Why are people praising the LFR?!

[veehro]

Ok first of I am not trying to troll here. Despite what you may think, this thread is not to start a reaction out of some one while I sit back and laugh. I am actualy curious of how people are thinking about this issue.

Before I begind, a little about myself.
I have played wow since launch, been a member of various guilds, casuals, leveling, friends, hardcore and at one point I have been a guildmaster myself.
During this time I have had relationships going on in my life, jobs, study, university, and even a period while I was doing nothing at all.

Now from my point of view, the END GAME, was only fun while you had new bosses to do. The ideea of 25/10 people working together to down a boss was really awesome. The reward for downing a boss was the actual excitment of SEEING new content for the first time. Once that happened, and everething was on farm, it was quite a tedious grind untill the new patch it.

Basicly pre WOTLK, I never raned out of content, I allways had something to look for and the game was great.

How ever once wotlk came, the game became a continous farm and grind of geting new items and doing that one same dungeon over and over and over again.
Sure there were the hardmodes, but the problem is that you don't get that epic feeling of SEEING new content for the first time, you already saw everething once you cleared it normal.

And even if some one fancyed doing hardmodes, the number of guildmembers quiting the game until the next patch was so annoyingly high (at least in the guilds I was in), that the reason guilds didn't progress was more due to loss of members rather then lack of skill.

All In all, for all the people who were happy killing deathwing in the first week of launch, I have but one question.

-What are you going to do now for the reminder of 8+ months till MoP if there are no more patches?!
-Will it be as fun as if you knew you had another raid instance to look up to?!

[Disgruntler]

Very good questions.

I look at it as an opportunity to prepare (in multiple ways) for the challenge of normal. Being able to defeat something on easy mode doesn't make overcoming the normal level challenge mean less, any more than beating a challenge on normal mode makes beating the heroic lessened.

The thing is, I don't see LFR as a necessary grind. I know that it will, very quickly, not be of use to me. It's similiar to heroic 5-mans; they're for gearing up, and practicing mechanics, but I'm not going to overglorify their importance to me.

[Kisho]

We're praising the LFR because it provides something new to do. For a lot of players, even though Normal and Heroic mode raids existed, they were out of reach for various reasons. Either they couldn't commit to a set raiding schedule, or they didn't like the idea of organised raiding. Certainly there'll be the ones who found normal and heroic modes too difficult, but those aren't as numerous as you may think.

So with LFR, when the option is doing LFR mode or not raiding at all... Then the choice is clear. LFR has provided new content for many players, so of course it is something to be praised.

Obviously, from your post, LFR is clearly not meant for you. Fair enough. Don't use it, in that case. The rest of us who it is intended for will love the extra content for us to experience.

[Deleted]

It's raiding in itself which is fun, not only seeing new bosses, at least for me.

[Frog]

what will we do? the same thing we did when ICC was the last content patch! bitch and moan about shitty WoW while running DS every week!

[Deleted]

It gives us regulars who have 40+ hour working weeks a chance to look at the new content, still have a bit of a challenge, and work around our real life.

BTW OP, best way to gain a response from the community, however it is a shame we have to start our posts with "I am not trolling ..." to start an intelligent conversation.

[Deleted]

first off i dont think that this patch will last for 8 months. not now when the Q_Q of ppl forced blizz to release everything faster. Anyway i for one will use the lfr thingie to gear up my alts, then when they have the proper tools to survive normal mode i will do that. Continue down the line i will do heroic with them when i have the tools needed from normals. As regarding my main i am looking for a hc guild to kick start everything. Coming from a semi hard core raiding guild i like the heroic progress, i am looking forward to work my way up and kick deathwings ass in heroic! i dont care if i have killed him in normal, i wont see it as a true kill until ive nuked his ass in heroic.

