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    sith marauder..

    anyone else feel like they are pretty weak low lvl? im struggling to kill some lvl 20 mobs and im lvl 21.. ><

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    Hmm, i have a sentinel and I haven't felt like that. Ive actually had issues pulling aggro off tanks with dps sometimes.
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    Are you making use of your CD's? Cloak of pain i pretty much use on CD, make sure you force scream and Smash to keep mobs stunned/disorientated I had no issues up until around 27, then at 30 they disappeared again, what spec are you rolling with ect?

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    annihilation, yes im using most of my cds properly but i feel like my pet does way more dmg than me most of the times, right now i had some quest that i had to kill some elite i was struggling to kill him, still didnt managed to get him killed till someone decided to help me. maybe just my gear aint good enought ^^

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    gear quest rewards are non existant once you get off the starting area since all you'll get are tokens. Hit up the Ah and buy some upgrades. they are usually pretty cheap... at least on my server they are. If money is a problem, go do some warzones and farm some commendations to buy some level 14/24 weapons or level 20 armor .... at least farm them anyways so you can get implants, dont think ive seen those as a reward anywhere. If you cant afford gear on the ah, pick up slicing asap, the profit is minimal at the start but once you get to around level 3-4 lockboxes you'll be swimming in credits you wouldnt know what to spend it on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fower View Post
    annihilation, yes im using most of my cds properly but i feel like my pet does way more dmg than me most of the times, right now i had some quest that i had to kill some elite i was struggling to kill him, still didnt managed to get him killed till someone decided to help me. maybe just my gear aint good enought ^^
    Switch to carnage far suprior.

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    well i got slicing, made some nice money sitting arround 35k credits, i went to AH bought a few but still .. not any major upgrade tho.. my weapons still suck

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    everyone said that anni. is the best spec atm, cant say that tho since its a " bleed spec " kinda.. how do i change my talents btw whom do i talk to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fower View Post
    well i got slicing, made some nice money sitting arround 35k credits, i went to AH bought a few but still .. not any major upgrade tho.. my weapons still suck
    Well since you're a physical dps, weapons do play a huge roll. Id see how big an upgrade the level 14 pvp weapons are or maybe wait 3 levels and get the 24, they cost the same amount of commendations. Start doing warzones so you can get it,its about 330 if i remember correctly which is about5-6 wins or 10 losses. Also farm another 220 commendations so you can get 2 implants, and maybe an ear piece if you dont have one yet.

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    I've made it to 23 without any problems but I've gone Starter zone>Dromund Kaas>Balmorra>Hutt place where I am now.... sorry that could be better. Either way my point is that I've always been in the correct level range. First thing I did was save up 28 commendations on Dromund Kaas to get 2 moddable Lightsabres and the rest of my gear has been pretty shoddy really. Force Charge>Battering Assault>Smash>Viscious Strike....... has served me quite well so far, just target the lowest HP mobs first and you can't go too far wrong. I've only heard that Marauders start struggling in the late 20's but if your experiencing something different then I can't tell you that you are wrong, I can only hope that your doing something hideously wrong really or your attempting higher level content.

    Oh ye once you get access to Quinn hes pretty much mandatory, no more downtime. GL and HF either way.

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    ya i did some warzones no point on getting the lvl 14 weapons, tomorrow ill get to 24 for sure thanks for the tips Kronik85 atm im following the class quests wich lead me to nar shadda, anyway where do i change my talents?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fower View Post
    well i got slicing, made some nice money sitting arround 35k credits, i went to AH bought a few but still .. not any major upgrade tho.. my weapons still suck

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    everyone said that anni. is the best spec atm, cant say that tho since its a " bleed spec " kinda.. how do i change my talents btw whom do i talk to?
    Take Artifice. At level 32 I was rocking Ancient Lightsaber and Marauder's Lightsaber from first planet, still better than anything you could find on AH (epic hilt with commendation mods).

    Also, take Annihilation and use Berserk on cooldown - 18% heal, with Short Fuse talent (+2 fury from abilities) you generate Fury fast (and I didn't used Ravage once, because it doesn't generate fury). Juyo mastery - +15% bleet crit chance, which also heal your for 2% HP.

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    I'm Carnage specced and also have quite some trouble dealing a good amount of damage. Though I have to admit that after buying new lightsabers, I do deal more damage. I'm lvl 48 atm though.

    From what I've understand is that Annihilation is a much better DPS spec then Carnage though.

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    I play as Carnage and had zero issues getting to 50. But I was constantly upgrading my hilts. I kept Artifice on pace with my level and always had the blue hilts ready to go as I leveled up.

    You basically just need to keep using your cooldowns, Cloak of Pain, Blade Ward, Obfuscate (whenever you get that). And make sure you prioritize targets that heal or have high damage abilities (ie Full Auto)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fower View Post
    ya i did some warzones no point on getting the lvl 14 weapons, tomorrow ill get to 24 for sure thanks for the tips Kronik85 atm im following the class quests wich lead me to nar shadda, anyway where do i change my talents?
    Go to the Imperial Fleet, Combat Training area, in one of the rooms there's a <Skill Mentor> dude that resets your skills.

