Soccer - why is there always fighting & riots?

[Maleren]

http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/01/world/...html?hpt=hp_c1


It's like this all over the world. Soccer games end up being 'riot' games. I don't understand why. Are people really that immature that they can't handle when their favorite team loses or something? I know this happens in other sports too but it's mostly in soccer it seems like. I don't wish to offend anyone, I'm not a soccer fan and am not choosing teams (don't really know any). I'm a baseball fan. (Yes, I know there are idiots in baseball too). I just wish these people would grow up and stop acting like spoiled children. Some people in this world have some serious anger issues.

(Sorry, rant over) Please forgive.

[namelessone]

I guess because here in North America our sports events are very localized. We have NHL for example, that consists only of north american teams playing in north american cities. Soccer transcends borders, it's a lot more global. Clash of cultures and everything that comes with it.

[IMonstrousI]

Its a foreign thing and its the most popular sport in the world so they take it pretty serious unlike the United States

[Yavannie]

I guess because here in North America our sports events are very localized. We have NHL for example, that consists only of north american teams playing in north american cities. Soccer transcends borders, it's a lot more global. Clash of cultures and everything that comes with it.

But the incident in the OP was between rivaling teams in the same country, as are most football related brawls. In fact, the international games are usually some of the most friendly. Rivalry between clubs in the same country is at the heart of the problem. It's like gang wars.

[Maleren]

But the incident in the OP was between rivaling teams in the same country, as are most football related brawls. In fact, the international games are usually some of the most friendly. Rivalry between clubs in the same country is at the heart of the problem. It's like gang wars.

I see your point. I really wish that we could have sports all over the world with no violence. It's wishful thinking I know but it would be nice.

[Deleted]

The violence has NOTHING at all to do with soccer. Most soccer 'hooligans' are there just for the violence, and barely know anything about the game itself...
It's a sick world out there.

[koodledrum]

Oh please, don't come with that sort of title - rioting in football is rare, for example Scotland has 4 leagues in the senior game, we will have (weather permitting) 21 matches being played through those leagues and there will be zero riots or fights, same goes for England which will host closer to 50+ league games in the senior game. While it's rare it CAN happen, but that goes for any sport anywhere in the world - or do i need to point towards Vancouver last year after the Stanley Cup as an example of where a generally mundane happening will kick off a riot.

[Photek]

Most of the riots on Football are always localized on the same countries. They are like animals u.u

[Deleted]

I've never understood why it was called Soccer, and American Football is called Football. Surely American Football should be called Handegg?

Infracted. Read the rules.

[AceofHarts]

I've never understood why it was called Soccer, and American Football is called Football. Surely American Football should be called Handegg?

because we haven't heard this one before...10,000,000,000,000,000 times. get new material if you are going to troll.

personally even in the North America there is riots from time to time, like when Vancouver lost the cup last year.

[Deleted]

So many yank soccer fans in this thread

[Deleted]

1. Soccer is the mostplayed sport in the entire world. It's popular everywhere - asia, europe, africa, south/mid america - less popular in the USA but gaining in popularity aswell.
2. Soccers is a sport for the little people. There's nothing exclusive about it, it is a team based sport where teams are tied to geographic locations (cities), as such they have large fanbases comprimised from all layers of society who all attend weekly games.
3. Soccer is played with absurd amounts of supporters. I dont think there is any other sport where topgames attract up to 100k live spectators.
4. Soccer (just like most other teambased sports) is to some extent an equivalent of warfare. It's a showdown of tactical expertise, physical prowness, one team against one other team, one winner, one loser.
5. People are aggressive intollerant pigs

=> riots & fighting during soccer games

[Deleted]

There are not "always " riots - they are extremely rare, especially when you consider it is the most popular sport in the world.

[Deleted]

Oh please, don't come with that sort of title - rioting in football is rare, for example Scotland has 4 leagues in the senior game, we will have (weather permitting) 21 matches being played through those leagues and there will be zero riots or fights, same goes for England which will host closer to 50+ league games in the senior game. While it's rare it CAN happen, but that goes for any sport anywhere in the world - or do i need to point towards Vancouver last year after the Stanley Cup as an example of where a generally mundane happening will kick off a riot.

As you most likely know the only reason there are zero riots or fights in scotland or england is because they are made impossible. The fans are kept seperated before the game (the visiting fans travel by police-escorted busses to the stadium), during the game (kept in fenced off boxes and kept in check by police & stewards), and after the game (put directly back onto the buss and driven back under police-escort to their own town/city).

If these securty measurements weren't in place, or would fail dramatically, pretty much every single game in GB would end in violence, and people would die in topgames.

Dont pretend like the difference between GB and what happened in egypt is anything else than working security vs failing security.

[Deleted]

after the game (put directly back onto the buss and driven back under police-escort to their own town/city).

That is certainly not the case for the majority of fans.

[Deleted]

As you most likely know the only reason there are zero riots or fights in scotland or england is because they are made impossible. The fans are kept seperated before the game (the visiting fans travel by police-escorted busses to the stadium), during the game (kept in fenced off boxes and kept in check by police & stewards), and after the game (put directly back onto the buss and driven back under police-escort to their own town/city).

If these securty measurements weren't in place, or would fail dramatically, pretty much every single game in GB would end in violence, and people would die in topgames.

Dont pretend like the difference between GB and what happened in egypt is anything else than working security vs failing security.

Thats not entirely true, I got caught up in a mini riot outside Ibrox a few years ago. I was just walking past going to a pub!

All sports have riots. How about the Oakland riots for NFL? The Vancouver riots for NHL? Hell even the Australian tennis open had a riot!

[Raunchy]

I bet you it all starts when some troll shouts "soccer sucks". Then all hell breaks lose.

[Primernova]

It's an insanely boring game and I think fans start to focus on eachother instead of the game as the hours tick away.

As I like to say, time is a serious bitch.

Was it 73 fucking people that died yesterday, in the riots? How can soccer fans really justify that?

[Deleted]

You want to know what happens when security measurements fail during european games?

People die.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBB9iS9n6XI

[Animaneth]

http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/01/world/...html?hpt=hp_c1


It's like this all over the world. Soccer games end up being 'riot' games. I don't understand why. Are people really that immature that they can't handle when their favorite team loses or something? I know this happens in other sports too but it's mostly in soccer it seems like. I don't wish to offend anyone, I'm not a soccer fan and am not choosing teams (don't really know any). I'm a baseball fan. (Yes, I know there are idiots in baseball too). I just wish these people would grow up and stop acting like spoiled children. Some people in this world have some serious anger issues.

(Sorry, rant over) Please forgive.

you are wrong. the sport has nothing to do with it. The problem is the people that take their feelings toward a team like it was some kind of religion and do stupid things in the name of it. Also, I'm from Argentina, soccer here is the biggest sport, the one that moves the biggest ammount of money, we have our share of violence when fans of teams end up fighting, we have our share of deaths for this, but besides the stupid people I named before, the other big reason is that soccer matches end up being frustration releasing valves (I dont know if that is properly expressed in english) what I mean is, perfectly "normal" people that behaves correctly in a social enviroment, mutates when they go to the stadiums. People that rarely insult someone, when in a stadium, they spent the whole 90 minutes a match lasts insulting rivals, or even worse aim their anger and hate towards the referee... it's beyond stupid.

So TL;DR: it's not related to team loses exclusively. Also fanatics, they are everywhere and they do not limit themselves to soccer.