Like America really cares? We got our iPhone 4s, sounds like a personal problem.
Like America really cares? We got our iPhone 4s, sounds like a personal problem.
China do not have free education and health care like US and many European countries do, if you want to go to school, you need money, if that child needed to go to work in the first place, very likely if he isn't working he wouldn't be able to go to school either, just starve. Now look at China on the world map, and population, it is NOT feasable to suddenly demand free education and such, it just isn't possible. China is developING, once it is fully developed it will start looking at these problems, but they need to get there first.
Implying laws for minimum wage is risk in China, many companies outsource to China due to it is cheap. If suddenly they put the price up, companies will start comparing, China, India, and other possibilities to get the best deal, chances are China will actually lose money if they imply a minimum wage law.
And be fair, the companies are not there to think for China's future, they are there to think for their company's future, which I totally agree, as they have their shareholders to answer to, it is their job, and their very own future depends on it. It is human nature to look after yourself first, and it is also nature for a company to look at its own profit figures (afterall they are not charity, they are there to make money), if you think companies should care about those ethics more than profits you are lying to yourself.
Already happened, http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireSto...9#.TwudYPkVc9u
Greece now see pedophilia as a disability and they get a higher disability pay than someone who did an organ transplant.
So pretty much they are paid to be a pedophile.
Yes, they should care about those ethics more than profits. Underage labour has absolutely no place no matter where it happens. That's why there are laws protecting minors from that kind of abuse, einstein. Laws are to be followed.
That's not supporting pedophilia.Already happened, http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireSto...9#.TwudYPkVc9u
Greece now see pedophilia as a disability and they get a higher disability pay than someone who did an organ transplant.
So pretty much they are paid to be a pedophile.
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Was completely ignored, funny. I'm not in support of child labor in any way but there is also a truth that I don't live in this situation. I've gone through many hardships, mostly when I was a child, that were a result of being very poor. Because of that experience I could only imagine how much worse it would have been in a setting like some countries are, neither can most of you. You can't sit here rather you feel one way or the other and say with any credibility about how this and that is wrong. I'll remind you that when it comes down to it and it's either survive or perish, most will choose to act out of self preservation and do what they can.
The number of people who seem to think they're doing the right thing by supporting child labor is humorous. You can buy your iPhones all you want; I would too, but don't pretend you're doing anyone any favors.
Funny. That didn't happen when slavery ended. That didn't happen when child labour in the western world ended. That didn't happen after people started having protection from labour exploitation after the industrial revolution. And people have been using your argument over all that time. Besides, are you seriously implying that prohibiting those companies from exploiting children that work almost for free and giving those jobs to decently paid adults...there would be less jobs instead of more?At this current economy climate, if they do that, there will be A LOT more companies folding and unemplyment rate would sky rocket.
Dear sir, would you kindly stop saying such retarded bullshit?
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Last edited by Dacien; 2012-01-15 at 12:50 AM.
We (the American citizens) were taught for the past 40 to 50 years that factory jobs are terrible ways to make a living only fit for the uneducated who will have no hope of social mobility. So now instead of something like a 2.5% or so unemployment rate thanks to a thriving manufacturing industry, we shipped all those jobs overseas and have somewhere around a hundred thousand unemployed/under-empoyed people with college degrees who could not even get a full-time job a WalMart or McDonalds because the degree makes them over-qualified.
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I am sorry, I will go back and check, I didn't know when those happened we were also at a global economy recession at the time which you should thanks God when you are actually employed.
If companies are folding, yes there will be less jobs.
Jobs don't appear out of no where, if a company is closing down, expect a fair number of people start going on benefits.
Disgusting.
FairTrade, that's what a huge company as Apple should aim at, just like Ben & Jerry's.
as far as I know, no global economy recession was caused by child labourI am sorry, I will go back and check, I didn't know when those happened we were also at a global economy recession at the time which you should thanks God when you are actually employed.
absence of child labour is not the reason they are folding. Actually, it's the exact opposite. Because everyone buys from china, law-abiding companies don't sell as much. How the hell is that right, either ethically or economically?If companies are folding, yes there will be less jobs.
In the factory point of view:
underage = cheaper > lower wages/salary > less company expenditure > assuming on same revenue figure, lower expenditure = more profit > more likely to survive.
In outsourcing company point of view:
lower manufacturing cost (especially early in the product life cycle since initial manufacturing cost are high and your aim is to bring them down as low and as quickly as possible) > higher margin > higher retain profit > more retained profit for future research and development for next product.
DERP indeed.