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    lvl 50 Bounty Hunter (mercenary) pvp vid

    Something i threw together with 2 nights of footage and late night/early am editing. it's a rough cut i haven't gotten any work done on intro graphic ect.

    enjoy.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9JaPbLm8ac

    btw i hope people start realizing that buff lowbies get to do more dmg and get more health added really doesn't make up the difference. i think this vid will prove it.

    note: wearing 2 pc pvp tier 2 2pc pve tier 2. 2 pvp tier 2 weapons. and rest is filled in with tier 1 or equivalent pve gear. (ear/implants are tier 2 pvp)

    note to other bh(merc) are you getting bigger numbers? if so what gear choices are you making? i'd like to see a pyrotech vid. i've been tempted a few times to go that route but i think the burst will be better with mercenary.

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    No offence because I know it's not your fault but just watching through your movie it's pretty obvious the skill cap in this game is just horribly low. Let's be real here: The skill cap of MMO games in general is awfully low (possibly lower than any other genre as the main function of these games is to keep people farming and paying monthly fees) but your keyboard turning turret style 'ownage' of people in swtor just takes the cake. I can't help but feel a shared sense of shame while watching that action.

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    considering i don't keyboard turn i know you did not even watch it .. but hey thanks for the bump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kensai666 View Post
    but your keyboard turning turret style 'ownage' of people in swtor just takes the cake. I can't help but feel a shared sense of shame while watching that action.
    Its quite clear you've never played TOR. Your character auto turns while casting/using an ability to face your mob, so people can't cheese people with differing latencies by constantly running through them.

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    sorry to say, but ur class is pretty much the most hated and OP class in the game so ur vids will probb wont get much views cus it's faceroll, like pala's in wrath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Appel View Post
    sorry to say, but ur class is pretty much the most hated and OP class in the game so ur vids will probb wont get much views cus it's faceroll, like pala's in wrath.
    naw if you want faceroll go watch an agent/smuggler. one spec they litteraly stunlock you to death. and sniper agents are seriously the "boom headshot" gods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryken View Post
    Its quite clear you've never played TOR. Your character auto turns while casting/using an ability to face your mob, so people can't cheese people with differing latencies by constantly running through them.
    i did find it annoying they put that in the game. i know in rift people cried insanely because they din't want to actually turn their characters to face a target. /shrug

    i actually prefer if they made people face their targets manually. /shrug maybe they'll change that in a patch .. one can only hope.

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    I got a level 39 Assassin on Niman (EU) so yes I've played it but not to level 50. I've unsubscribed.

    My point was that this guy is essentially standing like a turret, chain casting a few abilities, and winning. WoW PvP failed as an e-sport and as a competitive game (despite having ladders for both BGs and arena while swtor has neithe) and it's still fifty times more complex than this and has a much higher skill cap. I don't see any jump shots, no kiting, no crowd control/interrupt rotations on healers while you nuke a DPS, etc. I see nothing that even looks entertaining from viewer's perspective.

    When you see a guy who plays like this 'Bounty Hunter' in WoW it's 100% always a bot. A character that walks like a zombie towards enemies then stops and turrets spells standing dead still as long as possible. It's hilarious really.

    But hey, if you enjoy it, keep it up then

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    Quote Originally Posted by kensai666 View Post
    No offence because I know it's not your fault but just watching through your movie it's pretty obvious the skill cap in this game is just horribly low. Let's be real here: The skill cap of MMO games in general is awfully low (possibly lower than any other genre as the main function of these games is to keep people farming and paying monthly fees) but your keyboard turning turret style 'ownage' of people in swtor just takes the cake. I can't help but feel a shared sense of shame while watching that action.
    No offence but playing with roughly 65 keybinds and a lot of macroes that atleast I personally selfmade ( talking about MMOs in general since for now we can't make macroes in SWTOR ) is not exactly what I would call low skill cap. For example WoW used to be part of MLG and that is not something many games achieved. Also I would like to point out the very high amout of skill top players own at the moment in arena in wow ( talking about the very few that play without addons and rely purely on their own awareness with the normal UI - I can assure you that is not anyway near "low skill cap" ).

    Anyway enough talking about the troll, good video, Mercenary is a bit OP and you can not deny it but overall nice first SWTOR video.