And for repeating the same raid for 5-8 months forward. All i can say is that i progressed on raggy hc. with somewhat 50+ tries. And i enjoyed every second of that fight, even tho it was my 5th, 10th, 15th time i still enjoyed the fight because it was fun. I have only experienced the dw fight in lfr on my resto alt. and i thot i was ok. It wasnt raggy but it was ok. But hey. i did that piece of ass boss baleroc 20+ times. But it was still ok.

[Siri]

Sure there were the hardmodes, but the problem is that you don't get that epic feeling of SEEING new content for the first time, you already saw everething once you cleared it normal.

I completely disagree and that's one of the reasons I like LFR.
Another reason is that I have a lot of alts I play and I can't really be bothered to form real pugs for all of them, it's too slow. I just want to raid a bit on my various characters, I have no desire to clear heroic modes on all of them.

[casserole]

Hopefully D3 will be released right between now and MoP.

[Shivaen]

I like the LFR because it gives me a chance to gear up outside of my normal raid day. I only raid once a week for various reasons, and I came back from a six month hiatus a week or two before the patch hit so it enables me to catch up with guildmates. I still find it a huge achievement when I down bosses in DS with my guild, LFR just feels different. I appreciate that it's there for my alts as well and i'm sure those who have no time to raid are loving it.

- What are you going to do now for the reminder of 8+ months till MoP if there are no more patches?!

Level the billions of alts I have aquired and continue with achievement hunting on my main. There is no way i'm going to be at a loss of what to do.

[ComputerNerd]

Whether you clear it on LFR or on normal you are no longer seeing it for the first time.
Just another pointless flaming of the raid finder from a person it is not aimed it.
Nothing you have stated there is specific to, nor even remotely related to the raid finder yet the title of the thread makes your view clear.

You have had experience at varying levels of play, and well I congratulate you on having been able to do that.
However you are not representative of the community, you are not me.

The raid finder is aimed at what is a substantial portion of the pve community which does not have the convenience of several hours in the evening to devote to raiding.
If you do not need it then good for you, but please do not flame something which is aimed at someone who is not you simply because it is not worthy of your time.

For some of us it's a great opportunity we did not have previously and for that reason I welcome it.

I provide a question myself.
Why are those not in need of, but equally willing to use it so keen to criticise it ?

[Uriel]

i think the OP is right. I think you need a incentive to gear up to get far, to kill the final boss.

Honestly my Guild sucks at raiding. We took alot of time to kill LK in 10 normal. We steadily improved killing a new boss every now and then.. gear our member up so we have a change against the next bosses. But we all had something in common. We wanted to see and kill the Bastard Arthas for what he has done. We did it and it was awesome.

Then we did the same with heroicmodes >geared up > kill a boss every next ID spend several weeks with Arthas. It was fun, it was a challenge, it filled the time till cata came out. It didnt feel like grinding, it felt like improving learning. It felt like you became a hero who saved the world ...of warcraft.

Havent tried out LFR so far. in Whole Cata i hadnt the incentive to raid. I did raid Blackrock 3 times but it wasnt that fun to me. Most of my guildies felt the same.

[Deleted]

Thing that I noticed was that LFR were really useful when I were going to apply for a guild. Not because it showed how good I was on avoiding boss mechanics or something like that. But most people dont use WoL or save screenshots of recount after a fight. So if you want one you just queue for LFR with or without a member from the guild you are applying to and show them what you can do if you wouldnt fail on mechanics.

And also, id say the majority of people do not raid at all but now alot of people do the LFR and get to see the end-content. Ofc some will say that blizz are taking away the "glory" of killing the end-boss but Id say the positive feelings of the ones that actually gets to see the end-content now overruns the negative feelings of those that whine over un-gloryfied end-boss. Just go do normals/heroics and show them your awesome achievements or something.. Or get the Deathwing mount after a couple of weeks and showoff with that.

