Do you think this was wrong?

[SergeantStogie]

So I was on my hunter running in LFR. Was last 4 bosses. there was 4 hunters all of which outgeared me. 1 of them was like full heroic gear (he was top raid dps) anyway to make a long story short, i ended being 4th overall dps and 2nd highest hunter. the top hunter called the other 2 hunters out for getting out dpsed by like 4-5k by a less geared hunter (me). no the boss droppped an AGI trink which i rolled on and didnt win but the top hunter rolled as well. he won but he didnt need bc his gear was far better. he opened trade with me and gave me to the trinket explaining i deserved it more then the others.

now obviously i have a biased opinion in thinking this was awesome. i was wondering if u guys think this was unfair to the others or was it justified?

[liquidfear]

you have the trinket, who cares

[OrlyAurora]

If he didn't brag, or say anything to the other hunters about giving you the trinket. Then it's fine. If he had gloated, or you for that matter, then it'd be frown worthy.

[zealtek]

I think he did the right thing and you deserved it. I can't stand being top of dps when my gear sucks and then have to lose loot to a lazy player that doesn't understand their class. If that trinket was a bigger upgrade for you then for the other hunters then I say good for you on getting it. It shows that it will be put to better use. GJ

So I was on my hunter running in LFR. Was last 4 bosses. there was 4 hunters all of which outgeared me. 1 of them was like full heroic gear (he was top raid dps) anyway to make a long story short, i ended being 4th overall dps and 2nd highest hunter. the top hunter called the other 2 hunters out for getting out dpsed by like 4-5k by a less geared hunter (me). no the boss droppped an AGI trink which i rolled on and didnt win but the top hunter rolled as well. he won but he didnt need bc his gear was far better. he opened trade with me and gave me to the trinket explaining i deserved it more then the others.

now obviously i have a biased opinion in thinking this was awesome. i was wondering if u guys think this was unfair to the others or was it justified?

[SergeantStogie]

he didnt say anything, i dont think anyone noticed. but i know when i lose a roll i always inspect the winner to c if he actually needs it. so if i was one of the other hunters i would have been mad

[Willfox]

This thread might not go very far, but... It really is just going to come down to opinion because. 1) It's not fair that they had a lesser chance of winning it, 2) They should pull their weight more.

Personally I think it's bit of an asshat thing to do

[PBitt]

Well, that was nice of him, indeed. He could have just passed on it, as he had no use for it, but he won it and gave it to someone he thought earned it versus someone who did not, and most of the LFR goes to players that do not earn it, IMO, because they don't even care to gem or chant it, research their class even a little bit, etc. He earned the item as much as anyone else did...he was there doing more than any other dps was contributing providing he target swapped, not to mention he probablydidn't even need a single piece of loot, was probably just there to cap VP or something. The fact that he could roll on and win the trinket despite not needing it is fair enough, as that is how the game works, and it's up to him to do with it what he wants.

[Suikoden]

Well that hunter did a douche move but... What the others don't know won't hurt em.

[Daizeyyy]

If it was the trinket from Warmaster then yeah that's fine, if it was the one from Spine then meh because that fight is about control so the other hunters might have just stopped when they should stop instead of padding meters.

[Deleted]

This thread might not go very far, but... It really is just going to come down to opinion because. 1) It's not fair that they had a lesser chance of winning it, 2) They should pull their weight more.

Personally I think it's bit of an asshat thing to do

What do you mean lesser chance of winning it? It's not like that other hunter came in with the premeditated opinion that he'll give the trinket to a specific person. He won it, then looked at recount to check who deserves it most and just gave it away. In fact, they had a lot more gear therefore a much higher chance of topping DPS meters and a higher chance of winning it, it's their own fault they didn't perform.

I think it's all perfectly fair. That top DPS hunter is in the raid, he's pulling his weight and then some (carrying DPS). He has a right to roll on stuff, he rolls on an agility trinket. He wins it, then he's nice enough to give it away for free. He didn't ask for gold, or DE it just to be a dick. He gave it away for free to the person that most deserves it based on contribution to the raid.

