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    Quote Originally Posted by Erenax View Post
    Yeah, the whole Big Bird angle wasn't going to sway voters for Obama in the first place, and it was kind of bad taste to put that in the ad in the first place imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reeve View Post
    Yeah, the whole Big Bird angle wasn't going to sway voters for Obama in the first place, and it was kind of bad taste to put that in the ad in the first place imo.
    Yet Romney can bullshit lie in multiple ads. God forbid President Obama try and call bull shit without some Independents crying. People wonder why he cannot call Romney on his bull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    Yet Romney can bullshit lie in multiple ads. God forbid President Obama try and call bull shit without some Independents crying. People wonder why he cannot call Romney on his bull.

    Anyone know how to become a Canadian? America is going to be a third world country pretty soon.
    Oh come on. I've been harping on Romney's bullshit at every turn. You can bet I'm going to give Obama shit when he pulls this garbage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    Yet Romney can bullshit lie in multiple ads. God forbid President Obama try and call bull shit without some Independents crying. People wonder why he cannot call Romney on his bull.
    People need to stop acting like either candidate is a bastion of truth. Romney has lied and Obama has lied. Either one pointing the finger at the other as if they are above it is comical at best.

    Obama is basically getting called out for this reason.

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    And the "if he can lie we can lie!" argument is the absolute worst.

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    Both sides do it. Let's all agree to let the bullshit go uncalled as we sit on the sidelines and pat ourselves on the back for being so impartial and above the fray, even as we piss and moan incessantly about how worried we are about the future of the country.

  7. #10307
    http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/ob...atrina-relief/

    Apparently it is okay for obama to call out the Bush administration for ignoring Louisiana when a hurricane hits......and then he does the exact same thing. If the numbers are correct , he is actually making Louisiana pay more to get aid. I am sure more news of this will be forthcoming.

  8. #10308
    How much damage has Isaac caused in comparison?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    How much damage has Isaac caused in comparison?
    So your level of help is based on level of damage? Bush let Louisiana use federal money to pay for the 10% stafford act matching. Obama is making Louisiana pay the normal 25% ....but you are okay with this, because, even though there was a lot of devastation, it was not on Katrina's level.....or am I wrong with your implication?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobdoletoo View Post
    So your level of help is based on level of damage? Bush let Louisiana use federal money to pay for the 10% stafford act matching. Obama is making Louisiana pay the normal 25% ....but you are okay with this, because, even though there was a lot of devastation, it was not on Katrina's level.....or am I wrong with your implication?
    Well yes. If the damage is small enough that the state is capable of paying the 25% matching, then they should. That requirement should only be waved when the damage is so much that the state has no chance of meeting that 25% matching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobdoletoo View Post
    So your level of help is based on level of damage? Bush let Louisiana use federal money to pay for the 10% stafford act matching. Obama is making Louisiana pay the normal 25% ....but you are okay with this, because, even though there was a lot of devastation, it was not on Katrina's level.....or am I wrong with your implication?
    Are you trying to blame the outrage game when I suggest that the aid package a state gets might be based on their need?
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    Quote Originally Posted by obdigore View Post
    Well yes. If the damage is small enough that the state is capable of paying the 25% matching, then they should. That requirement should only be waved when the damage is so much that the state has no chance of meeting that 25% matching.
    “What’s happening down in New Orleans?” Obama shouted during the speech, which was recorded at the Virginia university in June of 2007. “Where’s your dollar? Where’s your Stafford Act Money? Makes no sense! It tells me, the people down in New Orleans, they don’t care about as much!”

    The Stafford Act requires states and localities to add their own money to federal funds disbursed for rebuilding after disasters. The amount of required matching funds can vary up to 25 percent, under the law.

    According to Louisiana Republican Rep. Steve Scalise, the president has responded to the August landfall of Hurricane Isaac, which devastated several parishes in Louisiana, by requiring local governments to provide the maximum allowable 25 percent matching funds to receive their federal aid, instead of the 10 percent match that served as the Bush administration’s guideline in the aftermath of Katrina.


    So the state wants help. But obama doesn't want them to get the same help as before. And you say, the current President can decide they pay the maximum 25% after he made a huge deal about the same state having to pay 10%, which--when he made the speech about it--was already being paid by the federal government. And you are okay with a President who has a double standard for when he is running for office, and when he is in office?

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    I'm not sure why you think we're not following. Why don't you actually address what we said, which is that extreme events like Katrina warrant different treatment than more run of the mill disasters.
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  14. #10314
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Are you trying to blame the outrage game when I suggest that the aid package a state gets might be based on their need?
    what do you mean blame the outrage game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    I'm not sure why you think we're not following. Why don't you actually address what we said, which is that extreme events like Katrina warrant different treatment than more run of the mill disasters.
    So hurricanes are run of the mill disasters?

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    what do you mean blame the outrage game?
    Play not blame, my bad.
    So hurricanes are run of the mill disasters?
    Oh get the hell out if you're going to be like this. You damn well know what I'm saying.
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  16. #10316
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Play not blame, my bad.

    Oh get the hell out if you're going to be like this. You damn well know what I'm saying.
    No, I don't. You think there are levels to disasters. You think funding is based on these levels. You said katrina was extreme. So what level is Isaac?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobdoletoo View Post
    No, I don't. You think there are levels to disasters. You think funding is based on these levels. You said katrina was extreme. So what level is Isaac?
    So you think all natural disasters cause equal amounts of damage and must all receive the same level of aid?
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  18. #10318
    Quote Originally Posted by Bobdoletoo View Post
    “What’s happening down in New Orleans?” Obama shouted during the speech, which was recorded at the Virginia university in June of 2007. “Where’s your dollar? Where’s your Stafford Act Money? Makes no sense! It tells me, the people down in New Orleans, they don’t care about as much!”

    The Stafford Act requires states and localities to add their own money to federal funds disbursed for rebuilding after disasters. The amount of required matching funds can vary up to 25 percent, under the law.

    According to Louisiana Republican Rep. Steve Scalise, the president has responded to the August landfall of Hurricane Isaac, which devastated several parishes in Louisiana, by requiring local governments to provide the maximum allowable 25 percent matching funds to receive their federal aid, instead of the 10 percent match that served as the Bush administration’s guideline in the aftermath of Katrina.


    So the state wants help. But obama doesn't want them to get the same help as before. And you say, the current President can decide they pay the maximum 25% after he made a huge deal about the same state having to pay 10%, which--when he made the speech about it--was already being paid by the federal government. And you are okay with a President who has a double standard for when he is running for office, and when he is in office?
    Isaac is estimated at 1.5 Billion in damages.
    http://money.cnn.com/2012/08/29/news...tes/index.html

    Hurricaine Katrina is over 125 Billion in damages
    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money...e_x.htm?csp=34

    So the difference is that Isaac caused about 1.25% the damage of Katrina.

  19. #10319
    Quote Originally Posted by obdigore View Post
    isaac is estimated at 1.5 billion in damages.
    http://money.cnn.com/2012/08/29/news...tes/index.html

    hurricaine katrina is over 125 billion in damages
    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money...e_x.htm?csp=34

    so the difference is that isaac caused about 1.25% the damage of katrina.
    thanks for nothing obama
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  20. #10320
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    thanks for nothing obama
    That damn obama, not giving out free money to the states. SUPPORT STATES RIGHTS TO FREE MONEY, VOTE GOP!

    Wait... what is going on in here?

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