So glad this game's developers do not have faction favoritism

[corebit]

One of the reasons I quit WoW is because of the blatant hard-on the developers have for the Horde faction. I play both factions myself for the story and lore, but just couldn't sit and watch Blizzard just make fun of the other half of their players, first with the whole Cataclysm treatment, then the Blizzcon incident, and now a Dev Watercooler trying to repair the damage they made.

So far Bioware is keeping a very level-headed approach. I hope they keep staying classy and do not repeat what Blizzard did!

[vizzle]

You guys really make a big deal over something that doesn't really matter.

[Deleted]

I can't believe that a silly argument like that would be a reason to stop playing a game one likes.
Does it really matters so much to you what the developers think about a certain aspect in the game?

I think it's rather 'emo' and shows one will have difficulties to see things in perspective.

[Deleted]

This just in: War isn't always fair.

[Deleted]

One of the reasons I quit WoW is because of the blatant hard-on the developers have for the Horde faction. I play both factions myself for the story and lore, but just couldn't sit and watch Blizzard just make fun of the other half of their players, first with the whole Cataclysm treatment, then the Blizzcon incident, and now a Dev Watercooler trying to repair the damage they made.

So far Bioware is keeping a very level-headed approach. I hope they keep staying classy and do not repeat what Blizzard did!

realy dude?fking realy?why on earth ppl qq about factions?just play the dam game lol -.-
btw see ya in wow in few weeks,how i love ppl that say they quit wow for another game then you see them coming back,like any other game came out so far lol

[corebit]

I can't believe that a silly argument like that would be a reason to stop playing a game one likes.
Does it really matters so much to you what the developers think about a certain aspect in the game?

I think it's rather 'emo' and shows one will have difficulties to see things in perspective.

It's one of the reasons, not the sole reason.

And I didn't rage about it, it's a game after all. Frankly I don't care anymore what they do to "restore" Alliance content, but it's just a ploy to reassure their playerbase to stop the subscription from further bleeding. But I prefer that developers at least put some effort in balancing their content so that it is enjoyable by both sides of the playerbase.

[DaGhostDS]

Im still waiting on them apologizing for how they treated paladins for years.

At least this game isnt based around the idea that some dev need their pet class buffed to hell compared to the rest.

[corebit]

In SWTOR, the Empire is being the aggressor and the Republic is on the defensive. Just like the Horde/Alliance conflict right now. It's great! I don't mind that one side is all on the offensive or wins this or that battle. It furthers the story and I understand.

What I don't like is that they deliberately make the players of one side unable to experience that conflict, and if you complain about it, you are told to read books and stuff, just to balance things that never happen in the game.

Here is an example of why Bioware is being very balanced. Take the first dungeon instance Republic and Empire experience: Esseles and Black Talon.

- Republic players must defend the Esseles from an Imperial boarding party and fight them back.
- Empire players in the Black Talon must pursue a traitor general defecting to the Republic.

BOTH keep the players engaged and interested in the big conflict between Republic and Empire, which is 100x better than what the Alliance get when they finish their quests: "Lol you lost" "But how???" "Sorry we aren't showing it" "But you win in another conflict! It happens in XX book see?"

[Wishblade]

/yawn, some people take things too seriously.

[Deleted]

If you quit for such a terrible reason, then I suggest you quit SWTOR because a lightsaber will never be visually upgraded.

Equally brilliant.

Oh, and there's no "faction favoritism" - if both of the factions were exactly equal at all times, it wouldn't be interesting. Lore-wise, obviously, since it doesn't directly affect the players in any way or form gameplay-wise, anyway.

[Deleted]

Im still waiting on them apologizing for how they treated paladins for years.

At least this game isnt based around the idea that some dev need their pet class buffed to hell compared to the rest.

I feel like I have to make an appropriate response for this.

At least WoW isn't based around making more money on an average Bioware game by enforcing a subscription.

Oh and haha, apologise for treating Paladins badly. That's funny, I'll give you that.

For whiners: I'm not necessarily bashing SWTOR, just responding in a similar manner.

[Sargerus]

You guys really make a big deal over something that doesn't really matter.

Agreed, since we all know in the end the Sith will be defeated.

[Bane Falcon]

Hrm... I could go off on a huge rant here, but I think I'll make another point that should be made, about threads like this popping up on the other side, now.