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    Compared to their heavy armor counterparts, they're pretty weak yeah. Not so bad that it's impossible to level, but my Juggernaut with my healing companion can solo any heroic 2 quest, and even some heroic 4's. Bounty Hunters are the same I believe. Jedi Knights have it a bit better because they get a tank companion early.

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    I play as a Carnage Marauder.Carnage is far superior in every aspect to Annihilation.

    In PvP I'm nearly always 100k damage and at least 10-15 kills more than most Annihilation Marauders and I usually get the 300k damage Medal nearly every game.

    Hard Modes I have to camo every cooldown because I'm critting for over 3k every scream and Ravage hits for nearly 10k when running with me as marauder and mercenary dps we have yet to meet an enrage due to our combined dps being that good.

    Annihilation you only have bleeds which hit for 800 every second which is nothing considering you can scream for at least 3k every 9 seconds, gore every 15 seconds which is 100% Armor Penetration combined with Ravage and it's always 10k Damage on Ravage, when you get to level 40 also you get Massacre which hits for 1500~ costs 3 rage refunds one with talents and then with berserk only has one rage cost so you just need to do spam the crap out if it and it gives free ataru form procs which guess what gives you one rage so massacre is FREE to use and later on when you get Execute that's another 3-4k damage after 20%.

    Also if your having problems surviving I know why, your using vette and not using Malavai Quinn. You can't play a marauder without quinn. Don't buy a single commendation item for yourself give everything to quinn. When quinn's geared you can easily solo Heroic 2/4 quests and get the orange gear you would have bought for yourself from commendations anyway.

    In regards to gear yes do PvP at 50 you'll be PvPing till your Valor 65 anyway. PvP bags for 200 Mercenary + 200 Warzone Commendations have a chance to give you Champion gear which has rank 56 armoring/mod/enhancements which is equal to hard mode eternity vault and then when you get to Valor 60 you get Battlemaster gear which is equal to Nightmare mode eternity vault. If you went the Hard Mode flashpoints > Normal eternity vault route you'd be competing for gear and even then it's only rank 51 mods.

    Just ignore the Annihilation (Bleed) and Rage (Neutral DPS) Talent trees because they are worthless

    http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#100bcZhGrbddMorsZhM.1 This is the spec you want to play
    Last edited by Yazuka; 2011-12-27 at 03:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yazuka View Post
    You can't play a marauder without quinn.
    Sure you can, I played with Vette until Jaesa. And Jaesa until 50. Lots more fun than running around with a healbot, had to pulls packs intelligently.

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    Why would you make your life harder than it needs to be though? With quinn you can do every quest though not having to rely on others.

    It only took me 4 days to get to 50 with using Quinn doing everything except Taris because I out leveled the planet by 4 levels when I reached it and that was with leveling synthweaving/archaeology/underworld trading at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yazuka View Post
    So many people are wrong with Annihilation, Carnage is far superior in every aspect. In PvP I'm nearly always 100k damage and at least 10-15 kills more than most Annihilation Marauders and I usually get the 300k damage Medal nearly every game. Hard Modes I have to camo every cooldown because I'm critting for over 3k every scream and Ravage hits for nearly 10k when running with me as marauder and mercenary dps we have yet to meet an enrage due to our combined dps being that good.

    Annihilation you only have bleeds which hit for 800 every second which is nothing considering you can scream for at least 3k every 9 seconds, gore every 15 seconds which is 100% Armor Penetration combined with Ravage and it's always 10k Damage on Ravage, when you get to level 40 also you get Massacre which hits for 1500~ costs 3 rage refunds one with talents and then with berserk only has one rage cost so you just need to do spam the crap out if it and it gives free ataru form procs which guess what gives you one rage so massacre is FREE to use and later on when you get Execute that's another 3-4k damage after 20%.

    Also if your having problems surviving I know why, your using vette and not using Malavai Quinn. You can't play a marauder without quinn. Don't buy a single commendation item for yourself give everything to quinn. When quinn's geared you can easily solo Heroic 2/4 quests and get the orange gear you would have bought for yourself from commendations anyway.

    In regards to gear yes do PvP at 50 you'll be PvPing till your Valor 65 anyway. PvP bags for 200 Mercenary + 200 Warzone Commendations have a chance to give you Champion gear which has rank 56 armoring/mod/enhancements which is equal to hard mode eternity vault and then when you get to Valor 60 you get Battlemaster gear which is equal to Nightmare mode eternity vault. If you went the Hard Mode flashpoints > Normal eternity vault route you'd be competing for gear and even then it's only rank 51 mods.

    Hope this helped but never go Rage or Annihilation for DPS.
    how are bleeds better for lvling over instant damage? please explain

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    You've got my post the other way around Annihilation is the bleed spec, Carnage is instant damage.

    I probably should have stated that though I thought anyone that actually understood marauder would know the talent tree's functions.

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