GW2 won't have trouble getting players, it might have trouble stealing players from wow but that's a different topic. Since you are assuming most mmo gamers play WoW.
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Okay, so I checked wowprogress.com. It tells me only 510,000 characters have killed the first boss in the current tier of raiding. That includes US, EU, Oceanic, and a few other server groups.
I think it's safe to say that approximately 10% of players in WOW raid.
Of course that doesn't include LFR raids, but the percentage appears to be the same even back before LFR came out.
As a sort of statisically weak extrapolation, I think it's somewhat safe to suggest that GW2 won't "fail" due to lack of raiding, or due people's concerns that "WTF you can't have a succesful MMOPRG without raiding, noob!" since 9+ million people pay (and have paid) for WOW without raiding.
That's fine if its before LFR came out then you have a point, but LFR is out and you still don't have an accurate number of how many WoW players raid now.Of course that doesn't include LFR raids, but the percentage appears to be the same even back before LFR came out.
Also, when a giant boss appears and it requires multiple people to kill = a raid, just because its not instance doesn't mean it is not a raid. It means it's not a typical WoW raid but its still a raid.
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Personal opinion =/= fact. You can probably find 10 million players just spread out in other mmo'sAnd yes, I do assume most MMORPG players play WOW.
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If you add up all the other MMORPGs, they might just barely add up to 10 million. I think it's safe to say that approximately half of the MMORPG market plays WOW.
Quite intrigued about The Secret World. The fact that it is made by Tornquist is very exciting in itself as it's almost a guarantee that it will be something thought out and audacious in its approach. I saw some footage and I noticed a very humorous undertone, which is great in my books. The environment reminds me of a very old adventure game called "Hollywood Monsters". The only uncertainty that I am yet to answer is whether this is going to be a pure Sandbox or more of a Theme-park with some sandbox elements.
I don't think you want to be a highly anticipated game. It is kind of like being on the cover of Madden, the kiss of death.
@Ghostcrawler:Some advice: [My pet issue] is why there were sub losses is one of the weaker arguments players use. Players don't have that data.
As far as we have seen, Arenanet has given us almost every single feature in full detail when they are able to, which is something almost no other company has done before. ToR didnt have that much coverage on its features. And I am not talking about inside sources mind you, I am talking about public statements about their plans for the game, the only thing that isn't mentioned is covered by the NDA, which for the most part is nonexistent aside from being a piece of paper.
On top of this, I really dont think GW2 has that much gype given to it outside of the MMO community, only a handful of people even know of it, and thats only a fraction of the MMO community. I cant tell you how many people I talk to who didn't even know a sequel to Guild Wars was being made, and thought it was going to be the same as the first one.
The kiss of death only holds true when you know little about the game. As for the people addictively following the game's development, there isn't much we DON'T know about this game, aside from first hand testing.
Oh, and one more thing:
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Yeah, I don't see how widespread anticipation can be considered a bad thing. Yes, some MMORPGs that have had widespread anticipation have flopped. Some have done fairly well, but a few have actually lived up to the hype.
It's not like the lack of success in those MMORPGs that didn't do as well is because they got too many followers prior to launch.
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http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...Eat-the-CarrotConcerns About the Content's Nature
In terms of the the nature of the content, players are unsure whether Guild Wars 2 will cater to certain types of players, in particular to hardcore raiders due to an apparent lack of anything that has similar characteristics to raids (i.e. challenging, instanced encounters designed for premade groups of more than five players).
The answer to this is quite straightforward, and requires these players to define what specific qualities they need in the game in order for them to enjoy it. Dynamic events and explorable mode dungeons will both fulfil certain combinations of the qualities offered by raids, but not all of them.
For example, if raiding appeals to you because of the large number of players involved, or because of the "epic" feel of fighting massive bosses, then dynamic events are exactly what you want. Conversely, if raiding appeals to you because of the challenge—the difficulty of the encounters and the requirements of preparation and teamwork—then explorable mode dungeons will provide you with these things.
If however you absolutely must have all of these characteristics within a single type of content, then Guild Wars 2 most likely will not be for you, at least in this respect.
I hope pandaland turns into a puddle of horse shit.
OH wait it's already a puddle of horse shit. Hopefully blizzard learns from guild wars 2 and tries to be new and innovative.
I already warned against game bashing in this thread, please don't do it. Infracted. -Edge
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And how is it already a puddle of horse shit? You're comparing and expansion that hasn't come out yet, to a new game, that also hasn't come out yet. That makes no sense man...
If we were talking about American politics, or maybe religion or something, I can see people getting worked up and frothing at the mouth... but these are just 2 video games dude.
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I see fanboys in these threads and I ain't afraid to show it, show it, show it, show it...
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Ps: I also voted GW2 cause I decided to make it my next thing after WoW, but I managed to do so, through here, only cause I have blocked any WoW/SWTOR/Rift-related content.
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