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    It's cool that you pointed out how much higher the skill cap in WoW is, something which I've already agreed to myself. The funny thing is that everyone still considered it way too low in comparison to RTS games and FPS games. Swtor on the other hand I've already commented on. The PvP is a joke in every aspect of the word.

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    Nothing speciall. You are like all 99% of the PvP-players.. Just standing doing damage.. There is no situations where skills is needed at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kensai666 View Post
    I got a level 39 Assassin on Niman (EU) so yes I've played it but not to level 50. I've unsubscribed.

    My point was that this guy is essentially standing like a turret, chain casting a few abilities, and winning. WoW PvP failed as an e-sport and as a competitive game (despite having ladders for both BGs and arena while swtor has neithe) and it's still fifty times more complex than this and has a much higher skill cap. I don't see any jump shots, no kiting, no crowd control/interrupt rotations on healers while you nuke a DPS, etc. I see nothing that even looks entertaining from viewer's perspective.

    When you see a guy who plays like this 'Bounty Hunter' in WoW it's 100% always a bot. A character that walks like a zombie towards enemies then stops and turrets spells standing dead still as long as possible. It's hilarious really.

    But hey, if you enjoy it, keep it up then
    well when you're not allowed to have a premade bg it's allmost pointless to cc anything. 9 times out of 10 when i use my cc some idiot runs up and has to hit it 2 seconds right after. (towards end of the vid i do cc a healer that's runnig up to heal a commando) and quite a few times you'll see me use electric dart to stun someone.

    as for the stopping to cast .. well considering my only 2 abilities i can move and shoot with hit like a wet noodle and i really mean that it's going to be like that overall. yea i have kited people before but it takes ages to burn them down and with my gear currently i can usually burn someone down faster than they can get me down 1v1 on average. sometimes 2 on 1. atleast in wow caster type classes have some kind of decent hit while moving via talents or some other way. /shrug game is in early stages and gear is still young in it alot can change for the better.

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    Great video, people need to understand the game just came out..tons of time for improvments and new idea's to spawn. Keep making Videos!

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    The arcane mage of ToR

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    Sorry.. but is the "the buff to lvl 50 is not well balanced" the only aspect of your vid? Much, if not even most of the scenes are "there are 2 juggers jumping at the enemy, and we kill him!" or "Haha .. nobody is targeting me.. in this croud of ppl.. BOOM!" or "Uhh.. there are so many green numbers bumping from the 2 guys healing.. now i will rock this lvl 12!".

    Yes, it is not your "fault", that you are rocking the BGs bcs of gear and level .. but are you serious that there has been no better footage in this 2 nights of playing? I am a lvl 45 Assassin and in like every BG you see me 2vs1, cc, stun, sprint to healbeacons, kicking, slowing + kiting (yes, even as a melee), knockbacking my target out of the healers line of sight etc. - I am for sure not "overroxxorkickass", but i think this is more entertaining to watch then seeing you spamming 1,5 buttons and hoping for your heat-reduce to be ready .. (You are not even trying to manage your ressources .. you noticed that the channeled shoot (dunno the english name) does not stack any heat if you channel it below 40%, because you loose as much heat as it costs in the channel-time?).

    Anyway .. no offence .. thanks for sharing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kliffharry View Post
    The arcane mage of ToR
    let's see .. ab ab ab ab missles ..

    tm tm tm tm railshot ..

    yep! (tm = Tracer missle)

    lol i really din't realize it till just now. but hey .. i got a jetpack .. mages get to make food/water tables lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oex View Post
    Sorry.. but is the "the buff to lvl 50 is not well balanced" the only aspect of your vid? Much, if not even most of the scenes are "there are 2 juggers jumping at the enemy, and we kill him!" or "Haha .. nobody is targeting me.. in this croud of ppl.. BOOM!" or "Uhh.. there are so many green numbers bumping from the 2 guys healing.. now i will rock this lvl 12!".

