Put in a ticket for Hagara HM "Exploit"; here is the GM response.

[Rioo]

Hagara is riddled with bugs. It's easily the buggiest encounter the entire expansion, I think.

Magmaw heroic would like a word with you.

[DarkPhoenix]

Pro tip. Game masters have absolutely zero to do with the coding of the game.

You want the bug report forums.

All the GMs can do is escalate it to the techs and as such you got a vague response that didnt make much sense. That particular GM may not have seen the bug or heard about it so would technically be telling the truth.

Guy I know is a blizzard GM and in his words theyre basically customer service reps. They have limited power within the game (stops at bans and replacement of items).

[Xuany]

Pro tip. Game masters have absolutely zero to do with the coding of the game.

You want the bug report forums.

All the GMs can do is escalate it to the techs and as such you got a vague response that didnt make much sense. That particular GM may not have seen the bug or heard about it so would technically be telling the truth.

Guy I know is a blizzard GM and in his words theyre basically customer service reps. They have limited power within the game (stops at bans and replacement of items).

This. Pretty much all they'll tell you is "I'll let someone else know who can actually do anything about it" I'm also pretty sure they know about it and obviously isn't to big of a deal if nothings changed.

[Sarevokcz]

The damage is pathetic anyway so this is either false or you have a really bad paladin, which may explain why it didn't work for him.

On what difficulity? Last I saw on 10man, it was ticking for 15% of HP per second per person. having 6-7 people in the bubble is easily 100k unreasistable dps to the raid, unless you start blowing defensive CDs. I havent realized healers now do 35k HPS and not go oom.

[Hermanni]

We put in a plethora of tickets asking if it was alright to kite Magmaw heroic adds out of his room and a senior GM and a few others confirmed that we'd likely get action taken against our accounts if we did it. We obviously wouldn't do it then and holy hell how well it worked out.

And why would you even care about Hagara, easy as Morchok even with zero exploiting.

[Ajwon]

Clever use of game mechanics.

I always knew they put in those frost spikes just for show, damn.

Exploit, people should be banned. It's already a joke boss without exploiting.

[vep]

So tell me, what exactly did you expect from a GM? You do know that is all they can tell you, right?
It's not their job to investigate such things, they only report it to the devs... I mean really, what did you expect?

[Royzzzor]

We put in a plethora of tickets asking if it was alright to kite Magmaw heroic adds out of his room and a senior GM and a few others confirmed that we'd likely get action taken against our accounts if we did it. We obviously wouldn't do it then and holy hell how well it worked out.

And why would you even care about Hagara, easy as Morchok even with zero exploiting.

Meanwhile, every 2nd early kill video includes kiting the adds all over the place. If Blizzard didn't want us to be able to kite adds, they should've made a generic gate that closes once the encounter begins, period.

[Spl4sh3r]

I think no action will be taken because you are meant to be able to use immunities however it's Blizzards end that made it easier by only doing that initial check instead of checking constantly.

[Deleted]

It' has been already fixed?? coz my guild trying to use stampeding roar with feral swiftness and it doesnt remove debuff. same with pvp insignia, but casting while moving works O.o

[Ranikotar]

It' has been already fixed?? coz my guild trying to use stampeding roar with feral swiftness and it doesnt remove debuff. same with pvp insignia, but casting while moving works O.o

Pretty sure they hotfixed it sometime in the past 24hours.

Doing an alt run atm and I tried bubbling with my pally and it never removed the debuff. I let bubble fall off itself and I still took the slow and damage from the water bubble.

[Darkfriend]

Emergent gameplay.

[Deleted]

Might be a bit offtopic, but I see multiple people here saying how faceroll Hagara heroic is. Are you talking about 25man or 10man? From what I understand Hagara isn't all that easy on 10man. (Was wondering since we are currently deciding what hc to do next; Hagara or Ultraxion).

As for debuff on 10man; as someone said above. It's 15% health on each player per second. With two healers that can start to hurt very fast for healer mana (which, afaik, they will need for lightning phase).

[Deleted]

We downed her with 3 healers and 1 tank on 10m HC. We had to rework whole strategy, coz they fixed that thing on ice phase, but all in all its no that really hard to run even without hunter and his aspect

[conjorer]

We downed her with 3 healers and 1 tank on 10m HC. We had to rework whole strategy, coz they fixed that thing on ice phase, but all in all its no that really hard to run even without hunter and his aspect

It's been fixed? Wow, that was fast.

[MarizzaDraenor]

Clever use of game mechanics. Been reported since ptr btw if they wanted they would have fixed.

[Deleted]

i also submitted a ticket and get thsi response, i created a follow up ticket basically slating the GM and explaining if blizzard want to see exploits just google the encounter, another GM got back to me explaining the first guy was just slacking and that immunities should not be working in the ice phase

[Polarthief]

Blizzards not gonna fix anything, just like at what they said at ragnaros hc,they dont want to make bosses harder but only nerf.

So what was that "nerf" about on Spine?

Oh that's right, +1 level and +HP. (Yes, it was a VERY TINY buff, but still a buff nonetheless :P)


Semi-On Topic: Moving out of Focused Assault should be looked into first IMO. That can't possibly be the intended mechanic, is it?

[Deleted]

I don't see why they wouldn't fix it - it's not even slightly similar to things like forming triangular patterns in Rag's breadths. It completely removes rather than simply facilitates the entire purpose of the phase.

[Sodia]

I always knew they put in those frost spikes just for show, damn.

Exploit, people should be banned. It's already a joke boss without exploiting.

LOL dude you cant kill her if you dont go inside the buble so stop talkin if you have nothing to say pleas and you can still heal inside even if you dont youse druid ot Shaman to remove debuf