[Devilyaki]

It is new, for now the lucky ones that got a random good set of 25 people and cleared the place, feel they finally did something. Not my luck yet, soon once the players that follow how to kill the boss don't que any more we will see how great lfr is. My experience alway ends wiping on dw for two hours and running out of time due to people leaving and unwilling to even try. So many times I had groups finally get running smooth and just a few tweaks needed to down a boss only to have half the group leave cause they are unwilling to try. I bet you before the tier is over lfr bosses will be nerfed lol.

[xtramuscle]

I love the lfr. It's far more enjoyable than 5 man dungeons, and although the majority or players are the usual sub par players, or good players slacking, once in a while you get some worthy competition and it becomes competitive fun. It's a shame you cant trade gold x realm for some wagers hehe.
Although all that aside the lfr does provide a service for people with a lot of alts. At the end of T12 my main was 7/7hc firelands, so not a terribad at all. Yet I leveled a druid on another realm, and even with a 360ilv (far higher than the 346 I origionally went in Bot with) because I couldn't link ach no pig would take me, despite me pulling more dps than people in 378 valor gear and 365molten front wannabees.
Thanks to lfr I can link 8/8 get in any DS normal pug and perform from there..

[zyx]

"Someone doesn't share the same opinion of stuff as I do, so they must be wrong"

If people like something for whatever reason they have, let them like it.

[Deleted]

I was thinking the same thing. I will probably be bored much faster than before and probably shelf wow. I hope there is at least a minor content patch in the near future.

[Ihazcakeforu]

Whether you clear it on LFR or on normal you are no longer seeing it for the first time.
Just another pointless flaming of the raid finder from a person it is not aimed it.
Nothing you have stated there is specific to, nor even remotely related to the raid finder yet the title of the thread makes your view clear.

You have had experience at varying levels of play, and well I congratulate you on having been able to do that.
However you are not representative of the community, you are not me.

The raid finder is aimed at what is a substantial portion of the pve community which does not have the convenience of several hours in the evening to devote to raiding.
If you do not need it then good for you, but please do not flame something which is aimed at someone who is not you simply because it is not worthy of your time.

For some of us it's a great opportunity we did not have previously and for that reason I welcome it.

I provide a question myself.
Why are those not in need of, but equally willing to use it so keen to criticise it ?

This...a thousand times this......hell a million times this......
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS

Now please for the love of god, no more threads about this, LFR is here and it's not going away, it's aimed at what a majority of the wow population want, live with it.

[Deleted]

As for the current state of mine, guildless after my guild broke apart and only bothered to log into 4.2 to do the molten front daily quests, i find this a welcome entry into raiding without going through the 'paperwork' of joining a guild, gear up to be worth to recieve a slot in their raids and be online at specific times of the day.

As for LFR, I can decide whenever i feel up for raiding and just join one through the browser - The 15 or so minutes i need to wait are a small tradeoff, compared of how long you need to wait for guildmates sometimes to show up, else the raid would be cancelled because they needed him/her to be online with that class.

[Beasty]

For me, it's a fun way of playing my alt that I wouldn't get usually, I raid pretty hardcore on my main so it's a nice way of playing an alt and still you get to maintain character progression outside of your alt. I can't say that personally I feel I have completed the game by killing bosses on LFR or even normal DS, I will consider it completed when I'm BiS and 8/8 HC. Each to their own, if people consider the game completed by killing Deathwing in raid finder, fair enough.

More than anything I play for my guild, I'd hapilly quit hardcore raiding tomorrow if I was no longer needed, it'd sure make my life a lot easier, at the moment though it is just about worth it, I won't apply to another hardcore guild when this path comes to an end, I've played pretty much bleeding edge for 3 of the last 4 years and I'm almost done, when that time comes Raid Finder will be a nice way to play the game.

I don't see how you can tell people how to play this game any more, which is a good thing.

Once you start working full time or have a family you just don't have time to prepare like you did when you ignored your studies or leeched benefits in the name of progression, things like Raid Finder become attractive options.