No Duel Spec No Healers Petition...

[Hellspawnx]

I am so frustrated with the SWTOR community. The DPS players whine and moan on the official forums saying they dont want Duel Specs in the game, but then have the nerve to post tons of threads about the lack of healers. Well guess what enjoy your lack of healers it looks good on you all. Im a Healer and I refuse to do flash points and heres why.

Since we dont have Duel Spec (Talent Spec ... ***NOT ADVANCED SPEC***) That means I cant level as quickly or as easly as a DPS, So why should I as a Healer spend money and time into respeccing when I want to Quest and then spend more money and time to respecc back to Healer just to heal in a flash point.

There are so many selfish people who want to lock us healers and tanks into only 1 roll cause they fear that if we have the choice of doing both that thier wont be any tanks or healers which isnt the case at all in WoW I was a Priest I used my Duel spec to allow me to play Shadow while questing or PvP then would talent spec to Healer for Raids and Dungeons, Duel Spec gives Healers and Tanks more flexability to do other tasks other then just tanking and healing.

You DPS will never understand my pain being a healer trying to quests with a mindless companion, while your blowing past me like lightning speed because you can nuke everything with chain lightning ect ect ect.

So with that said since I cannot force you too feel my dread, I as a healer because of all your whining and moaning am officially on strike from healing. I encourage all healers to do the same why should be be forced to pay just to keep the same pace as those who would never and will never respec into tanking or healing themselves.

let the DPS do the flash points themselves see how well they do without tanks and or healers, then we will see if they still think not having a duel spec is a good idea.

I know not everyone will do this but I hope some do, Cause on Iron Citidal the second largest server in SWTOR flash point are like a barren waste land, Lack of Duel Spec equalls healers leveling as DPS...

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[Floboduck]

I am so frustrated with the SWTOR community. The DPS players whine and moan on the official forums saying they dont want Duel Specs in the game, but then have the nerve to post tons of threads about the lack of healers. Well guess what enjoy your lack of healers it looks good on you all. Im a Healer and I refuse to do flash points and heres why.

Since we dont have Duel Spec (Talent Spec ... ***NOT ADVANCED SPEC***) That means I cant level as quickly or as easly as a DPS, So why should I as a Healer spend money and time into respeccing when I want to Quest and then spend more money and time to respecc back to Healer just to heal in a flash point.

There are so many selfish people who want to lock us healers and tanks into only 1 roll cause they fear that if we have the choice of doing both that thier wont be any tanks or healers which isnt the case at all in WoW I was a Priest I used my Duel spec to allow me to play Shadow while questing or PvP then would talent spec to Healer for Raids and Dungeons, Duel Spec gives Healers and Tanks more flexability to do other tasks other then just tanking and healing.

You DPS will never understand my pain being a healer trying to quests with a mindless companion, while your blowing past me like lightning speed because you can nuke everything with chain lightning ect ect ect.

So with that said since I cannot force you too see my dread, I as a healer because of all your whining and moaning am officially on strike from healing. I encourage all healers to do the same why should be be forced to pay just to keep the same pace as those who would never and will never respec into tanking or healing themselves.

let the DPS do the flash points themselves see how well they do without tanks and or healers, then we will see if they still think not having a duel spec is a good idea.

I know not everyone will do this but I hope some do, Cause on Iron Citidal the second largest server in SWTOR flash point are like a barren waste land, Lack of Duel Spec equalls healers leveling as DPS...

Would you like some cheese with this whine???

I heal because i like healing not because i feel i am forced to, i am levelling as DPS and healing flashpoints in my DPS spec because... well... tbh dude looking at this rant.. it's because i have a brain.

I plan on respeccing healer at max lvl and finding myself a guild.

[Fuschia]

TBH as someone that is leveling as a healer, at least on my server groups have a harder time finding a tank.

TBH I kinda laugh at people that can heal leveling as DPS, the only thing I can't solo are heroic 4 instances.

[Shamburger]

Well.. those two posts alone negated the entire argument of the OP. On to the next one.

[Monarken]

Fuckin A i agree OP. Been a healer for as long as i can remember, even lvld a druid as resto back in vanilla. It was not pleasant. Ofc i could lvl as DPS and do flashpoints/etc as a healer in DPS spec, but it wouldnt be the same. i want to FEEL as if im a healer. When i log on to my Trooper i want the feeling of being a COMBAT MEDIC.

Therefore Bioware should implent dualspec. It does not hinder/destroy the community in any way, shape or form. Those who are negative to dualspec are ignorant and should go play COD.

[Cairhiin]

TBH as someone that is leveling as a healer, at least on my server groups have a harder time finding a tank.

TBH I kinda laugh at people that can heal leveling as DPS, the only thing I can't solo are heroic 4 instances.

Sorry but this is just not true. I'm levelling as healer, and while I can solo quests that are meant for a group of 2 it is really no efficient to do so as it's extremely slow going. Furthermore, soloing 4 man group quests? LOL.. you are joking right? Maybe when you are 5+ levels higher than the quest, at which point it's useless to do so, but otherwise I seriously doubt it. Some packs have 7 mobs. So you can CC one of them, what you going to do with the other 6?

