

Aren't all raid bosses or ?? Marked as automatically being 3 levels higher than you so that the rule for avoidance and crit will always apply to them?

[MorphexEU]

Aren't all raid bosses or ?? Marked as automatically being 3 levels higher than you so that the rule for avoidance and crit will always apply to them?

I stand slightly corrected. :P

From wowhead; Level ?? - http://www.wowhead.com/npc=53691
From Official forum: 87-88 - http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/zone/firelands/shannox

Therefore three lvls above causing the crit / avoidance / hit / expertise rule. As you said.

[Deleted]

the thing is both your adon and the macro are correct you just have to remember the adon will always just need 100% only he macro needs to be above that.

[starmartyr]

You need to have 100% avoidance to not be hit by an 85. every level above 85 removes .2% dodge, parry, block, and miss each. So 100% for 85 100.8% for 86 101.6% for 87 and 102.4% for a skull or 88.

[wontonheroe]

OK, i was getting a bit confused because I knew of 102.4, but the ElvUi changing my avoidance number was confusing.

So, looking at an 85, i need 102.4, but looking at a ?? I just need 100% using ElvUi.

Thanks guys.