I play WoW. I enjoy playing WoW.

I played SW:G and KotOR II.
I played the beta this weekend for SW:TOR, and enjoyed it.



I enjoy zombie movies, with plenty of blood and guts. I enjoy having sex. I enjoy cooking bacon and eating it. However, JUST BECAUSE I ENJOY DIFFERENT THINGS, DOES NOT MEAN THEY SHOULD BE CONSTANTLY COMPARED TO ONE ANOTHER ALL THE GOD DAMNED TIME.

Not sure which one's getting more annoying, the "Zomg this game is gunna kill wow" threads, or the "I'm so glad I left WoW because of [insert arbitrary reason that is likely paralleled in any game they switched to]"

/end rant

[Fiddlesnarf]

I for one actually agree with the OP, its obvious the people here either didn't care about the lore or played Horde. I need to actually like the story and lore in a game to be able to enjoy it, I didn't like how Blizzard handled the Cataclysm story either.

[Deleted]

True. Thank goodness we're talking about a virtual environment made for paying customers who don't appreciate being trolled by the very company who sells the product, in favor of another category of customers.

We're talking about a virtual enviroment made for paying customers meant to simulate war.

[corebit]

If you quit for such a terrible reason, then I suggest you quit SWTOR because a lightsaber will never be visually upgraded.

Equally brilliant.

Oh, and there's no "faction favoritism" - if both of the factions were exactly equal at all times, it wouldn't be interesting. Lore-wise, obviously, since it doesn't directly affect the players in any way or form gameplay-wise, anyway.

Um learn to read what I typed above? I'm NOT asking for everything to be equal at all times. See I don't have a problem at all with Empire being the agressor and winning battles. That's how the story is supposed to be. Same with the Horde/Alliance conflict. Let me repeat: I don't have a problem with that.

However when one side does not get to experience any of the so-called conflict, and the player absolutely has no input in losing or winning those battles, then it becomes an inferior experience for them. Understand?

[Bane Falcon]

One of the reasons I quit WoW is because of the blatant hard-on the developers have for the Horde faction. I play both factions myself for the story and lore, but just couldn't sit and watch Blizzard just make fun of the other half of their players, first with the whole Cataclysm treatment, then the Blizzcon incident, and now a Dev Watercooler trying to repair the damage they made.

One last point: Since you play both factions for the lore, you think that Warcraft I-III were all about Horde fanboying?

[Deleted]

I also think that other devs , expecially wow devs favor the [insert the other faction that I don't play ] a lot !!!

alas , 100% of my defeat rate is because the devs support [ insert all the classes but the class that I don't play ] , it's farly obvious !!

In fact as this thread talks about things of great importance lets talk about this .... didn't you notice that deathwing is mainly red ? .... way to go blizz ... favouring red over ... blue and green ... it's called RGB you know ? ....

these devs nowadays ... I'm with you op !

P.S. : It's fairly obvious that anyone that says I'm wrong is either :
- one of the faction I don't play ( so you don't understand cause the storys about you )
- one of the classes I don't play ( so you don't understand cause it's easy to you )
- Green or Blue

[Shinryu]

Since this is about SWTOR and not WOW on the SWTOR board, maybe keep the WOW arguments out...

But I do agree, it does seem more balanced so far, for most major gains Republic would get (like say freeing Revan in a flashpoint), Empire gets their own equivalent (in this case, killing Revan shortly thereafter in another flashpoint). Who knows how it'll turn out in the future, because it will be hard to balance out; lore says the Empire/Sith will eventually be nearly wiped out, leading to Darth Bane and the whole Rule of 2 ordeal and the like up to the movies. Granted, Bane himself won't emerge for about another 2000 years, but it still suggests an eventual decline of the Empire with Republic gains, the cold war at most will only last ~1000 years since by the time you get to 2000 BBY, the last major war erupts between the sith and jedi that will last for a thousand years up to 1000 BBY and the near sith extinction thereafter.

But perhaps I'm getting ahead of myself, we have another 1000 years of gleeful sith dominance to enjoy before decline, may as well make the most of it

[corebit]

Agreed, since we all know in the end the Sith will be defeated.

But nowhere did I say that Bioware was showing any bias, actually the complete opposite.