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    Ressing in arena (blue post)

    Reading the blue's response to the EU thread (which I can't respond to) I realized something.

    The blue post only accentuated that Blizzard is not really in touch with the game.

    The problem isn't the ability to rez in arenas. Its that a single class can bring enough crowd control to be able to even get off a rez in the first place. This has always been a problem and one that they said they would address by reducing the CC arms race.

    Lo and behold they did the exact opposite and exacerbated the problem even more. CC in PvP needs to be GREATLY reduced. Single classes should not be able to control others for 16+ seconds. This problem is even more notable in 3v3's where heavy control comps have obvious advantages showcased in the highest brackets of play.
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    It's not a matter of crowd control. If you really can't maintain combat w/a target for a period of 15 seconds which allows them to get out of combat as well as position themselves to cast a 9-10 second res, you're not playing well. End of story.
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    It's not a matter of crowd control. If you really can't maintain combat w/a target for a period of 15 seconds which allows them to get out of combat as well as position themselves to cast a 9-10 second res, you're not playing well. End of story.

    i love this

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    It happened to me once, I pretty much raged at myself for failing so hard =)

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    I like how the OP (not this OP but the one from the blue post) was a DK with a PET. And how he managed to not kill a resto druid.

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    The fault lies with the person letting the rez get off, always.
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    Blame Blizzard as much as you want...

    But even I know that letting your opponent get away with a clear resurrection spell is just plain bad.
    And I am not even an active arena player...

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    My assumption is that he rooted the DK downstairs on Blades Edge, then cycloned him from upstairs, and ressed his partner in the middle of the pathway. If he was frost, then the resser was out of LOS for howling blast. If he was unholy, then he's pretty stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skoorb View Post
    It's not a matter of crowd control. If you really can't maintain combat w/a target for a period of 15 seconds which allows them to get out of combat as well as position themselves to cast a 9-10 second res, you're not playing well. End of story.
    very much this, i once let a enemy get a res off once, i felt so ashamed... i almost nearly uninstalled

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    Once i rezzed my fallen comrade in arena. It was so glorious (he was killed almost instant by a penance in WoTLK but yeah...).
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    No matter what the map, control, anything... every class has a way to get the opponent into combat in a 15 second time frame. DKs have DG, CoI, Mind Freeze, Strang, Ghoul Stun, AMS, etcetcetc. Not to mention trinket. The OP had many ways to keep his opponent in combat, and he simply got outplayed. Period.

    Quote Originally Posted by Malgru View Post
    My assumption is that he rooted the DK downstairs on Blades Edge, then cycloned him from upstairs, and ressed his partner in the middle of the pathway. If he was frost, then the resser was out of LOS for howling blast. If he was unholy, then he's pretty stupid.
    Regardless of his spec, he has multiple ranged attacks, and even if he was LoS'd, he has the Ghoul to summon, no matter what spec. It has a CD, sure, but considering it was 1v1 against a druid, I would assume it was up. In reference to your scenario, the Druid would be in combat upon the Cyclone cast. Cyclone has a maximum 6 second duration. DK could (or, to be fair, could not) have a trinket up...there's many things he could have done. He failed. It's on the DK, not Blizz. But it's the cool thing to blame Blizz, so it's got to be their fault! Getting tired of it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malgru View Post
    My assumption is that he rooted the DK downstairs on Blades Edge, then cycloned him from upstairs, and ressed his partner in the middle of the pathway. If he was frost, then the resser was out of LOS for howling blast. If he was unholy, then he's pretty stupid.
    Even assuming this we can assume by the time the druid was back out of combat cyclone would have timed out, the deathknight then has ten or so seconds to get within a (worse case scenario, unholy with a dead pet) 20 yard range to use IT, it doesn't take nearly half that to mount up and run from the middle bottom to the top of BE arena on a mount.

    And as I said that's worst case scenario, the OP of the original clearly just has terrible situation awareness and screwed up, these kinds of plays happen all the time in the 800 bracket.

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    having these kinds of threads makes me sad because it is the reason why community managers of today have such a hard job taking form posters seriously. the amount of close to retarded statements that go along with the always same accusations "out of touch" etc make it seemingly impossible to find truth and possibly even fact backed gamefeedback in this pile of rabble.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5boTUOoJ128

    resing in arena.

    totally fine
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    Quote Originally Posted by kosechi View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5boTUOoJ128

    resing in arena.

    totally fine
    Name ending in "qt", guild name in all caps with an e-thug theme... yeah, this is why WoW will never be taken seriously as an eSport.
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    I also do landscaping on weekends with some mexican kid that I "hired". He's real good because he's 100% obedient to me and does everything I say while never complaining. He knows that I am the man in the relationship and is completely submissive towards me as he should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    Name ending in "qt", guild name in all caps with an e-thug theme... yeah, this is why WoW will never be taken seriously as an eSport.
    They are the pinnacle of the WoW PvP community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    Name ending in "qt", guild name in all caps with an e-thug theme... yeah, this is why WoW will never be taken seriously as an eSport.
    the irony of my post was lost on you.

    i'm sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larynx View Post
    They are the pinnacle of the WoW PvP community.
    I know, it's sad :-/

    Sometimes I just wanna show this to, like, Boxer or Flash or Jaedong, or even MvP to see how they'd react.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Cailan Ebonheart View Post
    I also do landscaping on weekends with some mexican kid that I "hired". He's real good because he's 100% obedient to me and does everything I say while never complaining. He knows that I am the man in the relationship and is completely submissive towards me as he should be.
    Quote Originally Posted by SUH View Post
    Crissi the goddess of MMO, if i may. ./bow

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    I'm guessing the restodruid cycloned dk to get him to waste trinket like a retard and then just rooted him far away and just positioned himself in a good position to get the ress. The DK in that thread was just horrible, especially if it was a 1v1.

    We recently got a ress as Shatterplay w/ Paladin against an RLS. Killed their rogue but their lock got a cross-kill on our SP. Played with them for around 10minutes or so as a 2v2, pulled them both to their box @ Dalaran Arena (I was doing heavy damage on their Shaman so Warlock had to peel) both of them had trinkets used, Shaman used it for a Deep and the Warlock on a Poly. Then I just Ringed around the box when we were behind it, novaed both and our paladin got the ress on our SP who was dead@ the stairs. Wrathful Gladiator Warlock so no 1500 baddies atleast.

    It can happen in a 2v2 if they're not expecting it too much and you play well. But as a 1v1... no comments.

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    let's all just take a moment to thank god or Blizzard's nutritional department for not supplying developers with enough paint chips and windex to give Warlocks a rez after they gave rogues smoke bomb.

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