Levelling as a healer is definitely possible, it's just a lot slower. Do I want dual spec? Yes, but is it a priority for me as healer? Not really. I get by okay-ish. Just slow. However if endgame is going to revolve around doing dailies, I seriously hope that DPS classes don't expect to go through the same Fireland crap we healers went through in WoW cause that's just being selfish. It's simple quality of life for all, and hybrid vs pure is hardly an argument as there's a lot more hybrid classes than pure classes in SW:TOR.

[Dundebuns]

I find the most difficult thing to find is a healer. But that's because I am a tank and DPS are a dime a dozen

I will probably level an IA operative next because they look like they heal in a cool way.

[Deleted]

The *retarded players no matter their spec* whine and moan

Fixed for ya.DPS player here wanting dual spec so i can heal in FPs /wink

[Deleted]

People seem to forgot that healers in SWToR aren't the same as WoW or Rift.

You're more support than a healer. As healer you still do more than enough DPS, you're not a healer like WoW where you can't do anything but that.

[Deleted]

I'm level 29 atm and leveled as a healer through the whole thing. I solo most heroic 2 quests without issue, your argument is invalid. In fact, some of my friends who play dps can't solo the way I do.

This is just whining, nothing more, move along.

[Fuschia]

Sorry but this is just not true. I'm levelling as healer, and while I can solo quests that are meant for a group of 2 it is really no efficient to do so as it's extremely slow going. Furthermore, soloing 4 man group quests? LOL.. you are joking right? Maybe when you are 5+ levels higher than the quest, at which point it's useless to do so, but otherwise I seriously doubt it. Some packs have 7 mobs. So you can CC one of them, what you going to do with the other 6?

Levelling as a healer is definitely possible, it's just a lot slower. Do I want dual spec? Yes, but is it a priority for me as healer? Not really. I get by okay-ish. Just slow. However if endgame is going to revolve around doing dailies, I seriously hope that DPS classes don't expect to go through the same Fireland crap we healers went through in WoW cause that's just being selfish. It's simple quality of life for all, and hybrid vs pure is hardly an argument as there's a lot more hybrid classes than pure classes in SW:TOR.

You should learn to read before you post, I said the only thing I CAN'T solo is heroic 4's. Oddly enough its not that much slower, and in fact I'm usually in and out before others that try to solo them. In fact when you consider that most of the DPS sit around on general chat looking for help to even do it I've long past gotten in and out.

I play SWG as a Doc, I played EQ2 as a cleric, I played WoW as every class that could heal, I played FF online as a White mage, and now I'm leveling as a Sage in this one. I think I've long gotten past the point where leveling being slightly slower ( btw I'm keeping pace with everyone else on my friends list with less play time) bothers me in any way.

[Deleted]

what is the problem in healing and tanking in dps spec? do you really think people in wow didnt do that before the dual spec? HC instances and raids no but normal instances? I have tanked or healed all the instances has retri since level 10 to 70 same from 70-80 later.

In WOTLK with the LFG I have healed HC in retri with ICC gear XD With my awesome dps we would kill bosses in less then 20s I just had to use an instant FOL at every now and then to keep tank alive XD

[Thornstar]

I as a leveling healer am Fine. I heal my companion for the heroic groups, and besides that help them pew pew down mobs at no problem. Healers do fine damage and our companions do more damage than others to make up for us being healers. Just as fast to heal as it is to dps. Heck sometimes while leveling I can 3 shot mobs solo. Hardly weak leveling at all.

[MagicSN]

There's also another aspect to the problem. Especially on that RP Server I am playing on a lot of people seem to be like "Jedi are protecting people - so I play a tank". We had sometimes groups with 3 tanks in it... and I even heard stories of all-tank-groups... need dual-spec !!!

[Deleted]

The game should have dual specs. Healers and tanks deserve to be able to switch to a DPS spec to solo / quest / grind gathering.

[Monarken]

People seem to forgot that healers in SWToR aren't the same as WoW or Rift.

You're more support than a healer. As healer you still do more than enough DPS, you're not a healer like WoW where you can't do anything but that.

So, us "healers" (supports) should be punished for wanting to support the rest of you? it is a fact that you DO LVL SLOWER AS A SUPPORT/HEALER.

Oh, and i take it you have never played a BG in SWTOR as a healer yet? You dont really do much else than healing, so much damage flying around, as a trooper i find myself CCing(as in wow) and spam healing (as in wow) + help with objectives (as in wow). Cant say there is much difrence betwen PvP HEALERS (not semi-healer/dps) in WoW and SWTOR.

[Deleted]

lvl 42 meanwhile and I am a healer.. everbody saying it is not possible to level as healer has no idea about what he is talking...

You get your gear from flashpoints (becuase there are so few healers) and spend your mars for companion-gear^^

Easy and fast way of leveling.

[Reaperr]

Fuckin A i agree OP. Been a healer for as long as i can remember, even lvld a druid as resto back in vanilla. It was not pleasant. Ofc i could lvl as DPS and do flashpoints/etc as a healer in DPS spec, but it wouldnt be the same. i want to FEEL as if im a healer. When i log on to my Trooper i want the feeling of being a COMBAT MEDIC.

Therefore Bioware should implent dualspec. It does not hinder/destroy the community in any way, shape or form. Those who are negative to dualspec are ignorant and should go play COD.

then go Combat Medic, and level that way, you'll still be able to DPS, and you'll also be able to heal your companions better. Who cares if their DPS is better than yours, if you're trying to be a HEALER?

[Gemili]

They've said dual spec will be in after launch. The game just launched on the 20th.


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