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    No Legendary Staff & Dps

    Does the Legendary Staff make up too much dps for Warlocks ( Casters ) ?
    Do you feel like the Legendary Staff is a must have to equal melee Dps on fights ?
    Why don't warlocks ( Casters ) have a weapon equal to the Legendary Staff in DS ?
    Is the base damage from locks based off what the Legendary Staff can add to Damage/Dps ?
    Is the Legendary Staff a huge plus while doing Heroic Mode fights in DS ?
    Why do Locks have lower damage than melee classes without a Legendary Staff ?
    Is Warlock Dps really low in DS without a Legendary Staff ?
    Did they balance dps around having the Legendary Staff ?
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    Maybe all my Questions have no meaning and i'm blowing smoke ?
    Do Warlocks need a buff so they can equal melee dps without a having Legendary Staff ?
    Last edited by Blinus; 2012-01-11 at 10:08 AM.

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    They don't need a buff to equal melee without a legendary because then they will dominate with the legendary. If you want to do the best DPS go get a legendary.

    I'd rather see legendary's have more raid buff things next expansion (like Atiesh or the DW Staff) as opposed to over powered self buffs. It'd make legendaries less required for huge personal DPS gains and instead required for an overall raid DPS gain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorfie View Post
    They don't need a buff to equal melee without a legendary because then they will dominate with the legendary. If you want to do the best DPS go get a legendary.
    you mean rogues, as opposed to the staff that every casting class could use.

    I'd rather see legendary's have more raid buff things next expansion (like Atiesh or the DW Staff) as opposed to over powered self buffs. It'd make legendaries less required for huge personal DPS gains and instead required for an overall raid DPS gain.
    I like this idea though, i would also make legendaries much harder / rarer to obtain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blinus View Post
    Warlocks ( Casters )
    Are... are there melee warlocks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidgazer View Post
    Are... are there melee warlocks?
    God help us, they're learning!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidgazer View Post
    Are... are there melee warlocks?
    well, we were able to give our weapon an on hit fire damage proc.

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    No, you don't need the Legendary staff to do competitive dps, there are weapons inside Dragon Soul that come close to the stats on the staff if not surpass it (especially true on heroic), mainly refering to Lightning Rod/Lightning Rod Heroic. The Lightning Rod staff gives a lot more haste and hit as well as spell power which might be worth more than the legendary in certain places (eliminating RNG-spikes from procs in your dps, good for say Spine of Deathwing HC).

    Considering the heroic weapons, in particular, gives more stats than the Legendary staff itself the gap between DTR and other DS HC weapons is getting smaller and smaller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kosuko View Post
    well, we were able to give our weapon an on hit fire damage proc.
    Fire Stone FTW! ohh wait.... Most people may not know what you are talking about. It used to do a lot of damage in vanilla /sarcasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calabera View Post
    Fire Stone FTW! ohh wait.... Most people may not know what you are talking about. It used to do a lot of damage in vanilla /sarcasm.
    Still have one saved in my bank

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    omg firestones how could I forget about those,
    what was the name of the other stone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retnar View Post
    omg firestones how could I forget about those,
    what was the name of the other stone?

    Spellstone, IIRC.


    then they changed them to buff direct fire damage (Firestone) or DOT damage (Spellstone)
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    <- only playing since wrath, so i just remember the one buffing my dot dmg (affli lock twink^^)

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    Spellstone was used regardless.

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    no legendary isn't required...I can still pull 38-40k without it...maybe not quite as much as some of our melee but I don't feel like I'm weighing our group down without it

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    Still got both the Spellstone and the Firestone in the bank.

    On topic, the legendary isn't needed for good dps. I managed to outdps a demo lock who had the staff on Zon'ozz in the LFR earlier. 2.5k more dps than him. :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerraw View Post
    Still got both the Spellstone and the Firestone in the bank.
    I only have the Spellstone. Didn't have a Firestone made when they got rid of them Apparently it is still linked to having a charge, because I can't throw it in Void Storage :x

    And to OP. I doubt they balanced the game to every caster having the staff. Number of casters w/o staff >>>>>>>>>>>>x50 Number of caster w/ staff.

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    I only have a spellstone too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redmage View Post
    you mean rogues, as opposed to the staff that every casting class could use.



    I like this idea though, i would also make legendaries much harder / rarer to obtain.
    I agree, it should take much longer than 5 months for a 10 man to get their first legendary

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    but it should take longer for 25mans to get one at least than it did for dw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calabera View Post
    Fire Stone FTW! ohh wait.... Most people may not know what you are talking about. It used to do a lot of damage in vanilla /sarcasm.
    still have one in my bag xD
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    I literally die every time i see people using literally wrong.

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