If Spine isn't killed this week.

[Nephlim]

Just kind of curious on peoples opinions on this, if Spine of Deathwing isn't downed this week do you think the "QQ nerfed Deathwing" threads will stop?

Also do you think Blizzard will tune the fight again if its not downed this week? (I don't see the changes as nerfs I see them as tuning the fight)

And lastly do you guys think Spine will be the new Rag?
Don't directly quote me on this but I think Paragon put in 500+ attempts on him and I know some guilds are already in the hundreds. My reasoning for stating its tuning is that if top 1% guilds cant down it I don't think semi hardcore raiders will stand a chance, hell all the guilds alliance side on my server never downed him, mind you its a dead server.

[Jellyphant]

Spine will definately need to be retuned before the run of the mill guild can kill him.

People keep saying there's QQ about it being hard, but really its not. Its a fairly simple encounter that is just horribly overtuned. It would be like ultraxion having a minute shaved off his enrage. The encounter doesn't become harder, just way overtuned.

[Maximus4004]

I think they are making pretty quick moves to try to fine tune the encounter if they don't down it this week, I wouldn't expect any further changes to the fight until the nerf the zone as a whole.

[Nephlim]

I hope it gets tuned better I'd hate to have my entire sever 6/8 for 6 months lol

[Lappy]

If all guilds are still 6/8 HC by wednesday, then we will have a race on our hands. May the best guild win.

[Deleted]

before tuning it, they'd better fix that nasty bug that causes pets to die when they attack the tendron.

[roahn the warlock]

Ya, it's overtuned, enyone who is complaining for some reason isn;t good enough to do it themselves and are somehow living through the top guilds. It's a bit weird.

[gimlizfire]

like i always say....Omg this game needs to be harder its such easy sauce,Ummmm how come we cant kill (insert Hboss here)we keep wiping we almost have the best gear in the game we should be easymode,I know its bugged or overtuned cant be thats its just hard,Its ok they will nerf it for us.

Come on people you want harder content, you get it and all the sudden its overtuned,Now after they nerf it,It will be why cant they make harder content.

beginning to think the true hardcore guilds left the craft sometime ago.

[Deleted]

I can't believe it was nerfed to be honest. So what if it is physically impossible to kill at the moment. We are all still in last tiers gear and the 6/8 HC guilds have only had 6 bosses of heroic loot. This is the last boss/s of the entire expansion. The fight should be unkillable untill more gear is earnt. As for the replies saying its overtuned.... Jesus, no it's not overtuned. It should not be killed in the first week, come back with better gear and the fight suddenly becomes killable. Blizzard are idiots for nerfing it so quickly.

[Nightbliss]

I can't believe it was nerfed to be honest. So what if it is physically impossible to kill at the moment. We are all still in last tiers gear and the 6/8 HC guilds have only had 6 bosses of heroic loot. This is the last boss/s of the entire expansion. The fight should be unkillable untill more gear is earnt. As for the replies saying its overtuned.... Jesus, no it's not overtuned. It should not be killed in the first week, come back with better gear and the fight suddenly becomes killable. Blizzard are idiots for nerfing it so quickly.

I kinda agree with this.
I mean, if guilds can't kill it first week it means it's overtuned and must be nerfed? That's retarded imo.
Get more gear and kill it after.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Honestly this nerf wasn't a surprise. Boss health was buffed around the same time blizz announced a major bug that was making the encounter easier. Now that they have announced a fix is on the way, health was nerfed back down.

[Nephlim]

To the people saying it wasn't down first week because of gear, I thought someone theory crafted the dps for it and everyone would have to pull theoretical maximums to down it. Meaning class stacking and never missing a single gcd eve even with full t13.

[starkey]

Do the banned guilds come back today or tomorrow? so we could see Method,Paragon,Ensidia back with there 25 man teams

[Kazlehoff]

Spine has been killed.

heroic spine hasnt

and it wont need tuning down again so "run of the mill guild" can kill it, because " run of the mill guild" are in the range of 7/8 reg (low end) to 3/8 HM (high end) (as an estimation)

[Zyrus]

To the people saying it wasn't down first week because of gear, I thought someone theory crafted the dps for it and everyone would have to pull theoretical maximums to down it. Meaning class stacking and never missing a single gcd eve even with full t13.

This sounds dreadfully much like the rethorics behind yogg-saron being unbeatable. Someone even did the numbers.

Ill buy the argument once we get to the point of full t13 and trinkets and whatnot, but simply not at this stage. It's quite a bit too early of a call to make that it is way overtuned.

[asharia]

it will get easier as time goes by. as people get more and more gear

[Jellyphant]

like i always say....Omg this game needs to be harder its such easy sauce,Ummmm how come we cant kill (insert Hboss here)we keep wiping we almost have the best gear in the game we should be easymode,I know its bugged or overtuned cant be thats its just hard,Its ok they will nerf it for us.

Come on people you want harder content, you get it and all the sudden its overtuned,Now after they nerf it,It will be why cant they make harder content.

beginning to think the true hardcore guilds left the craft sometime ago.

You clearly don't understand the difference between difficulty and tuning. We want bosses that are challenging mechanically, spine is fairly easy but overtuned.

Also, 20 bucks says you're complaining about this game being too easy without being 6/8

[Gootgot]

Spine has been killed.

heroic spine hasnt

and it wont need tuning down again so "run of the mill guild" can kill it, because " run of the mill guild" are in the range of 7/8 reg (low end) to 3/8 HM (high end) (as an estimation)

No1 in this thread is talking about reg.
normals aren't raiding.

Try to understand that before replaying to a thread.

[bigbad]

I was thinking that the valorpoint on use trinket would be really helpful for dps on the spine fight. Considering most specs will go for the cloak, ring, and/or ranged slot first you'd see the trinket in week 3/4 as soonest. Also the additional loot of 1 week helps with the dps requirements.

[Nyxis86]

It's tuned to be killed with most of the raid in Heroic DS gear. The tendon's are meant to be killed in 2 amalgamations, not 1. It will be killed within the next month or so more then likely. If they do indeed nerf it a bit, it just means they clearly weren't done with making heroic MoD.