[Deleted]

This hunter deserves a "cool guy greg" motivational poster for doing the right thing. Don't worry about this. Gear is supposed to reward skill, not tourists. You deserved it.

[Oknaps]

I do this all the time. I win loot, and give it to people who don't pull mediocre DPS.

[MrHappy]

you got the item who cares bout the means to the end?

[Deleted]

I personnaly always try to do that on my main since i usually lfr only for the valor points ( which i don't need either now that i think about it... force of habit i guess).
My criterias are usualy "activity", stuff-VS-dps and stat (ie: damage % on adds)

[Deleted]

you got it as a present, so thats cool

[traen]

He won it. He can do whatever he want with it.

IMO, he found the best application for it.

[Klahkeme]

Need Before Greed is not a merit-based loot system. This is a pretty unpopular stance on these forums, but I don't think anyone has any business going into a LFR/LFD group and dictate who deserves or doesn't deserve a piece of loot. No one in that group elected anyone to make those kind of calls, so if you aren't going to be using it for yourself, I don't think you shouldn't be rolling Need. If you want to do that, I think you need to make your own group and make yourself master looter.

I am aware most people here think it's perfectly fine and I get the impression that some seem to even think it's almost their duty to make sure whoever they feel is most deserving has a better chance at getting the loot, but I just don't think it's right. I'm sure I'll be attacked for it, likely accused of being a "bad" who doesn't want to have to work for my gear and everyone can believe and say whatever they will about me, but that's my stance on the matter.

Edit: Just clarification. "You" used above is in the general sense, not to the original poster. I realize the OP was the one that received the loot, not the one that gave.

[Garnier Fructis]

Well, he won the trinket fair and square so you really shouldn't feel bad about it. As soon as he won the roll, only he could decide what to do with it.

I almost never roll on something I can't use, but I have rolled need before to try and prevent someone else from winning a tier token. It was a DK who spent the whole raid calling everyone terrible. He predicted many raid wipes, but we lost at most 3 people. Luckily, neither of us won the token.

[Naaw]

I've done this some times on DW weapons on my hunter...
Only if I see other hunters wich are half afk and only nuke the arm tentacle etc. though.

[Deleted]

Need Before Greed is not a merit-based loot system. This is a pretty unpopular stance on these forums, but I don't think anyone has any business going into a LFR/LFD group and dictate who deserves or doesn't deserve a piece of loot. No one in that group elected anyone to make those kind of calls, so if you aren't going to be using it for yourself, I don't think you shouldn't be rolling Need. If you want to do that, I think you need to make your own group and make yourself master looter.

I am aware most people here think it's perfectly fine and I get the impression that some seem to even think it's almost their duty to make sure whoever they feel is most deserving has a better chance at getting the loot, but I just don't think it's right. I'm sure I'll be attacked for it, likely accused of being a "bad" who doesn't want to have to work for my gear and everyone can believe and say whatever they will about me, but that's my stance on the matter.

Edit: Just clarification. "You" used above is in the general sense, not to the original poster. I realize the OP was the one that received the loot, not the one that gave.

You might be right in some cases and I can see your PoV and agree with it partially. However your argument looses strength when one stops talking about "bads" meaning people who aren't as good or as geared and when we start discussing "bads" as in the people who blatantly don't even try to contribute. AFKers who then roll on loot when they come back, people who right click the boss to auto attack and tab out, people who literally do SO LITTLE damage or healing that it's beyond clear that they aren't in it at all and just want a free ride and free loot, etc. You can't possibly do LFR and not encounter these people, and I think you can agree that needing on something just so that they don't get it is ok. After that you can give it away based on merit or simply to the second highest roller that isn't a mooch.

On a side note, there is another flaw in your logic in general. Your argument against this whole process is that it's all a player created act that is not part of the natural loot system made by Blizzard. I could extend your reasoning and say that the natural loot system implemented in LFR allows me to roll on a lot of stuff regardless if it's an upgrade or not therefore I am "in the right" by needing on all of it. The act of passing on loot that you don't need is not part of the loot system made in the game, it's simply something players do to be nice. The same can be said by people who need on stuff with the intention of giving it away based on merit, it's something they do to be nice (because their idea of nice means helping people that deserve loot get loot).