    Yes, it is not your "fault", that you are rocking the BGs bcs of gear and level .. but are you serious that there has been no better footage in this 2 nights of playing? I am a lvl 45 Assassin and in like every BG you see me 2vs1, cc, stun, sprint to healbeacons, kicking, slowing + kiting (yes, even as a melee), knockbacking my target out of the healers line of sight etc. - I am for sure not "overroxxorkickass", but i think this is more entertaining to watch then seeing you spamming 1,5 buttons and hoping for your heat-reduce to be ready .. (You are not even trying to manage your ressources .. you noticed that the channeled shoot (dunno the english name) does not stack any heat if you channel it below 40%, because you loose as much heat as it costs in the channel-time?).

    Anyway .. no offence .. thanks for sharing.
    oh i know about the heat thing /shrug i've got plenty of footage of just surviving nutty situations. i'm still digging through roughly 600 gigs of fraps files. (wish fraps used a different format) i'm pretty much blowing out my bar when i have thermal sensor override up bc i can reset my bar quickly with it. lately only footage i've gotten was mostly huttball and my usual job is mid to grab the ball and toss it to the juggernaught sith warrior so he can score .. makes for pretty bland video. i could post up some of the score 5 times and juggle the ball while farming kills because if you score 6 times the win won't count for the daily. (annoying as hell bug).

    the channeld shot you reffer to is unload .. and only supposed to be used while Barrage is procced. (25% bonus dmg to it) as for it being heat free you're reffering to the talent terminal velocity wich vents 8 heat whenver unload or missles crit. (unload gets multiple shots in so it has more chances to proc) but it still sits on a ppm so if i just crit with a tracer missle the unload crit won't vent 8 heat. consider FULLY raidbuffed i'm close to 50% crit rate i'll probably get that 8 heat vented via tracer missle before barrage procs.

    also only reason to consider using unload w/o barrage and target not having 5 stack armor debuff from tracer missle is to just snare it. otherwise the unload is wasted. (i've been guilty of firing railshot w/o a 5 stack of tracerlock due to target being low on health and wanting a quick hit to score right after my heatseekers hit. makes a nice 1-2 punch.
    Last edited by Arteous; 2012-01-02 at 02:50 PM.

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    i'll just ignore the agent remark, because its obvious you dont really know how they work

    hes not keyboard turning, its the stupid auto face that this game has. basically removes any positioning skill discrepancies between two players.


    must be nice having endgame gear already, and blowing up lvl 10s :P
    they really need to split the BGs into brackets. at the very least 10-30 and 31-50

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    its nice to see sandbags still used as cover in scifi space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kensai666 View Post
    I got a level 39 Assassin on Niman (EU) so yes I've played it but not to level 50. I've unsubscribed.

    My point was that this guy is essentially standing like a turret, chain casting a few abilities, and winning. WoW PvP failed as an e-sport and as a competitive game (despite having ladders for both BGs and arena while swtor has neithe) and it's still fifty times more complex than this and has a much higher skill cap. I don't see any jump shots, no kiting, no crowd control/interrupt rotations on healers while you nuke a DPS, etc. I see nothing that even looks entertaining from viewer's perspective.

    When you see a guy who plays like this 'Bounty Hunter' in WoW it's 100% always a bot. A character that walks like a zombie towards enemies then stops and turrets spells standing dead still as long as possible. It's hilarious really.

    But hey, if you enjoy it, keep it up then
    do u remember pvp in vanilla? where rogues can kill u naked because eviscerate hit the same with or without gear? or the mages cc'ing u for ages? just give time to bioware. u really cant compare a company with 7 years of experience in the MMO market with one with 2 or 3 weeks of experience. I have faith in bioware, just give him some time to do great things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katsumo View Post
    do u remember pvp in vanilla? where rogues can kill u naked because eviscerate hit the same with or without gear? or the mages cc'ing u for ages? just give time to bioware. u really cant compare a company with 7 years of experience in the MMO market with one with 2 or 3 weeks of experience. I have faith in bioware, just give him some time to do great things.
    Can you ppl PLEASE stop comparing ToR with Vanilla WoW?
    Vanilla was 7 years ago and ToR is NOT competing with Vanilla. ToR is competing with CATA, players dont give a damn about what happened 7 years ago.
    If they feel that the combat system is a fail NOW, they wont be playing for 7 years waiting the game to get to the 'CATA LEVEL'.
    By doing this comparison you look STUPID.

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