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    I've only been very loosely following this but I was curious if someone could explain the relationship between classes and jobs? Or at least point me in the right direction.

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    Classes are:
    Conjurer (healer)
    Thaumaturge (nuker)
    Maruder (warrior)
    Puglist (monk)
    Lacer (Dragoon)

    Like FFXI (if you played that), you can level multiple jobs with 1 character, so I can have a Conjurer and Thaumaturge on the same character. The benefit of class is, you can "equip" some of other Class's abilities. As a Thaumaturge, but also has a Conjurer, I can equip healing spell on my Thaumaturge (which some quest pretty much require you to, yes you the quest with the mage + demon combo), you can also equip Rezz and other useful spell from Conjurer.

    However, the moment you becomes a Job (Thaumaturge becomes Black Mage), you lose that flexibility, you can no longer equip spells from Conjurer and such, however, in return you gain specialised powerful spells and abilities that only Black Mages can use, like Convert (health into mana), Ancient Magic and such.

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    Seems like that covers the disciples of war and magic but what of the hand/land disciples?

    Does only one class become one job or is it more like a magic class can become a magic job, not just one.

    Can you get all jobs with one character? If so wouldn't that mean you would need to go through a class again?

    I didn't play FFXI at all so its very new to me and the main site isn't giving specifics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trogie View Post
    Seems like that covers the disciples of war and magic but what of the hand/land disciples?

    Does only one class become one job or is it more like a magic class can become a magic job, not just one.

    Can you get all jobs with one character? If so wouldn't that mean you would need to go through a class again?

    I didn't play FFXI at all so its very new to me and the main site isn't giving specifics.
    War and Magic are the combat, Hand and Land are the crafting. Hand and Land are just crafting and you do crafting stuff without the rule sets of the combat ones.

    Two class prerequisite is needed for a job.

    Yes.
    No and yes. If it uses different classes you need to go through and level those classes, if it doesn't / have overlapping, then no.
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    sooo anyone else getting kinda neurotic and semi paranoid about all the pre order and email stuff? They need to just let us bloody register our codes already.

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    So many people wanting to be a drg. I remember this 8 yrs ago. Maybe Yoshi P won't make it "lolarg" this time. :P

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    Why are dragoons going to be so popular? My friend is thinking of maining that. The only other Melee dps option is the Monk....? Warrior and Paladin are tanks from what I've read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverkit View Post
    Why are dragoons going to be so popular? My friend is thinking of maining that. The only other Melee dps option is the Monk....? Warrior and Paladin are tanks from what I've read.
    Dragoons are a classic FF class so alot of people love em...

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    Melee DPS if I remember correctly: Lancer, Monk, Marauder (Kind of an off tank)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorrior View Post
    sooo anyone else getting kinda neurotic and semi paranoid about all the pre order and email stuff? They need to just let us bloody register our codes already.
    I am, but these things tend to work out in the end

    How is tanking in this game, I have always wanted to tank in a MMO but just never played a class that was a tank as a main?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    I'm rolling on *Behemoth* >.> Apparently that's a RP server so that's all good for me.
    I was told Gilgamesh and Balmung are the RP servers. :S
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeatherRae View Post
    I was told Gilgamesh and Balmung are the RP servers. :S
    Well, either or will be my play...realms XD.



    EDIT: My biggest criticism is there is no two handed sword class. Yeah people mention Dark Knight but it seems like a warrior with dark powers and that's what angers me. Meh guess I'll roll either Marurader and RP with a two handed sword.... -_-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fearoth View Post
    I am, but these things tend to work out in the end

    How is tanking in this game, I have always wanted to tank in a MMO but just never played a class that was a tank as a main?
    Lets just say anyone who has only played WoW since wrath will be in for a shock....This game CAN punish you abd while you can ROFLSTOMP dungeons once ya get used to em it can still require some strategy even if simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fearoth View Post
    I am, but these things tend to work out in the end

    How is tanking in this game, I have always wanted to tank in a MMO but just never played a class that was a tank as a main?
    It's not too bad. Same as most, but remember to switch targets, watch out for any CC from party members, and use Flash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorrior View Post
    Lets just say anyone who has only played WoW since wrath will be in for a shock....This game CAN punish you abd while you can ROFLSTOMP dungeons once ya get used to em it can still require some strategy even if simple.
    O that sounds great , Can't wait for that then. Paladin is the main tanking job (but not the only one) correct? Will tanks will be rare like in most MMOs or not so much since one can switch class/jobs at just about anytime?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sergel02 View Post
    It's not too bad. Same as most, but remember to switch targets, watch out for any CC from party members, and use Flash.
    Ahem and thus raise Gladiator enough for flash...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fearoth View Post
    O that sounds great , Can't wait for that then. Paladin is the main tanking job (but not the only one) correct? Will tanks will be rare like in most MMOs or not so much since one can switch class/jobs at just about anytime?
    Not sure and I mainly did the first 3 instances...The copperbell mined have a fight where you gotta defeat a bunch of super weak enemies(but look out for losing too much TP as a marauder and mp as a Gladiator) but then a boss comes eho goes STRAIGHT for the healer....Trick is to position your party across from the entrance where he spawns.

    Another fight there has an enemy you have to blow up...But to do this you gotta get a very high aoe damage monster near to kill it and avoid AOE.

    Then another dungeon has a lightning based creature avoid the water and pull it out.

    Those are some of the more memorable early fights and it just build up as it goes...Also it will auto scale your level so no overpowering the places.

    And yeah Marauders become warriors and they tank with 2h axes while the Gladiator/paladin uses daggers/swords and a shield.

    Lancers/Dragoons use lances Pugilists/monks fist weapons and TBH I didn't fully keep track of the other ones LOL.

    Oh archers/bards use a bow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffeth View Post
    Melee DPS if I remember correctly: Lancer, Monk, Marauder (Kind of an off tank)
    Let's not forget that Marauders/Warriors are tanks. Full tanks, like they can only queue as tanks. Nothing DPS about them.

    Just to clarify
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    Well, either or will be my play...realms XD.



    EDIT: My biggest criticism is there is no two handed sword class. Yeah people mention Dark Knight but it seems like a warrior with dark powers and that's what angers me. Meh guess I'll roll either Marurader and RP with a two handed sword.... -_-
    My criticism is the lack of a stealth class; why no Thief/Rogue or Ninja/Assassin? I was disappointed when I looked at the available jobs....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mstieler View Post
    My criticism is the lack of a stealth class; why no Thief/Rogue or Ninja/Assassin? I was disappointed when I looked at the available jobs....
    I feel the same but if there isn't a thief/ninja class in the works to be added later I will be extremely surprised. That's one of the best things with ff14 that you don't get with most mmos if they release a new class that you really want to play you aren't forced to abandon your character you have put so many hours into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryngo Blackratchet View Post
    Let's not forget that Marauders/Warriors are tanks. Full tanks, like they can only queue as tanks. Nothing DPS about them.

    Just to clarify
    Can a templar queue as dps? I've yet to see one do it, but I have no idea.

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