1. #2441
    Stealth is actively pissing me off.

    If a projectile you threw is still flying, you press stealth, then it hits, you are removed from stealth and get the revealed debuff.

    Seriously? We don't even have opening moves like a theif why do we get the revealed debuff we can't exactly spam stealth either like dagger theives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zito View Post
    Stealth is actively pissing me off.

    If a projectile you threw is still flying, you press stealth, then it hits, you are removed from stealth and get the revealed debuff.

    Seriously? We don't even have opening moves like a theif why do we get the revealed debuff we can't exactly spam stealth either like dagger theives.
    Agreed, if the projectile is in the air when you stealth it should miss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Management View Post
    Agreed, if the projectile is in the air when you stealth it should miss.
    Or ya know just hit and not unstealth :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by zito View Post
    Or ya know just hit and not unstealth :/
    or that yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zito View Post
    Or ya know just hit and not unstealth :/
    This is normally what happens to me... unless they fired say a KB and i'm using torch... then i get interrupted and get revealed, but that's a different story... and when you stealth go back the other way, there's only like 3 skills that home in on you in this game (i believe all of which are underwater), and if you move in a direction opposite of what you were going the projectile tracking will have the shot going for the wrong area, like in GW1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meledelion View Post
    Actually shatter builds do thanks to the GM trait on the bottom traitline
    I do run a shatter build... 0/0/30/10/30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Durzlla View Post
    I do run a shatter build... 0/0/30/10/30
    ? where did this come from? :s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meledelion View Post
    ? where did this come from? :s
    If you are asking for the trait combination its GM trait that adds 1 sec and random boon when you stealth. I like that build I've used it myself, however cause of the stupid stealth mechanics I quickly dropped it.

    Also when do you guys think they will nerf the new retaliation build that just came up? Clearly they are not letting it stay if they didn't let guardians retaliation build stay...

  8. #2448
    No I was talking about his comment. I don't get why he mentioned it

    What new reta build? I only know of the old one 0/0/20/20/20. Do you have a link to it?

  9. #2449
    http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgUQNAW...ymlLLZWrPGfsBB

    Leap finishers + chaos armor + cry = 100% up time on retaliation.

    Idefender gets its own retaliation which reflects back to your foe when it transfers damage from you to him plus attacks also hitting him at the same time.

    video of the guy who made it:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V6ASnuG8uI
    Last edited by zito; 2013-01-21 at 02:30 AM.

  10. #2450
    Looks like the old one, only dif is runes. The one I saw had boon duration/healing I think.

  11. #2451
    My two cents is that I'd rather Mesmers not have Stealth at all, I don't mind the effect, I just feel if you're going to have Mesmers disappearing on the field that it should be a separate - not shared - effect with its own ruleset. Two classes sharing the same effect, but not the same mechanics, is obviously problematic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple View Post
    My two cents is that I'd rather Mesmers not have Stealth at all, I don't mind the effect, I just feel if you're going to have Mesmers disappearing on the field that it should be a separate - not shared - effect with its own ruleset. Two classes sharing the same effect, but not the same mechanics, is obviously problematic.
    What? Mesmers stealthing is a non issue, they use it to make people lose track of them (you know like an illusionist would?) where a thief uses it to perform a sneak attack so they can gain the upper hand....
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  13. #2453
    So they're actively considering making Portal shared utility across other professions.

    ....but we of course still won't have our lowest mobility in the game addressed, or any of the other issues.


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    I'm not a fan of making Portal a shared ability. I mean I'm all for making all of the professions equally viable but I do feel there should be some distinctiveness to each profession. Otherwise this will just end up being an FPS type of game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozerjun View Post
    I'm not a fan of making Portal a shared ability. I mean I'm all for making all of the professions equally viable but I do feel there should be some distinctiveness to each profession. Otherwise this will just end up being an FPS type of game.
    Well, it'll probably be shared to an extent, i doubt it'll be as strong as the actual portal...

    That being said, i hate portal, i don't want it to be put on any other profs (especially one of the profs i play other than mesmer) because then it's going to be the whole "Oh well if you wanna tPvP with us you need to bring portal!" which is stupid and kinda stops the meta from evolving... it's just not fixing the problem...
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  16. #2456
    I thought the problem of portal is that it was too strong?

    Why are they giving it to other proffesions who don't need it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by zito View Post
    I thought the problem of portal is that it was too strong?

    Why are they giving it to other proffesions who don't need it....
    Did they say they're handing it out? And portal is hardly "too strong" in the current meta where everyone runs the same sort of build yeah it is, but more times then not my team would make their little "portal the group back!" Strategy backfire by taking all the other points...
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    I am all for passing the curse of portal onto other professions. It really is a good thing, might finally see some actual mobility buffs once our OP portal is not ours anymore.

    I just hope elementalists don't get it, there is already a huge aoe nerf looming over them.

  19. #2459
    I am all for passing the curse of portal onto other professions. It really is a good thing, might finally see some actual mobility buffs once our OP portal is not ours anymore.
    We already got our mobility buff. It's every 10 seconds you have a 1/10 chance to gain swiftness.

    herp derp herp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durzlla View Post
    Did they say they're handing it out? And portal is hardly "too strong" in the current meta where everyone runs the same sort of build yeah it is, but more times then not my team would make their little "portal the group back!" Strategy backfire by taking all the other points...
    Portal cd was nerfed to 90 seconds because it was too strong. I don't have the quote on me but yea.... from the history of mesmer changes... it's pretty stupid.

  20. #2460
    Portal also has charges on it, not everyone can use it.
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